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Last edited Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:54 PM - Edit history (1)
The entire primary process has been manipulated by the right wingfrom the too-early candidate declarations more than a year ahead of the actual election; to the pitted debates; to the caucus tampering and now to the inevitable vote suppression. The massive turnoutof many voters Super Tuesday was thwarted by making poll equipment unavailable.
How and why people continue to overlook the obstacles to simply voting is beyond me. Nothing is more importantnot Trumps next fiasco, or even the 400 bills on McConnells desk.
From 2000 to now weve been shocked by vote tampering and suppression; wept at fixed election outcomes only to turn our sights to the next rigged election.
Insanity still means doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
blogslut
(37,982 posts)live love laugh
(13,079 posts)Time is not on our side.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Thats too bad, because youre wrong.
live love laugh
(13,079 posts)cases in a few states. Ive contributed $$ to the cause as well.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)No one is LESS pissed at President Sociopath now. I've never been angrier in my life. I'd vote for a Yellow Dog with a D after it's name, but that's all I've ever done.
the key will be GOTV.
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stillcool
(32,626 posts)care more about one person getting elected, than about how their own frigging states are run. Why is that? Where was the vote 'thwarted'? California? Did the wrong person win?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Do you mind if the rest of us go through the motions, or are you going to stand in the way and scold us?
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)what's the point of stuff like this? I think we're all aware of voter suppression tactics. Is the solution to give up and not vote because they're not going to let us? That seems to be the point of commentary like this and it pisses me off.
live love laugh
(13,079 posts)about the situation. Im absolutely not advocating giving up. I plan to do all I can. I just dont see much of an effort to change things so that the will of the people is reflected at the polls.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)The closed eyes, the nasal breathing strips, some virus the media won't cover....
OK, that last one is a trump.
trump = to lie when it is not necessary.
Good luck, we are in this together.
live love laugh
(13,079 posts)randr
(12,409 posts)because they could not wait? Where is the proof? So far I have only seen reporting of lines in Latino districts in L.A. and Texas. All reporting said these people waited it out and subsequently voted.
You may want to check your facts and make sure you are not a victim of right wing nonsense.
live love laugh
(13,079 posts)Thats not the case. Im just posting what I see and hoping for some miracle I guessto fix it all.
randr
(12,409 posts)Imagine if we trusted our election system as much as our accounting systems.
Imagine the chaos if a large percentage of people showed up to vote.
I have had these and more questions all my long life. In the end, I have always held faith that the votes of those who bothered to show up were accurately counted and we move on.
Could the system be better? Of course!
Until enough people elect enough reps to change things they will stay the same.
Nature Man
(869 posts)we'd probably have a different situation altogether
randr
(12,409 posts)Maybe Bloomberg could invent one that works. The system he made his fortune on is not so different from what is needed.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2020, 04:13 AM - Edit history (2)
Lines are the new poll tax. I think they may exact an even steeper "price" and barrier to voting.
You might like this old 2016 post of mine
LINES need to = FINES for SOS/County
Nobody seems to have done any sort of real study, but it wouldn't surprise me if at least 1 in 10 voters who shows up to vote and is confronted with a very long line just leaves without voting.
It really upsets me when I see others condemning people who are unwilling or unable to wait. It's not a lack of dedication. No one should have to choose between getting to work on time and voting, or picking up children and voting, or getting out to socialize, or writing a paper, or getting enough sleep, or whatever. There should be NO barriers to casting a vote. None! When there are barriers, the election is neither free or fair.
live love laugh
(13,079 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)doing instead of the "insanity" of fighting to uphold our democracy by insisting on elections? Read about how to survive in an authoritarian state, learn to cut down old clothes and shop at black markets, try to erase amap of our internet identity, accept increasingly third-world healthcare as the norm, and practice looking down whenever a cop drives by?
We're a majority (!), but voter weakness and fecklessness brought us again to this point.
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Our job is to fight our conviction, rediscovering it if it's lost. Our grandparents did. No reason we each can't also except our own weakness.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)when I voted Saturday in South Carolina, though there are so many other ways for them to cheat.
clementine613
(561 posts)It's not too late for Trump to cancel it.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Stop it.