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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:18 PM Mar 2020

I had to use a paper bag at the grocery store the other day. Oh, the memories!

I had to pick a few items at the grocery store. I had to use a paper bag and I loved it. It held so many more items. You had to use two hands to carry or the bag may rip. How horrifying!

I am very old fashioned, I never believe in change unless it makes sense. I still use cash for everything. It's Hard to hack cash. I have never owned a smart phone. I don't want people calling me all the time? I hated phones before smart phones.

I have used cash for everything my whole life. What a terrible burden, Lol. The results of doing this have given me a credit score of over 800 and very little debt.

Please call me old fashion, a dinosaur, it is a great compliment.

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I had to use a paper bag at the grocery store the other day. Oh, the memories! (Original Post) shockey80 Mar 2020 OP
I still write checks! northoftheborder Mar 2020 #1
You may want to pick up some gloves to handle your cash... hlthe2b Mar 2020 #2
Credit card users should do the same jimfields33 Mar 2020 #27
Sure, but you can/should wipe them with your hand gel or wipes. Can't do that with cash hlthe2b Mar 2020 #28
I remember them from when I was young, we have to dewsgirl Mar 2020 #3
When I was young and strong, there was a blizzard in 1967 in Chicago at140 Mar 2020 #31
That sounds like an absolute nightmare, obviously it was for you dewsgirl Mar 2020 #37
Yeah somethings you never forget! at140 Mar 2020 #43
so glad to meet another dinosaur! I hate my smart phone and don't use it. CTyankee Mar 2020 #4
I finally decided I was too dumb for a smart phone and now I've got a flip phone. Vinca Mar 2020 #7
Texting is a nightmare though on flip phones Polybius Mar 2020 #11
why does anybody need to text if you can call? CTyankee Mar 2020 #21
That's what I though too...in 2003 Polybius Mar 2020 #23
group email? Just like we used to do? What's wrong with that? CTyankee Mar 2020 #24
Multiple reasons Polybius Mar 2020 #50
you can also get a phone call. I think (but I'm not sure) that that was why the cell phone was CTyankee Mar 2020 #54
I use voice often too Polybius Mar 2020 #55
I can see that, even tho I won't use it. I am woefully behind everyone else. CTyankee Mar 2020 #56
Sending pictures sometimes is useful too Polybius Mar 2020 #57
oh yes, of course. CTyankee Mar 2020 #58
If you don't have time to talk to those folks customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #39
That's just how it works these days Polybius Mar 2020 #53
Because people you call have busy lives LakeArenal Mar 2020 #26
You can do that with an email, too. customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #38
I'm with you customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #36
I think that's kinda sad actually. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #41
It does suit me customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #42
You think I'm sad. Is there a difference there? LakeArenal Mar 2020 #44
I explained customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #45
I still pay cash Ohiogal Mar 2020 #5
I don't use my phone to talk to people- Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #6
Me too! CottonBear Mar 2020 #25
Then they can be re-used to wrap packages, rather than... SMC22307 Mar 2020 #8
...and covering schoolbooks too! This dino remembers doing that with paper bags. Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #40
Absolutely, I forgot about that! SMC22307 Mar 2020 #47
Luddites forever. Woohoo. brush Mar 2020 #9
I still use paper bags. SamKnause Mar 2020 #10
Well, at least you love computers Polybius Mar 2020 #12
paper bag? handmade34 Mar 2020 #13
But paper can be used over and over as long as it marybourg Mar 2020 #15
Yep. I would add that the when it comes to the same number of bags - paper or plastic- stopbush Mar 2020 #19
Those cloth bags are not environmentally safe either jimfields33 Mar 2020 #30
I've never washed a cloth grocery bag, let alone every few days ... I use 'em for years, too ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #52
I recently got a large paper bag with handles at Smiths here in town. It was free for nothing abqtommy Mar 2020 #14
That's Ok. We've been able to hack into all of your personal records and accounts stopbush Mar 2020 #16
I use the net bag I remember my grandmother using. That sucker is amazing! It takes up no Squinch Mar 2020 #17
I have a couple of those around here. I mostly use for produce. yonder Mar 2020 #33
It's all fun and games until it rains Generic Brad Mar 2020 #18
I use and save paper bags for various reasons GusBob Mar 2020 #20
Disposable Diapers Need To Be Next To Go... Enter Username Here Mar 2020 #22
My kids are so old they had cloth diapers...yes, they are in their 50s... CTyankee Mar 2020 #46
Yep... Enter Username Here Mar 2020 #49
Umm, where are your reuseable bags? maxsolomon Mar 2020 #29
I still hate phone calls, but have a smart phone nonetheless. yonder Mar 2020 #32
Costa Rica Walmart did without bags of any kind without notice LakeArenal Mar 2020 #34
I know the feeling... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #35
We use nothing but paper bags and since we cook pretty much all meals GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #48
My grocery store always has paper bags. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #51

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
2. You may want to pick up some gloves to handle your cash...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

It is unclear the level of risk, but there certainly is some. (and I've always liked to use cash too--especially after my credit/debit card was cloned a few years ago)

jimfields33

(15,965 posts)
27. Credit card users should do the same
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

Those key punch machines are used by virtually everyone. ATM and store machines are probably so infected.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
3. I remember them from when I was young, we have to
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:26 PM
Mar 2020

carry everything up stairs, I imagine that would be a real nightmare with paper bags.
I never lived in an apartment until recently, I find this to be a huge inconvenience, but am thankful it isn't the third floor.

at140

(6,110 posts)
31. When I was young and strong, there was a blizzard in 1967 in Chicago
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:10 PM
Mar 2020

and my street had 6 foot deep snow which did not get ploughed for a week. My car by the curb was buried.
Guess what, I had to walk to the grocery store a mile away, and carry paper bags full of groceries back to our apartment. I will never forget how tired my arms were at the end of that walk. When you start out from the store, you think oh this is not too heavy, I can carry it. But after 8 blocks walk it is a different story.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
37. That sounds like an absolute nightmare, obviously it was for you
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

to remember 50 years later. I feel bad bitching about walking up a flight of stairs.

at140

(6,110 posts)
43. Yeah somethings you never forget!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

and that just boggles my mind thinking how can our brain retain so many vivid memories so long.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. so glad to meet another dinosaur! I hate my smart phone and don't use it.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

I know I have to, but in order to do so I have to have a "tutorial" from my husband.

I carry reusable bags into the supermarket like everyone else, tho. I don't really want paper bags because they don't last as long as my resuseable ones.

Give me a break, folks. I have other, wonderful qualities...

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
7. I finally decided I was too dumb for a smart phone and now I've got a flip phone.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

It does all I need to do and costs a bit less, too.

Polybius

(15,483 posts)
11. Texting is a nightmare though on flip phones
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:38 PM
Mar 2020

I remember those days around 2004. Was a royal pain in the butt.

Polybius

(15,483 posts)
23. That's what I though too...in 2003
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:44 PM
Mar 2020

But today we can send a text when we don't want to talk. Here's the perfect example:

If I text my buddy Vin "Can you play cards tonight?" he'll respond either yes, no, or maybe. If I call him, he'll babble on an on and I might not be able to hang up for 20 minutes. Not that I don't want to talk to him, but I might be at work, sneaking a text. I have to be quick.

Plus (and here's a huge reason for texting) let's say I have to text like 10 people for the card game at my house. Imagine how long it will take if they are all talkers. Texting saves potentially 2 hours that I just don't have time for.

Polybius

(15,483 posts)
50. Multiple reasons
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:09 AM
Mar 2020

1) Not everyone is always in front of their computer

2) The average person always has their phone next to them

3) Not every friend knows my email address. I'd bet less than 3 do. Certainly none of my card buddies.

4) It's fun.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
54. you can also get a phone call. I think (but I'm not sure) that that was why the cell phone was
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:21 AM
Mar 2020

initially invented. Right?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
58. oh yes, of course.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:34 AM
Mar 2020

I wonder, tho, about a culture that is constantly sending pictures of themselves to each other because it CAN.

HOwever, I thought Warren's selfie pix was a terrific idea for a politician. Everybody who got to take those pix became part of her PR campaign. It was unpaid for advertising. I really thought that was brilliant.

Polybius

(15,483 posts)
53. That's just how it works these days
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:18 AM
Mar 2020

I can love a friend or relative more than anyone. Doesn't mean I always want to talk, or always have time to talk. Especially 10 of them for cards. I do always have time to text though, it's faster. Ain't got time for that when I'm at work.

I have time Sunday nights. Some are good friends, some are acquaintances that I couldn't even begin to imagine talking on the phone to. Most are Republicans anyway, I don't need to hear about Trump.

I don't want to return to the dark ages of no texting. I'm an Xer. I was the first generation to use cells, although they weren't mainstream until I was in my 20's.

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
26. Because people you call have busy lives
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:03 PM
Mar 2020

They can return a text at their convenience without disrupting people with a ringing phone.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
38. You can do that with an email, too.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

I guess a text is just an email that people feel oddly compelled to respond to faster than a regular email.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
36. I'm with you
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:29 PM
Mar 2020

I refuse to text. Anything that someone wants to say to me, they can either call me or email me.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
42. It does suit me
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:47 PM
Mar 2020

Why is it "sad"? I'm perfectly happy not burying my nose in a smartphone all day long like so many people do lately. To me, they're sad, because they're not actually interacting with people in realtime, with the richness that tone of voice, etc. adds to communication.

It's bad enough that phones and email deprive us of body language in communication.

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
44. You think I'm sad. Is there a difference there?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:52 PM
Mar 2020

I’m not enumerating why I think it’s sad because it really isn’t my intent to judge.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
45. I explained
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 04:00 PM
Mar 2020

why I think it's sad that people immerse themselves in staring at a screen all day, and no, I don't think that applies to everyone who texts. I certainly didn't mean to apply it to you, since I don't know your frequency of smartphone face time.

However, you found it appropriate to find my blissful lack of texting sad. I'd be interested in your explanation as to why you assign that condition to me, without knowing anything else about my life.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
25. Me too!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

I love texting. I rarely talk on the phone, except to my mom and my child.

I’m using my phone right now! 📲

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
10. I still use paper bags.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:35 PM
Mar 2020

My mother shops at Kroger.

She saves her paper bags from Kroger for me.

I double them and they last on average 3 years.

I keep them in my vehicle.

I use them everywhere I shop.

I have been doing this for 15 years or more.

I hate the plastic bags.

You can pack a paper bag like a suitcase.

The only thing I use plastic bags for is my cat litter.

handmade34

(22,758 posts)
13. paper bag?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:46 PM
Mar 2020

might want to try your own reusable

if it is for the environment...

paper:

-It doesn’t break down any faster than plastic in landfills. That’s because, while paper breaks down much faster under ideal conditions, landfills are not ideal conditions. The lack of light, air and oxygen means pretty much nothing decomposes, so paper and plastic are destined to spend equal amounts of time there.

-Paper bags are bigger than plastic, which means they take up more space in landfills. They’re recycled at a higher rate, which mitigates that fact, but that still means they still have a greater per-bag impact on landfills.

-It takes four times as much energy to manufacture a paper bag, as compared to plastic, and the raw materials have to come from trees, a natural resource that is otherwise carbon-fixing. Making paper bags not only adds waste to the world, it kills one of our greatest tools for fighting pollution.

-Paper bags generate 70 more air pollutants than plastic.

-They generate 50 times more water pollutants than plastic.
It takes 91 percent less energy to recycle a plastic bag than it does a paper bag.
Paper bags are very thick, so shipping them costs more fuel per bag.

marybourg

(12,634 posts)
15. But paper can be used over and over as long as it
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:06 PM
Mar 2020

doesn’t get wet (and I live in the desert). I’ve been using my own cloth bags at the supermarket for about 35 years, but on the rare occasion when I get my hands on a paper bag, I always find multiple uses for it and I think I manage to keep it for 3-4 years before the handles rip off or it rips down the middle.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
19. Yep. I would add that the when it comes to the same number of bags - paper or plastic-
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:11 PM
Mar 2020

that hold the same volume, that paper bags create seven times the amount of waste by weight as do plastic bags.

jimfields33

(15,965 posts)
30. Those cloth bags are not environmentally safe either
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:08 PM
Mar 2020

Washing machine full of water and soap every few days. Plus the children making them is not great.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
52. I've never washed a cloth grocery bag, let alone every few days ... I use 'em for years, too ...
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:17 AM
Mar 2020

You must be a serious clean-freak

Precious few products are 100% environmentally safe ...

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
14. I recently got a large paper bag with handles at Smiths here in town. It was free for nothing
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:57 PM
Mar 2020

and allowed me to carry a heavy load to my car using only one hand. Plus it was free for nothing...
I've saved that bag, it may come in handy again...

WalMart is another story. I go bagless there since they started charging 10 cents each for their "new
improved" plastic bags. Of course all us bagless shoppers need to be scrutinized by two store employees as we exit instead of the former one employee. How's that working out for ya, Wally?

I keep some cash in my wallet to use for my own charitable reasons but for nearly all purchases I
make I use a debit card. I do write one check a month and occasionally for birthday/holiday gifts I mail out. (The apartments where we live only take checks or money orders as rent payment.) It's a simple matter for me to keep track of my credit union accounts online. That works for me. I don't know what my credit score is. I'm in long-time recovery from credit abuse in my younger days. If I don't have the dough then I don't go.

We adapt, we change (or not) and each of us as we see fit.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
16. That's Ok. We've been able to hack into all of your personal records and accounts
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:08 PM
Mar 2020

via your using a computer to post to DU.

Sincerely,

The Hackers

😱

Squinch

(51,014 posts)
17. I use the net bag I remember my grandmother using. That sucker is amazing! It takes up no
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:09 PM
Mar 2020

room in a purse and holds three plastic bags worth of groceries.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
18. It's all fun and games until it rains
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:10 PM
Mar 2020

I was so happy when plastic bags became commonplace because before they came along I lost more groceries to puddles and mud than I care to remember.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
46. My kids are so old they had cloth diapers...yes, they are in their 50s...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 04:12 PM
Mar 2020

I had to rinse out the diaper (in the toilet) if pooped in. Holding on to the diaper, I just flushed off the poop. Then I put the diaper in the plastic diaper holder for washing later. IIRC, the holder was lined with a plastic bag so I could lift it out.

When my kids had kids they used disposable diapers of course.

49. Yep...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:42 PM
Mar 2020

When I was a baby, I had a well worn hand-me-down crib, but Mom said that before that my "bassinet" was a drawer. No such thing as a changing table. Those were the days! Now baby supplies have to be a trillion dollar industry.

yonder

(9,676 posts)
32. I still hate phone calls, but have a smart phone nonetheless.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:11 PM
Mar 2020

I haven't gone completely to the dark side in most other respects.

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
34. Costa Rica Walmart did without bags of any kind without notice
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

Bought $200 (135,000 colones) worth and there were no bags except the reusable ones they sell. It was quite a shock. But once we had them, we use them. CR is going to ban them anyway.

As to Smart Phone. We didn’t think we needed Smart phones until we got one.
Love it. Mr Lake can find tutorials to fix anything, look up parts cuz we lost the owners manual, order parts and deliver them to our door while at the library returning books because I still like books better than Kindle.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
35. I know the feeling...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020

The other day, I walked to the grocery store to pick up a few things. I'ts a nice healthy 1 1/4 mile or so walk. Got to checkout and it didn't strike me at first that all the bag holders for those plastic t-shirt bags were empty.

Thankfully, I had my re-usable bag with me, so no problem.

Other folks were a bit non-plussed. Thinking back, they had been warning us all month that it would kick in Mar 1st, and it did. I didn't always remember in the past to take my bag with me, though I'm getting a lot better. Hope I don't forget going forward. There didn't seem to be a lot of paper bags available either.

One down side. With no bags more people use their carts to haul their purchases to their cars and now there seems to be more shortage as you walk in. Oh well, I figure people will get used to it, including the store clerks whose duty it is to go collect carts from the lot.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
48. We use nothing but paper bags and since we cook pretty much all meals
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:43 PM
Mar 2020

At home, we get lots. They are so useful.

We use the as our garbage can liner in the kitchen.

Put our yard waste on the curb into the because they can be composted with the waste.

Wrap frozen food in them when transporting in a cooler.

The wife will wrap presents in then tied with that straw looking string.

Dry onions and garlic on them.

Carry stuff to goodwill in them.

And many many more. I detest the plastic bags.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
51. My grocery store always has paper bags.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:13 AM
Mar 2020

But now there's a city ordinance that requires them to charge for bags so I bring my cloth bags.

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