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KaryninMiami

(3,073 posts)
8. I will agree - but vote stealing in Ohio is legendary
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:32 PM
Sep 2012

That is where Wally O'Dell of Diebold as in the majority of machines used in the USA- promised to bring Ohio in for Bush - (and he did). And they did not permit media to or anyone from outside (which is illegal) to watch the tabulating. And by the way, many states are still using those very same machines. Florida has its own bullshit- just as bad.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
4. Campaigns must spend the next 2 months & millions of dollars to become President of Ohio.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:56 PM
Sep 2012

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Since when is it those two states alone? Please link something to prove your reasoning on this.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:58 PM
Sep 2012

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
6. See the link in Reply #3
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:16 PM
Sep 2012

It goes through each state and assesses Obama's odds of winning. Adding up the electoral votes of the states where Obama has at least a 70% chance of winning puts him practically over the 270 EV line. Then it discusses what paths Romney can take to make 270 EV, and Ohio and Florida are crucial to any reasonable path.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. i saw that post earlier. That's not the way I interpreted what the OP said, here's his conclusion:
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:23 PM
Sep 2012
Add in 70-80% probability - another 46 - takes us to 313 EV - but look!

Even if it is JUST IA and CO....gets him to 272!

Meaning Obama wins without OH, VA, FL or NC!


ChoppinBroccoli

(3,900 posts)
11. I Hope So
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:42 PM
Sep 2012

Obama is cleaning Rmoney's clock in Ohio. I live in Ohio and keep a close eye on the Ohio polls. As the election nears, you'll see Ohio become deeper and deeper blue. Then you have to factor in the K-suck factor (I don't think people have forgotten the crap K-suck tried to pull 2 years ago, or the fight that ensued, OR the fact that we came out and spanked his ass hard).

I really don't see any way Rmoney can win without Ohio, and there's no way he's winning Ohio.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. They'll try to steal Ohio. Voter suppression, no early voting or after hours voting.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:51 PM
Sep 2012

Rigging the machines.

They did it twice. It didn't happen in 2008, but that doesn't mean it won't happen again.

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