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mfcorey1

(11,134 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:14 PM Mar 2020

A travelers testimony posted on Facebook will make you think

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(It is not me)


Maggie McDow
Yesterday at 11:52 AM
I want to share with everyone my story of potentially having COVID-19 and how our health care system is completely broken in dealing with this. If you think people are getting tested and being isolated from the rest of the public, think again. Think there are no cases in your community? Think again. If my story is any indication, this thing is way out of control already -- we just aren’t testing people so we don’t know about it.

I will start with my travel history. On Sunday, February 23, I began a trip to Thailand for a meeting for work. I didn’t read the news that morning because I was busy getting packed and out of the door. My first flight left from Dulles and landed in Seoul 14 hours later (it’s now Monday, 2/24). There was no wi-fi on the flight and so it wasn’t until I landed that I knew that South Korea was experiencing an outbreak. I bought a mask in the airport, got some food and coffee, and then boarded my plane to Bangkok. I spent five days in a meeting in Bangkok washing hands religiously. On Saturday 2/29 I began my trip back. My trip had been rerouted back through London so that I would avoid South Korea. I spent the night in London near the airport and returned to Dulles on Sunday March 1st.

You may remember that on Saturday there was a big announcement from Trump saying that they would be taking increased measures to ensure people coming from South Korea would be evaluated and tested when necessary. So, I was a little worried I would have trouble getting back into the country. Every other country I had flown through they made announcements on the plane as we were landing. In Thailand there were public health officials randomly testing people coming off of my flight and in all other countries there were clear signs of what to do if you don’t feel well directing you to people to talk to. In London, public health people even boarded the plane before we could disembark. When I got to Dulles, there was nothing. I didn’t see a single sign, there were no announcements, and while I was looking, I didn’t see anyone checking anyone’s health or a place where people could ask someone a question.

I was looking because toward the end of that last flight, the lymph nodes in my neck started to swell and that is usually a sign I’m about to be sick. I called my ex-husband to ask him to keep the kids for an extra day to be on the safe side and made a quick stop by the grocery store to get some food for the week.

On Monday I was achy, had a headache, had chills and generally felt horrible. But, no fever or chest congestion and so I wasn’t too worried just thinking I had picked up a cold travelling. On Tuesday when I woke up, I got more concerned because there was now congestion in my chest, and I was coughing and having shortness of breath. I called my asthma doctor who told me to go to the ER because they didn’t have the capacity to deal with it and they thought I should be tested. I understood they were asking people to not just show up anywhere but to call first to let them know you are coming. I called GW hospital and they said not to come because they don’t have the tests. They told me that I should call the DC Department of Health.

I called the Department of Health. The man on the phone took a detailed history of my symptoms and my travel history and said that the shortness of breath could be from my asthma, I don’t have a fever, and because I’m low risk I don’t qualify to be tested. I was surprised to be called low-risk with my travel history. I know there are people at greater risk, and so I let it go. I asked if I should continue to self-quarantine and he said that limiting my interactions would be good and if I needed to go out wear a mask and wash hands a lot. I asked for how long and he said for 14 days since I was in South Korea. He also said to call back if my symptoms worsened or changed in any way. He said they would keep monitoring my case.

Over the course of the week, my symptoms would get better and then worse. I didn’t feel like I was on death’s door and felt much like I have felt when I’ve had the flu but with no head congestion. On Wednesday night I was up with stomach cramps and diarrhea, and I also found out that one of my work colleagues was not feeling well. She is in rural Indonesia where testing isn’t possible and so there is no way to know if she has it. So, on Thursday morning I called back to Department of Health and the woman I talked to was clearly not familiar with my case and seemed to have no way to find my earlier call. I went through everything again, and told her of the new symptoms and my colleague being sick. She said that I haven’t been in contact with anyone who has it (she doesn’t care that my colleague is sick because she hasn’t been tested), and that I’m low risk. She said that if I feel I need to be tested, the way to do that is to go to my doctor and my doctor can recommend I be tested. I asked her whether I should extend my self-quarantine since I am now displaying symptoms, and she said no. That I don’t need to self-quarantine, and that I should treat it just like if I had a cold or the flu. I can go out in public just try not to cough on anyone and wash my hands a lot. I was stunned.

I called my doctor again who told me to go to urgent care or the emergency room, but they didn’t have capacity to deal with it. I really wanted to avoid the emergency room and didn’t think they would test me if I went so I didn’t go. I also thought going into a room full of sick people just wasn’t that great of an idea or either of us. On Friday, a friend contacted the director of the Department of Health who told me to go to an urgent care facility (even listing a few). So, instead of showing up I called a few, and they told me that they were not equipped to handle this and that I should go to the ER. I was then told by my friend that the director said they are doing testing at GW hospital’s emergency room and I should go there. That if a doctor thought I should be tested, they would test me there.

So, on Friday at 2:15, I arrived at the ER at GW. I told them I had been in South Korea. There clearly was someone else there in the same situation. They had me take a seat and then called me over to the triage nurse. She took my history and symptoms and told me they needed to put me in isolation. I was already wearing a mask but she also put gloves on my hands. They didn’t have a room right away and so put me in an area of the waiting room that was away from others and told the security guard not to let anyone else sit there. I was beginning to feel like I was in the right place where people were taking it seriously. Soon they called me back to a room. I saw a doctor and they said they were going to do a viral screen to rule out everything. It’s an ER, it took a long time, but I was in isolation thinking someone was taking me seriously and I was feeling good about that. After a few hours the doctor poked her head in to say I had tested positive for Flu B and they would be discharging me soon and get rest and liquids. About a half hour later, she came back in to apologize that she had mixed up my room with the room next door (I believe there were 3 other people there also being assessed for Covid-19 at the time), and that my flu test was actually negative as were the other things they test for and so now they would do a test for Covid-19. Time passed and I didn’t hear anything. After several hours the doctor came back in and told me that she was very sorry but the department of health was refusing to run the test. They said I wasn’t in South Korea long enough. She was furious. She said she was still trying to get them to change their mind. She got the chief of staff involved. She kept trying. Nothing. The doctor told me she thought there was a high likelihood that I have it based on my travel history, symptoms, the colleague that is sick, and all other tests coming back negative. But, without the test she couldn’t tell me for sure, and her hands were tied. She asked me to please keep self-quarantining and to come back if my symptoms worsened so that they could at least treat the symptoms. At 11:45, I was discharged and went home.

Do I have Covid-19? Who knows. Do we have a broken public healthcare system that is utterly failing during a health pandemic? Absolutely.

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A travelers testimony posted on Facebook will make you think (Original Post) mfcorey1 Mar 2020 OP
Thank you for sharing this and I wish you health. CurtEastPoint Mar 2020 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #2
This is scary. sounds like no in the health care field one knows what anyone else is doing northoftheborder Mar 2020 #3
They probably customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #27
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #4
Settle down now ! magicarpet Mar 2020 #5
Yes, Thoughts, and Prayers! Fla Dem Mar 2020 #16
That's outrageous. It's clear this is a clusterfuck of epic proportions and many more people are Vinca Mar 2020 #6
Wow! nt KPN Mar 2020 #7
What is clear is we are just not testing people. That is a horrific scandal. People will die. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #8
If we don't test, we won't have any positives. Great thinking from the (r)epuglicons erronis Mar 2020 #11
BINGO DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #21
It's a cruel world when top-ranked scientists need to worry about their job status based on politics erronis Mar 2020 #25
The entire Republican Party DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #33
They're doing it at the USDA in order to better ignore climate change, I fear. BadgerMom Mar 2020 #34
Dept is health refusing to do the test Javaman Mar 2020 #9
Outstanding account of your experience SpankMe Mar 2020 #10
American exceptionalism IronLionZion Mar 2020 #12
Thank you for your story PennyK Mar 2020 #13
Where are you located? Location is wnylib Mar 2020 #45
Hope you get completely well. trump is in so over is head. Measures... brush Mar 2020 #14
Just ridiculous...and I'm so sorry our gov't didn't rise to the occasion for you. I hope you improve Karadeniz Mar 2020 #15
mfcorey1 is this your experiences or someone's from FB. Fla Dem Mar 2020 #17
Someone from facebook mfcorey1 Mar 2020 #23
MY HEART IS WITH YOU......WASF N/C DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #18
Here's the problem, folks... dchill Mar 2020 #19
+1, China reported CV19 genetic sequence on Jan 12!! We still don't have WHO's mass test kits !! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #26
No test no covid-19 Ligyron Mar 2020 #29
Not to worry! James48 Mar 2020 #20
I am so sorry for your experience. But, WTF? Can no one stop this menace in the WH? Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #22
REMEMBER: Trump fired Americas Pandemic Response Team uponit7771 Mar 2020 #24
damn..if you're sick...you're sick... stillcool Mar 2020 #28
In the past 48 hours, I have read 6 of these stories.😳 dewsgirl Mar 2020 #30
it's just maddening that so few American have been tested. We are so far behind other countries totodeinhere Mar 2020 #31
I hope this bdamomma Mar 2020 #36
This is outrageous pandr32 Mar 2020 #32
this was shameful bdamomma Mar 2020 #35
Send. This. To. Rachel. Maddow. Talitha Mar 2020 #37
But the tests are all perfect Farmer-Rick Mar 2020 #38
We don't have a functioning government at this point Warpy Mar 2020 #39
"getting tested does nothing but add to the case count." Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #40
What do you think it does? Warpy Mar 2020 #42
One word for the uninformed - Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #43
Too funny! Warpy Mar 2020 #44
Trump said that himself intrepidity Mar 2020 #47
Well there you go. We are all going to die captain queeg Mar 2020 #41
Ignorance in the general public is frightening wnylib Mar 2020 #46
Appreciate your log here. ALL information is useful. calimary Mar 2020 #48
They don't want to ruin Trumps numbers. Disgusting the way this is being handled. Hope you feel Kota Mar 2020 #49
Spoke with a Delaware ER nurse tonight. woodsprite Mar 2020 #50

northoftheborder

(7,637 posts)
3. This is scary. sounds like no in the health care field one knows what anyone else is doing
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:26 PM
Mar 2020

..much less what they are doing.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
27. They probably
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:57 PM
Mar 2020

know what they are doing, but there are not nearly enough test kits available, so they are stuck with rationing the few they have. Rationing involves using criteria that often seems illogical, and may indeed be so, but they were developed by people living in ivory towers who may have a distorted view of what is going on in the real world.

magicarpet

(18,511 posts)
5. Settle down now !
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:41 PM
Mar 2020

Just pray,...

Pray the Coronavirus away.

Thank you Jesus.



trDumpie/dence 2020

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
6. That's outrageous. It's clear this is a clusterfuck of epic proportions and many more people are
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:42 PM
Mar 2020

going to pay with their lives. I hope this woman is getting better on her own because it appears she's just that: on her own.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
8. What is clear is we are just not testing people. That is a horrific scandal. People will die.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:05 PM
Mar 2020

And Trump will just blame it on the flu. It is all about "keeping the numbers low."

erronis

(23,881 posts)
11. If we don't test, we won't have any positives. Great thinking from the (r)epuglicons
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:17 PM
Mar 2020

If we don't let them vote then our opponents can't win.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
21. BINGO
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:22 PM
Mar 2020

The Republican's don't obliterate the CDC..........they just cut their operational funding.......a cute trick that is 100% effective and simple.........

That, and intimidation. Did you notice how the head of the CDC is now in lockstep with Trump's total Bullshit about the Corona????

All the Republicans have to do is threaten him/her and other heads of CDC with their Jobs and those people figure out a way to rationalize their own well being compared to the sake of the nation......ie why should I be the fall guy and lose my prestigious and well paying job?????

For the Republicans, this has been working well in ALL arenas for years and years and years.

erronis

(23,881 posts)
25. It's a cruel world when top-ranked scientists need to worry about their job status based on politics
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:45 PM
Mar 2020

It''s easy for me to say, "I would just walk and send a strongly-worded letter to all the MSM, etc."

I've worked on US projects that I don't agree with. But they weren't directly "evil" (IMHO). I also didn't want to miss payments on mortgages or ability to get further contracts.

We're all beholden - to something. Just most of us aren't beholden to Russian cash (counterfeited, I'm sure).

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
33. The entire Republican Party
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 04:44 PM
Mar 2020

are nothing but sadistic, mean, hateful, racist, psychopathic, narcissistic, arrogant tyrants or wannabe tyrants........They GLOAT AND LAUGH about the pain they are inflicting on all of us...................

These past three years, they and their voters/supporters have risen to an entirely new level of being totally despicable..........it's nauseating and revolting to read or hear them trying to shove it down all us decent peoples throats.................

Javaman

(65,711 posts)
9. Dept is health refusing to do the test
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:16 PM
Mar 2020

and right there, my friends, is the politicalization of the virus

SpankMe

(3,720 posts)
10. Outstanding account of your experience
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:16 PM
Mar 2020

I hope your symptoms are NOT coronavirus and that it's just a coincidental occurrence of some other, less serious ailment. I just regret the indefinite self-isolation you have to experience with the stress of the unknowns.

Please post an update if you can when there's a change!

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
12. American exceptionalism
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:18 PM
Mar 2020

I'm sure the private sector will come up with a very expensive solution that helps fabulously wealthy people, so the American solution would be to hang out with wealthy Americans so they can pay to be tested.

Biden or Sanders would be a million times better than our current leadership, but our country has structural problems in our health care system that I don't see getting fixed anytime soon. But we should try. It's pretty obvious that it's not working.

PennyK

(2,343 posts)
13. Thank you for your story
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:22 PM
Mar 2020

I have some symptoms but haven't traveled, and I'm seeing the doctor tomorrow. Just a scratchy throat and starting today, head fog. Hoping it is strep or something easily diagnosed.

wnylib

(26,016 posts)
45. Where are you located? Location is
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 12:41 AM
Mar 2020

a factor, although it is potentionally widespread enough now that location might not be as significant as when it started in the US .

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. Hope you get completely well. trump is in so over is head. Measures...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:34 PM
Mar 2020

should've been in place at the airport, and the public health should be his priority, not the stock market.

Karadeniz

(24,746 posts)
15. Just ridiculous...and I'm so sorry our gov't didn't rise to the occasion for you. I hope you improve
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
17. mfcorey1 is this your experiences or someone's from FB.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:03 PM
Mar 2020

Some DUer's think it's you who experienced it, while I thought you were sharing something you read on FB.

If this is/was your experience, I sincerely hope you fully recover and thank you for such a detailed recounting of your situation. It has opened our eyes. Please share it with both your Representative and Senator.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
19. Here's the problem, folks...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020

THERE ARE NO FUCKING TESTS!

I'm looking at YOU, Republicans!

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
26. +1, China reported CV19 genetic sequence on Jan 12!! We still don't have WHO's mass test kits !!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:47 PM
Mar 2020

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
29. No test no covid-19
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020

No Corona virus = no problem!

Except even the Trumpkins are gonna get sick ...

James48

(5,215 posts)
20. Not to worry!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020

Trump said it would go away by April, maybe by May. Nothing to see here- move along.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
28. damn..if you're sick...you're sick...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:58 PM
Mar 2020

sounds like if she tested positive for one of the other viruses, she'd have been taken care of. And this is in D.C.? Wow.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
31. it's just maddening that so few American have been tested. We are so far behind other countries
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 04:16 PM
Mar 2020

who have tested so many more than we have. And that idiot in the White House keeps saying everything is under control.

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
32. This is outrageous
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 04:18 PM
Mar 2020

I worry that this (mal)administration is trying to not spend approved money, but like everything else approved will siphon it off as they seem to be pillaging everything they can.
What will the hospitals do? As the situation worsens and they become overwhelmed it will become a financial crisis that will likely be used to blame Democrats somehow. Of course, Democrats won't believe a word of it but DT's base will even if they contract the virus.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
35. this was shameful
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

what this woman went through. So our Dept of Health is being muzzled and not doing testing due to protecting this POS tRump to keep his ass protected while people are wondering if they have the virus. tRump again is a threat to us and hopefully he will reap what he had sowed, but in the meantime Americans are dying from an inept government. Shameful.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
38. But the tests are all perfect
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:53 PM
Mar 2020

Just like the lies about Biden's son and the extortion of Ukraine...all perfect.

We don't need a Con when there is a pandemic.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
39. We don't have a functioning government at this point
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

since our national leadership are a bunch of science denying toadies who are standing around with their thumbs up their bums and hoping they're not fired because trying to pary it away aint working.

What I would say to this woman and anyone else with a non life threatening case of this thing is stay home, take antipyretics liuke Tylenol or Motrin when the temperature goes over 101.5F, drink fluids, rest, and wait for the damned thing to run its course. Getting tested does nothing but add to a case count. It's a virus and there is really no treatment for it except rest, fluids, and antipyretics as needed. Save the ERs for people who are sick with life threatening symptoms because if you don't have it and have a wild strain of the flu instead, you'll get this virus on top of it.

We can't count on those idiots in DC to do what would really make a difference, vote in compensation for low wage workers who don't have paid sick leave in order to convince them to stay home when they're sick. Republicans all think people will use it and just lay out of work. Republicans have such a low opinion of working people that one wonders where they get their votes.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
44. Too funny!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:58 PM
Mar 2020

It's not like we're going to have that luxury for a long time.

There aren't enough tests. The tests aren't rapid assay. Frightened people are going to clamor for The Test for every cough and in some states, they will get them because guidelines have not been issued. The test will do nothing for the patients who get them. Patients who are positive but who aren't seriously ill will be sent home because we have no other place to put them and after they have spread infection in the community by going to get The Test.

Our disorganized government, lack of universal health care, and lack of national sick leave policy will make this much worse.

Testing is not going to change that. Places with health care and sick leave will do the epidemiology studies.

The US will be a study in what happens when governments forget why they exist.

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
47. Trump said that himself
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 03:17 AM
Mar 2020

Well, in speaking about the cruise ship off California he said, out loud at a presser, that he didn't want the 21 infected people to be released from the ship because it would add to the number of people counted as positive.

I shit you not.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
41. Well there you go. We are all going to die
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:11 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe not you or me but many many people will because of the idiot anti-science fools in charge nowadays.

wnylib

(26,016 posts)
46. Ignorance in the general public is frightening
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:42 AM
Mar 2020

because it means infected people will spread it among the most vulnerable.

I live near the center of town, so buses are easily available to me and cheaper on a fixed income than car maintenance. But risky now. Saturday a bus was nearly empty. The driver said people are afraid to use buses now but he thought the concern was overblown. Why worry about a new strain of flu?

So I told him it is not flu and is worse. He said only the elderly are at risk, same as the flu. I am 70 and he was dropping me off at a senior complex, so I thanked him for his indifference to me. Also clued him in on the young healthcare workers who have died, and the permanent lung damage to survivors. Then lectured him on flu shots keeping flu cases and deaths down, but there is no shot for this virus so it will infect more people with more deaths. (I was angry and working up some steam). I finished by saying that people with attitudes like his put people like me at risk needlessly because of their selfish lack of concern about spreading it.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
48. Appreciate your log here. ALL information is useful.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:15 AM
Mar 2020

ALL testimony about what’s going on out there is useful.

Kota

(901 posts)
49. They don't want to ruin Trumps numbers. Disgusting the way this is being handled. Hope you feel
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:27 AM
Mar 2020

better Mfcoery1.

woodsprite

(12,582 posts)
50. Spoke with a Delaware ER nurse tonight.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020

She said DE hasn't had any cases, and they're not separating respiratory patients from other patients in the ER yet. She actually said this is little more than a cold or the regular flu and she thinks the media has blown it all out of proportion.

Delaware hasn't had any COVID cases - yet - but we've had plenty of flu cases. One of the worst years so far for Delaware in regards to the number of flu cases and deaths, so maybe, just maybe, they should be separating those respiratory patients already.

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