National Nurses president reads a statement by a quarantined

[dewsgirl]

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nurse. This is just one instance, I can't imagine how many more there are out there.

[keithbvadu2]

1. Pence will pray for you.

[Thomas Hurt]

3. More likely he would just say he was and not do it.

[Cousin Dupree]

2. I'm floored. This is how they treat health professionals who put their lives on the line?????!!!!!

[LAS14]

4. K & R - everyone should watch this

[dewsgirl]

5. Yes. Frightening implications here.

[volstork]

6. As a physician,

I find this completely horrifying. This is what happens when complete incompetents are in charge of the systems that were specifically designed to keep the population of the nation safe.

I hope the response to this public health crisis-- and make no mistake, it is a rapidly unfolding crisis-- puts the trump "administration" in the ground.

[dewsgirl]

8. I am well aware of what's coming, the one thing we

can find comfort in, will be the destruction of Trump.
I wish I had something more positive to say here.😔

[C Moon]

91. If we're allowed to vote. The GOP is conniving and I have NO doubt that they are

going to use this virus to their own advantage--in any way possible. I think, including either cancelling the election or frightening people into not voting; AND price gouging a vaccine if it's created.

[dewsgirl]

93. I worry that in a couple months the election will be the

least of our worries..I pray that I am wrong. This is being handled worse than I imagined, and I didn't expect much.

[wnylib]

10. It will sink him, like Katrina sank

Bush in his second term and paved the way for Obama.

Sad that it takes disaster and loss of life to wake people up to the incompetence of the people they chose to put in power.

[empedocles]

27. Ah, the falling stock and housing markets had something to do with it.

[misanthrope]

45. Agreed. In America, it's the money that topples regimes

Human suffering doesn't motivate citizens as much.

[wnylib]

68. Yes, of course they did.

But Katrina was a turning point that caused a big drop in the Bush approval rating.

Like a 3 point turn: gradually falling support for the Iraq war, then huge criticism and outrage over Katrina, and finally the market crash.

Those pictures of people stranded in the hot sun surrounded by flood water for days without food and water, the slow response, "Heck of a job, Brownie," and the insensitive attempt at sympathy by pointing out that Trent Lott, too, had suffered property loss.

[jpak]

84. Trump loyalists will kill millions

yup

[wnylib]

7. Wow. We are in better shape

in NY regarding tests. Gov. Cuomo obtained tests and permission from Pence to use them.

22 cases in NYC area-Bronx. I am on opposite side of the state near Buffalo. 2 people there tested negative.

[EarthFirst]

16. We're in Rochester...

There’s one test pending which should be available some time tomorrow.

I am generally under he assumption that it’s here; it just hasn’t been officially confirmed by lab testing yet...

[wnylib]

69. Me too. 22 cases in Ontario and the

daily travel between Ontario and NY for jobs, shoppibg, and Niagara Falls tourism pretty much guarantees the spread. Plus daily travel between my community and Buffalo.

Can't believe how slow the locals are, though, to realize
or accept that. Ran into a couple friends while stocking up on supplies who could not understand my concern.

[wnylib]

71. PS -- Also there are the students in

foreign study prograns being brought home to quarantine in NY. Some will be housed in western NY dorms. They are returning from Italy, Japan, and Iran.

If any of them have been exposed, which seems very possible, it will spread in the area eventually because there is always some leak in protocol in quarantines.

[Fla Dem]

36. Trump's got hotels in NYC and doesn't want to lose business.

He wants to get those people tested and quarantined so they don’t infect his properties.

[wnylib]

70. That might have played into the

Pence approval for testing, but it was Cuomo who took the initiative to get the tests developed for use in NY. These NY test kits did not come from the CDC or federal government. A few other states have done the same and got approval from Pence. It relieves some of the load for the CDC.

Occurs to me that Trump might actually prefer no testing in NYC to avoid loss of revenue from people avoiding his properties as the word gets out. His properties are in Manhattan and the covid 19 cluster is in the borough of Bronx, but in crowded NYC, where people use public transportation to go to work, shop, and visit people and sites, it can spread easily.

There are 22 confirmed cases in the Bronx and Westchester County, with 1100+ people quarantined due to contact with infected persons.

[wnylib]

72. Oops. NYC quarantine update - 2700

[tblue37]

9. K&R for visibility. nt

[cwydro]

11. This should be all over the news.

So much for Pence saying anyone who wants the test can get it.

This is a fucking crime. They’re trying to hide this.

[CousinIT]

12. Text of the nurse's statement

[Hekate]

13. Oh. My. God.

This is Trump and Pence all over.

[appalachiablue]

15. Unreal, she's right to put this is writing. Friggin' Third World Banana Republic

operation going on.

[2naSalit]

31. Which is why I can't but think

in a dark corner of my mind that this was intentional. Not the virus itself but dark opportunism with a public health emergency.

[uponit7771]

44. Shit (Aretha Franklin gif)

[yonder]

14. This is far beyond the pale of what Americans should be expecting from their government.

Absolutely terrifying and her message needs to be spread far and wide.

[Girard442]

17. Sounds like Trump's CDC is slow-walking testing.

Somebody who isn’t tested can never be reported as a positive.

[2naSalit]

32. +1

[DENVERPOPS]

42. You are dead on Girard

No testing = no infected people.....

I have been yelling about this technique the President and his entire merry band of minions have been doing.


They also have used this same method while running the government. If there is some agency that takes care of the public, they don't get rid of the agency, Mitch just de-funds it so there is no money to operate.....

Trump and Mitch had cut the CDC budget by a third just prior to this epidemic????? They also cut funding to the WHO and NIH....

I believe ALL U.S. patients should be transported and treated at Mar a Lago, or his hotel in Washington DC.

The Republicans might get a little more active about this problem when the first cases show up in Washington D.C................

[wnylib]

74. Trump, Pence, and McConnell

are playing Russian roulette with their own health as well as their families and friends. What makes them think they are immune? Once it is widespread everywhere, they will be vulnerable, too.

My God, the stupidity.

[uponit7771]

46. BOOM !!! This is on purpose

[patphil]

87. I had hoped that wasn't the case, but now it appears to be true.

[BigmanPigman]

18. Thank Dog for the Nurses Union!

When I had black mold in the ceiling and walls of my 1st grade classroom the school district gave me a fan and a can of Lysol and told me to keep the door closed (ho windows in the room) since "there was more mold outside than inside". I had to sleep while sitting up in bed and was coughing all night long for over a month. The students were showing each other how to use inhalers since we were all sick. Finally, out of frustration, I went to the local Teachers Union (SDEA) and got real action right away. That whole building was demolished within 5 weeks. Fuck the $$$/bureaucracy that is NOT concerned with anyone's health. Thank you Unions!!!!!

[dewsgirl]

19. Sounds scary. I'm happy they took care of it.

[BigmanPigman]

21. I have permanant damage due to it though.

And I was only in that room for less than two months. This is why you have to nail this stuff earlier than later.

[dewsgirl]

23. Yikes, I'm sorry.😳

[bucolic_frolic]

20. Nurses are being treated like canaries in the coal mine

And what does Trump hope to accomplish? Saving money? By spreading the illness further and wider???

Avoiding panic? By bottling it up until it explodes in public consciousness???

Supporting the stock market? Making for a bigger drop later when the truth is known???

I cannot think of one good reason why Trump Administration should think sweeping this under the rug is a good idea, will be of long term use to them before the election, or can avoid costs or panic.

The sole benefit must be in his sick mind.

[dewsgirl]

22. I am worried in a couple months from now, the election

will be the least of our worries.

[bucolic_frolic]

26. Spanish Flu 1918 remains the closest comparison

3 waves, globally, most jurisdictions took slow prudent measures, a few took none, a couple did everything they could.

Even with the world's uneven health care, we should have better survival rates now. But so far, that's not what they're projecting.

This could level anyone, low, high, far, near.

[dewsgirl]

34. ....

[bucolic_frolic]

52. I know, it's on everyone's mind, i'm feeling it too

fear is hard to live with. we haven't enough Trump fear we get the flu jitters

you hang in there

[dewsgirl]

54. You too.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

94. Among the reasons the Spanish Flu spread as it did

was that this country kept on putting soldiers who'd been exposed back in their crowded camps, putting them on crowded troop ships, essentially guaranteeing that almost everyone on board would come down with the flu. Doctors, from what I understand, kept on begging the President and the Department of the Army to stop doing that but they refused.

The John Barry's book The Great Influenza is amazing and worth the read. More recent evidence indicates that his conclusion that it got started in Kansas is probably incorrect.

[woodsprite]

55. I'm thinking that they're planning

On letting it escalate so they can cancel elections.

[dewsgirl]

57. I don't know if that's their endgame, it will certainly be a bonus.

[wnylib]

75. A reasonable suspicion, considering

who we are dealing with. Create fear, validated by epidemic, then cancel elections.

Crazy fools seem to think they are immune.

[BigmanPigman]

24. I dare Mr Germophobe to go into any hospital and stay

there more than a day.

[bucolic_frolic]

28. Wait! Bonus time

Trump isn't doing anything about it. He must want to make it as large and catastrophic as possible for political gain - cancel the elections, declare emergencies, clear more Democrats from power. A mini well controlled pandemic is of no use. The big enchilada - THAT would provide more opportunity for him.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

79. Maybe

Trump is a by proxy murderer after all he's sociopathic narcissistic and authoritarian. The bastards might see this virus as a way to "cull the herd". The right is chock full of nazis. The 1% people get threatened by the people that are not like themselves.

Far more of us than them. Maybe they detect that they can't control some of us, that some of us are wise to thier control games lies and manipulations.

[bucolic_frolic]

82. You got it. Quarantine Camps

The Friendly Full Nazi

[rickyhall]

25. We must leave Stupidland soon.

[bluestarone]

29. SHAME SHAME SHAME for our government!

The Nurses and Drs. are protecting us and THIS happens? WE need to HIT THE STREETS to show our support!!! FUCK this government!!

[DENVERPOPS]

43. I'm sorry

but Kaiser isn't known for running tests that *THEY* feel "aren't warranted"................

[Sgent]

78. Kaiser has nothing to do with this

the employee health physician recommended the test to the local health department, who sent it to the CDC. Its the CDC that hasn't performed it.

[iluvtennis]

30. This is unacceptable. Pence do your job. nt

[Jarqui]

33. Outrageous

China has really slowed the spread down. They've been near 80,000 cases for a while.

I read an article by a health expert (WHO?) looking into it. He felt the Chinese numbers were legit.

Jumping on quarantine and limiting humans mixing has something to do with it.

I do not understand why more is not being done around the world like this.

Why take the chance?

[dewsgirl]

53. I have been all over this story for past month, the numbers

are bogus. The WHO is also not at all what I thought they were, it makes me feel like a crazy person to say that.

[Cousin Dupree]

56. Tell us more.

[dewsgirl]

58. Someone will come along and want proof, it's hard with this

thing, information comes from all different sources/countries. I have never been one that believes in conspiracies and I don't here. I try to get the best info. I can, which is damned hard, when the higher ups are lying at every turn.

[dewsgirl]

62. Did you see this thread earlier today?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13047987

[Cousin Dupree]

80. No I didn't. Just read it. Holy s--t.

[dewsgirl]

81. Yes, much is being hidden from the general public.

I had known about that story, but was afraid to post it..I was relieved when someone else did.
There have been a few stories related to CV, that have first presented themselves as wacky theories and then panned out, it's all so surreal.

[Jarqui]

63. I do not trust the numbers either

I feel like the rich guys want to get their money out of the market and leave the rest holding the empty bag

But the article was by a health person who went to China to verify and see what was going on. I did not feel he was BSing me. The Chinese have the authoritarian power to pull off what he was talking about.

I wasn't there so I can't guarantee the article. I can't find it quickly. But he went through it and it didn't seem crazy. I do not understand why we haven't been more aggressive on this in North America.

The logic: everyone stays where they are for a month or so
Disease can't transmit beyond where people are.

They have R naught numbers for how infectious. R of 2 means one infected person will infect 2. To stop a pandemic, you get the R number below 1. Then it dies out. That's what they did with SARs for example.

So that's not crazy either.

What we need to be looking at is getting our communities organized towards that objective. (as well as testing kits, supplies, places to treat the ill due to a lack of hospital beds, etc)

[dewsgirl]

65. I was discussing the movie Contagion in another thread,

for the past month I have felt like I was dropped into a Contagion sequel and my fellow Americans had not yet arrived. The R0 is much higher with CV than the virus in the movie, and the deception amongst the higher ups is alarmingly higher as well.
I hate sounding like an unhinged Infowars nutjob, I realize that's how it sounds.

[Jarqui]

66. If we project the numbers we've been told

millions of Americans and over 100 million people around the world could potentially die.

I do not think we can be too cautious facing those sorts of numbers.

You are NOT an unhinged nutjob.
There is ample evidence for concern.
Erring on the side of caution under these circumstances is closer to calm, rational & sensible.

[dewsgirl]

67. Thank you, that means a lot.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

95. You do understand that Contagion is a movie.

Fiction.

Not a good example of hard science.

Recently I was watching a thing on the internet looking at many of the disease movies and carefully critiquing how much almost all of them got wrong.

[dewsgirl]

96. I was just using the R0 example.

[gademocrat7]

35. Horrifying incompetence

[trof]

37. UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE

OK, I take that back.
With this bunch of yahoos it is entirely believable.
crap

[gab13by13]

39. What they are doing is planned.

[uponit7771]

47. THANK YOU !!!

[dewsgirl]

88. I occasionally allow myself to venture into this, I can't help

it too much deception amongst world governments. I try my best not to.

[smirkymonkey]

64. My reaction exactly.

I really cannot believe this shit. What the hell is going on in this country? If Trump is worried about the market now, wait until people start dropping like flies.

They could be doing something right now to prevent the spread of this disease, but because they don't want to accept responsibility or blame, they are doing fuck all to mitigate the damage.

I don't want to see people sick or die, but the stupidity and arrogance of the republican party is going to be their downfall.

[dewsgirl]

90. +1000 it's a perfect storm for an epic disaster.

[gab13by13]

38. It's easy to understand folks,

remember in the beginning Trump called it a hoax? Trump doesn't want people tested, Pence verified that today by saying we don't have enough test kits. Trump doesn't want to test because the number of positive tests we have right now is around 200 people. Trump wants people to die without being tested so he can blame it on pneumonia or the regular flu. If Trump does massive testing which is what we should be doing it will take away Trump's talking points that coronavirus is a nothingburger dreamed up by the liberal MSM and Democratic politicians to damage Trump's reelection chances.

Trump doesn't care how many people die as long as their deaths aren't attributed to coronavirus.

[warmfeet]

40. Good luck everyone.

I think they are trying to show that we are all, truly, on our own. Do not expect any help, whatsoever, from this maladministration. They benefit from chaos and from lies. I will fight until the end. Hopefully, that is a long time away.

Nurses, they are wonderful, in my experience.

[uponit7771]

48. The explanation of thread is no test means no infections

[SunSeeker]

41. Wow. The CDC is covering up for Trump's incompetence and failure to prepare.

How is a quarantined nurse not a testing priority? What is really happening, of course, is that they just don't have the test to give out. So, they're coming up with bullshit reasons for why they aren't giving out the test kits. This is unconscionable.

[bobbieinok]

49. Be anti science, cut funding---no one in Trump gang cares about American public!!

[Dennis Donovan]

50. That's not even in Seattle.

Jesus, this is going to be worse than I imagined if we lose medical first responders right out of the gate.

[dewsgirl]

60. Yes.😔

[Control-Z]

51. I can't even imagine something like this happening

while Obama was in office. But you can be sure that if something like this did occur on Obama's watch he would address it within hours.

[dewsgirl]

61. Yes, I keep saying how is this happening under the worst

administration in the history of the US, I know there are those here that will bring up Bush at this point..right now I would happily take Bush as our president, over Trump.

[Control-Z]

73. Right?

I know W was horrible and I detested him and everything he did but even he would be doing, or trying to do, the right thing for the American people.

[procon]

59. Trump comes first.

If patients are not tested then there is no reportable increase in the number of confirmed cases so Trump can continue to go on TV and brag about how wonderful he is and how this virus thing is a hoax because no one is getting sick.

Multiply this one case times hundreds, if not thousands of other people who would test positive if only the test kits were readily available. The CDC has been corrupted by Trump and is no longer a reliable source of public info. Look to the WHO and states like NY, California, Washington, with proactive public health agencies for info.

[wnylib]

76. So much for America first claim.

[58Sunliner]

77. Insane. My state says the 100 PUI's can not be tested because-no tests.

Supposedly Lab Corp has a test coming out next Monday.

[zaj]

83. She blamed the "bureaucracy"...

That's not the problem... It's a dysfunctional adminstration, shaped by an ideology despises any weakness and an ignorant, malignant narcacisst.

Don't blame the institution.

[BSdetect]

85. k&r

[patphil]

86. Hard to believe this shit is actually going down in this country.

The CDC has been politicized.
This will only facilitate the spread of the disease.
It's a national disgrace.

[dewsgirl]

89. Unfortunately, the mistakes America is making are

closest to mirroring as far as CV goes, is Iran. I hope that I am wrong.

[C Moon]

92. Here's a YouTube link if you want to share via YouTube.