A Warning About Loyalty and your frustration with Bernie

[PurgedVoter]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NancyBlueINOklahoma (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I voted for Phil Gramm. He was a Democrat at the time. Later, without knowing who he was at the time, he did me a rather large personal favor. It cost him nothing but it helped me quite a bit.
I voted for him again. This time he had and R. by his name.
A friend of mine took me to a lecture by him and asked a simple question. The answer dropped the scales from my eyes.

So here is the point. Two of my greatest sins were voting for a Democrat, Phil Gramm and then voting for a Republican, Phil Gramm. Today I will cast a vote for Warren. I expect Biden to win and I am quite happy with that. But I would also be content if Bernie won.

I am not voting with the Bernie haters and I am not voting against the devoted followers of Bernie.

Bernie has been right, time after time. Here on this forum, we pretty much knew what was happening when Bush was given the right to invade. My party, the Democratic Party, apparently, with all the inside information and wisdom and duty to make the best decision possible, ignored the clear facts that we here on this forum had and were happy to share. Bernie saw these facts.

My criteria for voting, because of my early mistakes, is based on two things. A candidates habit of being right, and a candidates kindness. Biden wins for kindness. Bernie wins for being habitually right. Warren wins for both. Additionally, Warren is female and younger.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. We do not need another divider in the whitehouse

Biden is not a divider.

[Coventina]

2. It doesn't matter who gets elected. If they don't have an "R" the R cult will hate them.

We didn't divide the country, they did.

[stonecutter357]

3. good let's go Joe !

[beachbumbob]

4. to me its about having leadership, some one forges alliances and collaboration.

Bernie Sanders does not have that as part of his resume at all. Not in the House or in the Senate. He is not an "Uniter". This mere fact that his record shows. He loves the soapbox, he loves being the "conscience", but transferring ideology to real world action bernie does not achieve. Offering 3 sentence amendments is not legislative heroism.

Then look at what makes Bernie the MOST DESIRED CANDIDATE the GOP and Trump want to see in Nov. What do you and most of sander's supporters don;t know about bernie? That is the real problem. Believe me GOP and trump have all of that ready to be let leashed, just like in 2016. Why do you think Foxnews lay off of sanders?

[dalton99a]

6. Sanders' shtick is division and chaos.

[dalton99a]

5. Rep. Sanders voted against the war. So did 60% of Democrats in the House

He is not some kind of lone infallible prophet

[beachbumbob]

7. be the last metric I would use to filter candidates I could support

[RAB910]

8. Congressman Bernie Sanders joined 126 Democratic Congressmen in voting no

[brush]

9. Sanders as been wrong a lot too. His most glaring error is thinking...

that this country will elect a socialist. That naivete is stunning. It won't happen—especially now when there is no economic downturn.

There's also is decades of calling himself just a plain socialist ten switching to "democratic socialist" in the Nordic model when he decided to use the Democratic Part to run for president. That was a mistake in two ways. First there is a functioning Democratic Socialist Party in this country, and second, the Nordic countries are capitalist, social democracies. He should've re-labeled himself a social democrat, leaving out the toxic word "socialist".

[OKNancy]

10. I'm sorry, locking wrong forum

All posts about the primary or primary candidates must go in the Primary forum





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