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Mira

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:56 PM Mar 2020

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This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #1
snopes rates this as false. not able to find any such thing in time mag issues nt msongs Mar 2020 #2
Please take down the OP SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #9
To clarify they said he never made that statement on the other hand Ivana said he does cstanleytech Mar 2020 #18
He's a very sick man. Turbineguy Mar 2020 #3
Memoirs of an American 'President'. spanone Mar 2020 #4
Admirable. dchill Mar 2020 #5
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-hitler-mein-kampf/ rickford66 Mar 2020 #6
Since people don't generally like to follow links - here's the gist of it. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #10
True but then we have this cstanleytech Mar 2020 #19
Yep, FALSE. Duppers Mar 2020 #20
welp... snopes. RockRaven Mar 2020 #7
He said he read it in college...maybe. But a friend of his said he gave Trump a copy of Hitler's Karadeniz Mar 2020 #8
It's a pity that tRUMP has never read the last chapter of the story of Hitler's life... abqtommy Mar 2020 #11
Not true... radical noodle Mar 2020 #12
The Time Magazine quote is false, but Vanity Fair's 1990 interview with Trump is TRUE. VOX Mar 2020 #13
I really can't imagine him reading anything radical noodle Mar 2020 #14
Maybe some 30 years ago, he could manage a paragraph... VOX Mar 2020 #15
Maybe they made a child's version radical noodle Mar 2020 #17
*Might be* VOX Mar 2020 #21
What he actually read was "Mein Covfefe" flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #16

Response to Mira (Original post)

msongs

(74,172 posts)
2. snopes rates this as false. not able to find any such thing in time mag issues nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:02 PM
Mar 2020

SCantiGOP

(14,758 posts)
9. Please take down the OP
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020

It is fake, which I could tell as I read it.
This is no different than a Trump twitter lie.

cstanleytech

(28,591 posts)
18. To clarify they said he never made that statement on the other hand Ivana said he does
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:06 AM
Mar 2020

own a book of Hitler's speeches and reads it in bed occasionally which given his tone and actions since he came into office I can believe.

Turbineguy

(40,207 posts)
3. He's a very sick man.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:02 PM
Mar 2020

And has been for a long time.

spanone

(142,052 posts)
4. Memoirs of an American 'President'.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:03 PM
Mar 2020

Future historians will shake their heads at this era.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
5. Admirable.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:03 PM
Mar 2020

rickford66

(6,094 posts)
6. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-hitler-mein-kampf/
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:05 PM
Mar 2020

Ms. Toad

(38,817 posts)
10. Since people don't generally like to follow links - here's the gist of it.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:13 AM
Mar 2020
Not only were we unable to locate an original source for this quote, or evidence that Time magazine even interviewed Trump in 2002, but we found no discernible record of its existence before the meme first surfaced in April 2019. Yet it’s the kind of statement that would have been quoted ad nauseum in the press had Trump said it. No such references exist.


Nor were we able to find isolated instances of Trump praising Mein Kampf or Adolf Hitler in public statements. The cadence and grammar of the passage are Trump-like (“… but I do respect him. As a leader. Tremendous respect.”), but all indications point to its being fabricated.

cstanleytech

(28,591 posts)
19. True but then we have this
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:09 AM
Mar 2020
It appears, on the other hand, that Trump did (and perhaps still does) own a collection of Hitler’s speeches that a friend presented to him as a gift. According to Vanity Fair, Ivana Trump told her lawyer that her husband kept the book near his bedside and occasionally read from it. Also according to Vanity Fair, however, Trump insisted he had never read it, nor would he.

Duppers

(28,476 posts)
20. Yep, FALSE.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:13 AM
Mar 2020

I'm sure the illiterate pos couldn't get thorough the book.

RockRaven

(19,749 posts)
7. welp... snopes.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:05 PM
Mar 2020

oh, well.

Karadeniz

(24,762 posts)
8. He said he read it in college...maybe. But a friend of his said he gave Trump a copy of Hitler's
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:13 PM
Mar 2020

Speeches, telling Trump he would enjoy it and Ivana confirmed that that book was what was on his nightstand for reading.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
11. It's a pity that tRUMP has never read the last chapter of the story of Hitler's life...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:14 AM
Mar 2020

radical noodle

(10,689 posts)
12. Not true...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:21 AM
Mar 2020

although it certainly sounds like something he might say. Still, he didn't.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
13. The Time Magazine quote is false, but Vanity Fair's 1990 interview with Trump is TRUE.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:29 AM
Mar 2020

And pretty damning. Note the signature Trump “denial” at the end.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/donald-trump-marie-brenner-ivana-divorce/amp
Vanity Fair
August 5, 2015
7 Takeaways from Vanity Fair’s 1990 Profile of Donald Trump
<snip>
Twenty-five years ago, this magazine’s Marie Brenner spent some time with Trump for an investigation into the dissolution of his marriage to Ivana Trump. In retrospect, the story has all the trappings of a perfect Trump piece: discord between reality and Trump’s claims about it, accusations of disloyalty, and triumphant highs amid a string of batted-away lows. Here are seven takeaways that still matter.
<snip>
Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.
“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

<snip>

radical noodle

(10,689 posts)
14. I really can't imagine him reading anything
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:32 AM
Mar 2020

but maybe in the past, his attention span wasn't the size of a gnat.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
15. Maybe some 30 years ago, he could manage a paragraph...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:46 AM
Mar 2020

Before picking up the TV remote again, after a (very) short break.

radical noodle

(10,689 posts)
17. Maybe they made a child's version
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:57 AM
Mar 2020

of the book with large illustrations? He might be able to follow along with that.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
21. *Might be*
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:14 AM
Mar 2020

If I were a betting man, I’d put everything on *might not*.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
16. What he actually read was "Mein Covfefe"
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:55 AM
Mar 2020

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