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NY healthy 30yr old male physician in worsening condition. (Original Post) dewsgirl Mar 2020 OP
Scary stuff. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #1
I updated the post with another tweet. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #2
No longer is it mainly affecting the old and weak BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #3
I know, I have been seeing these stories coming out of Wuhan dewsgirl Mar 2020 #4
The victim in the OP is in the US. LonePirate Mar 2020 #5
It's has gotten worse than. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #7
Cue DUer's discounting this story in 3, 2, 1,.... Coventina Mar 2020 #6
I checked his account beforehand, it's legit, 2009 with dewsgirl Mar 2020 #8
I fully support you, dewsgirl, your posts on this subject have been impeccable. Coventina Mar 2020 #9
Thank you. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #11
Tomorrow is Monday. LisaL Mar 2020 #10
I really hope so. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #12
Readily available and possibly helpful TheRickles Mar 2020 #18
Dr.John Cambell, often speaks about vitamin D being dewsgirl Mar 2020 #21
Years ago I read about an Australian vet who used IV vit. C to treat Parvo. He claimed he had Karadeniz Mar 2020 #27
I'm completely ignorant in this area, but can someone who is repeatedly exposed get a more deurbano Mar 2020 #13
He was an ophthalmologist, not a dentist. LisaL Mar 2020 #14
Oh, sorry, I remembered that incorrectly. deurbano Mar 2020 #19
That ophthalmologist who was the whistleblower in Wuhan died at only 34. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #28
I wonder about that as well. Some specialists speak about "pathogen load" difference. Sunlei Mar 2020 #17
It seems yet another aspect of this that is unclear: deurbano Mar 2020 #22
That is what I was wondering Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #24
I've been wondering that too, with so many medical people getting seriously ill. n/t Chemisse Mar 2020 #20
I actually subscribed to the WP for the only article I could find when I googled this: deurbano Mar 2020 #23
That's interesting that it's being contemplated. Chemisse Mar 2020 #30
I hope he gets the help he needs. I wonder if a higher exposure to the virus makes it worse? Sunlei Mar 2020 #15
Treatment does not vary whether or not the cause is Corona virus. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #16
He is talking about Gilead that has an anti-viral drug. LisaL Mar 2020 #26
OMFG SunSeeker Mar 2020 #25
"Mostly" attacks only the elderly doesn't mean "only" attacks the elderly... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #29

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
3. No longer is it mainly affecting the old and weak
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:04 PM
Mar 2020

but more cases are being reported that those in their 40s and normally healthy are getting it in Italy too. This will be us in the US soon. What next, kids get it?

"In an alarming development, Dr Nattino said younger patients were being affected, saying the ages of patients ranged from 46 to 83 with only a small number having important underlying conditions. He added: “The last days are showing a younger population involved as if the elderly and weaker part of the population crashed early and now younger patients, having exhausted their physiological reserves, come to overcrowded, overwhelmed hospitals with little resources left.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. I know, I have been seeing these stories coming out of Wuhan
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:09 PM
Mar 2020

for the past 6 weeks, I fear we are about to see, those those stories were all very real. I have followed closely, I saw only one or two stories about children..I pray those were not real. Children and babies do get it, it's supposed to be mild for them. I pray this is the case.
Edit: this guy is in NY.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
7. It's has gotten worse than.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:14 PM
Mar 2020

This is not a good sign.

Actually, Bill Maher was saying on Fri that people who are old die, this is part of life. Sure Bill, but now if kids are getting it, what will your response be? Same goes for the fucking moron's cult members who have junk insur, low pay jobs and no day care when their kids get sick. Will it still be a hoax then?

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
6. Cue DUer's discounting this story in 3, 2, 1,....
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:12 PM
Mar 2020

It's just a flu, it's no big deal, only the old & infirm are at risk.......

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
8. I checked his account beforehand, it's legit, 2009 with
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

a long history of medically related tweets.
You are right, I am sure they will, let them..
..although many have been quiet in this department lately.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
9. I fully support you, dewsgirl, your posts on this subject have been impeccable.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:19 PM
Mar 2020

I was merely waiting for the usual crowd of "it's all hysteria" folks to show up and poo-pooh the story.



on edit: clarity

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
11. Thank you.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:24 PM
Mar 2020
i was serious...let them, I believe this with every fiber of my being. I have talked to several people in Wuhan over the past month, on top of all the personal stories I've read...it's bad.
Edit: I know exactly what you mean, I'm getting used to it.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. Tomorrow is Monday.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:22 PM
Mar 2020

Hopefully they can get the drug from Gilead and the patient makes it to tomorrow.

TheRickles

(2,061 posts)
18. Readily available and possibly helpful
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 08:18 PM
Mar 2020

The clinical trials are just getting started on this treatment in China, but apparently high dose Vitamin C can be helpful. The Chinese trial is with IV infusions, but oral dosing could also deliver enough anti-oxidant impact to minimize damage from the body's response to the virus. That plus selenium supplements are being discussed on natural medicine sites. The data isn't solid, but it couldn't hurt, and if you've got no other options in the meanwhile....

From ClinicalTrials.gov: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04264533

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
21. Dr.John Cambell, often speaks about vitamin D being
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:14 PM
Mar 2020

helpful. He strictly reviews case studies and discusses what may and may not help.

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
27. Years ago I read about an Australian vet who used IV vit. C to treat Parvo. He claimed he had
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:48 PM
Mar 2020

Much better survival rates than the normal 50%. I always wondered if that treatment was tried in the US. Never heard that it was.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
13. I'm completely ignorant in this area, but can someone who is repeatedly exposed get a more
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 08:11 PM
Mar 2020

serious case because of the repeated exposure? I wondered about that after the dentist in China--who was one of the first to warn people about this new virus-- later became sick and died, even though he was in his early thirties and didn't seem to have an underlying condition.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
22. It seems yet another aspect of this that is unclear:
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/health-care-workers-worry-about-coronavirus-protection/2020/03/05/be04d5a8-5e33-11ea-9055-5fa12981bbbf_story.html

<<Melissa Nolan, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at the University of South Carolina, said it’s not clear whether otherwise healthy medical workers are at an increased risk of the most severe complications of coronavirus because of repeated exposure to the illness via their patients. One factor worth considering, she said, is the viral load a nurse or doctor may face.>>

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
23. I actually subscribed to the WP for the only article I could find when I googled this:
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:36 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/health-care-workers-worry-about-coronavirus-protection/2020/03/05/be04d5a8-5e33-11ea-9055-5fa12981bbbf_story.html

<<Melissa Nolan, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at the University of South Carolina, said it’s not clear whether otherwise healthy medical workers are at an increased risk of the most severe complications of coronavirus because of repeated exposure to the illness via their patients. One factor worth considering, she said, is the viral load a nurse or doctor may face.>>

For what it was worth! "Not clear."


Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
30. That's interesting that it's being contemplated.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:04 AM
Mar 2020

I hope you enjoy the subscription; it's the best one to have, imo.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
26. He is talking about Gilead that has an anti-viral drug.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:46 PM
Mar 2020

That might potentially be useful against corona virus. So, yes, treatment could vary.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
29. "Mostly" attacks only the elderly doesn't mean "only" attacks the elderly...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:51 PM
Mar 2020

sad story. Hope he gets help.

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