10:47 am....trump sent out a tweet downplaying the coronavirus...twitter should shut him down

[spanone]

Link to tweet

So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!

[calimary]

1. What does ANY responsible parent do when the kid won't play nicely with his toys?

TAKE HIS TOYS AWAY!!!!!!

[spanone]

3. He's endangering lives. This is hard to believe in a 'president'.

[denem]

18. +1

[usaf-vet]

33. They should have down that years ago. Certainly when he hit the 10,000 lies mark.

Twitter has allowed him to inject a fresh dose of poison into the body politic every day.

[Pachamama]

2. He is a sick and dangerous person

[hlthe2b]

4. Because we have a GD vaccine for it, you moron. Not to mention some minimal carry-over

immunity (albeit insufficient to fully protect) from one year to another. None of which is the case with this intensely infective novel virus.

[spanone]

5. He knows more than the doctors...

[Botany]

12. He has a natural ability for science .... he should have been a doctor.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213054582

[Farmer-Rick]

28. Yeah, idiots forget about developed antibodies and immunity.

Once a virus has spread throughout the population, people develop some immunity to it. A new one is more deadly because no one has developed antibodies to fight it off.

But really 70,000 deaths a year from a virus fully incorporated into a population does NOT make me feel safe. Wow, he really is an idiot.

Oh and his post indicates a 4% death rate from the cornoavirus. I thought it was averaging 3%? When did it go up?

[hlthe2b]

40. WHO still reporting 3.4% overall worldwide. Obviously higher in the highest risk groups.

[aggiesal]

52. Latest Numbers ...

This is from John Hopkins
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Total Deaths: 3,892
Total Confirmed: 111,363

Percentage: 3,892/111,363 = 3.495%

[ScratchCat]

6. He is echoing

What tens of millions of people are thinking right now.

[edhopper]

20. Echoing ignorant Americans

is not what Presidents should do.

[tblue37]

37. Also *influencing* What they are thinking. nt

[Leghorn21]

7. He's right, no schools or universities have shut down, and SXSW didn't shut down, either, so

EVERYTHING’S JUST FINE
THINK ABOUT THAT

[Farmer-Rick]

30. Yeah and the stock market is doing fine and our economy is grrrreat.

[Whiskeytide]

8. What he's failing to account for ...

... is that this virus is exponentially more contagious than any flu strain we’ve experienced. Apparently it is very easily spread through casual contact. Just being in a room with someone coughing is enough to be infected, and reports suggest it remains alive and can be acquired from surface contamination MUCH longer than a flu virus.

That means that more people will become infected over the life of the pandemic, and that more people will likely die. Comparing the mortality rate without also comparing the infection rate and the Ro rate is stupid.

But, of course, it’s Тяцмр, so what should we expect?

[wnylib]

27. So if Trump believes it is so harmless,

why doesn't he do a photo op in a quarantine center? Better yet, in the WA nursing home where people are ill. Show us what a tough guy he is. Not suited up, either, just in street clothes to show that average Americans have nothing to fear. He could be the image of our brave hero.

[Farmer-Rick]

34. Yeah, Trump's such a baby. The Chinese president visited the quarantined. He wasn't afraid

But Trump hasn't visited any of the sick and quarantined. He is afraid to.

[Tanuki]

41. He wouldn't even go to the CDC office when there was a suspicion that one employee

might have been infected. Once there was an "all clear" on that, the visit was back "on" again.

[wnylib]

48. So he is just as fearful about

himself as the rest of us are about our chances of getting sick. He can choose where to go and set up protective barriers for himself. We can't.

So whatever he says about this virus in relation to the general population is as worthless as he is.

[brewens]

29. I've worked with people that were sick many times and never worried about it much. Never

got sick either, but this is different. We don't know enough about it because it's new. I just heard it can also cause permanent lung damage. I suspect that applies to only the high risk patients that have a severe case, but they didn't make that clear. Knowing what you don't know is a big part of being intelligent.

[dhol82]

31. Yeah, they develop pulmonary fibrosis.

That’s what kills them.
If they don’t die they are permanently damaged.

[blogslut]

9. I hope this means he's at the bargaining phase

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

[world wide wally]

10. That's like saying millions of people die every year, so why outlaw crack and heroin?

[Farmer-Rick]

35. Exactly

[Botany]

11. Good God in Butter

Italy went from 30 cases to 3,000 cases in two weeks.

[Jarqui]

14. Italy 7375 cases today from 3 or so on Feb 22

It climbs exponentially unless unless they do significant quarantine - which is now what Italy is attempting to do.

The longer you wait to quarantine, the harder it will be to achieve.

This is beyond Trump's ability to comprehend because he is so fixated on what he perceives is best for himself personally. If he'd handled the coronavirus well, it would have helped him but he's too stupid to realize that.

[Botany]

15. One of "things" that makes this disease so insidious is that you can spread the disease for ...

... 2 weeks before you show any symptoms and they don't know if you have the disease once
if you then develop immunity to the disease in the future.

God, I miss Obama.

[Jarqui]

16. and that it can be transmitted so easily

the man in New Rochelle NY whose family picks him up at the airport, takes Uber home, Rabbi & MD friend visit. They all have it plus the MD's practice is shutdown with it.

Last night I heard of a family gathering where they had one meal together - and now all have it.

SARS wasn't infectious until you had the symptoms.

Last night, on MSNBC, the doctor who identified it and gives it a 90% chance it came from bats in Wuhan market said it will be around until we have a vaccine. It will come back year after year.

PS: I miss Obama too.

[Julian English]

13. Twenty Fifth Amendment Time #TFA N/T

[spanone]

17. Way past time IMHO

[Victor_c3]

19. That works out to a 4% death rate

When does a typical flue kill 4% of the Americans it infects?

[AlexSFCA]

26. yep, think about that!

tweets like this will sink the stock market cause he is forcing epidemic into pandemic

[rurallib]

21. a lump of coal would be a better president

[Smackdown2019]

22. Hmmm

Let's see....

A nasty cold. .... get good drugs to get over it

Flu..... roll with the punch and seek help....

C-19. No drugs yet and it is in its infancy stage without any knowledge of it or testing.

It's like it's a pyramid.... but upside down... if you think 70,000 flu deaths are acceptable... you are a person without care to people......!

Most of those 70k deaths are mostly elderly with outlying health conditions... this new virus attacks anyone.

Only Tweet I want to read from you for now on is.....


Is your good bye!

[jayschool2013]

23. Nearly 40,000 people die every year

in gun-related deaths. Nothing is shut down, life (for most) & the economy go on.

See how that works, Twitler? I, too, can compare two only slightly related things and make it seem important.

Dumbass.

[Mr.Bill]

24. Imagine how many would die from the flu if millions didn't get flu shots.

And there is no vaccine for the Coronavirus.

[Sloumeau]

25. The corona virus is roughly 34 times as deadly as the common flu.

If only Trump could do math properly. If he could, he could take 27,000 and multiply it by 34.

[lame54]

32. Actually I need this explained...

Several at work have the same reasoning and I dont have a comeback as to why this is different

[SunSeeker]

46. Covid-19 is a lot more contagious and deadly, and we don't have a vaccine for it.

And Trump is s lying about the numbers of course.

There have between 12,000 – 61,000 flu deaths annually since 2010, NOT 27,000-70,000. 

How do we know there's only 22 Covid-19 deaths in the US? We're NOT TESTING.  

Ominously, "flu deaths" are dramatically up in the new year: CDC says flu deaths are up more than 65% so far in 2020, with the CDC reporting that 4,800 people had died and 87,000 people had been hospitalized.

[lame54]

49. I can't take that to them...

Flu deaths is their firewall

This is "hyped up" because it's theoretical

It has to actually happen before they MIGHT believe it

[SunSeeker]

50. That's like saying I don't believe a tsunami is coming until it washes over me.

They are idiots. Ask them if they will give you their hand sanitizer, since they don't think they need it.

[lame54]

51. Now thats a good approach

[SunSeeker]

62. I feel like this guy, warning his neighbors that a tsunami is coming, then sobbing as they die.

[Duncan Grant]

54. Hospital staff resources and ICU bed space

Flu: Millions of us get an annual flu vaccination (Influenza A & B). This protects the public from mass infections that would otherwise overwhelm our community health resources. Therefore, there’s no need for community containment measures or quarantines.

COVID-19: There is no vaccine available for this virus. What happens if there’s no vaccine? What happens when no one has immunity to this disease? Everyone is now susceptible to a disease worse than Influenza A & B. If the rate of transmission isn’t controlled through containment or quarantine, community health care systems are overrun to the point of collapse or failure.

At this point, our best strategy is limit exposure to the virus and slow the rate of transmission. Otherwise, your friends at work will seek treatment at your local hospital for respiratory failure and find there are no beds available and the hospital staff (doctors, nurses, technical staff, receptionists, janitorial, maintenance, etc.) has been overwhelmed through illness or complete physical exhaustion. A nightmare scenario.

Try telling them that.

[lame54]

55. They attribute that to the hype...

And the world going crazy

And dear leader is encouraging that thought

Flu deaths is their firewall

Normally I dont care that they can't be reached

But this time we need everybody's cooperation

[Duncan Grant]

57. I hope you're not working at a nuclear power plant.

Your coworkers are worse than fools; they’re idiots. Good luck to you.

[lame54]

58. Don't kid yourself...

They're around you too

Trump's influence is truly frightening

[Duncan Grant]

60. Trump's influence is not truly frightening. There is no Republican Party in my state.

Do your best to prepare yourself and your coworkers for what’s coming. Peace be with you.

[Mersky]

61. See my comment, #59

Maybe it’ll work? It’s kinda lengthy, but the upshot is short: .5 flu deaths vs. 22 coronavirus deaths

[D_Master81]

36. Nothing says calm like

Mentioning more people die of something else. Lets be real this is more about stabilizing the market than leading the country through the uncertainty of this new virus.

[pnwmom]

38. And the coronavirus fatality rate is up to 34 times higher. So a year from now

we could be looking at over 1,250,000 deaths.

[moonseller66]

39. Wait until someone tells him he could get...

the virus from some of his cult at one of his rallies! You'll see his (un)likeness on a big screen (maybe even pre-recorded) behind a podium. And "the*masses ' (them asses) will believe whatever BS he tells them as they cough and gag and pass it on to their kids and friends and relatives and mistresses...

[Traildogbob]

42. Ground Zero

I would think the most dangerous Petri dish venues are trump KKKlan Jamborees, NASCAR, and Churches. Lots of gapping mouths, hollering and spewing spray, non vaccers, pray the virus away, and many willing to spread the deaths so God will rapture THEM to paradise. All his fav peeps, so God willing he will get it, Ivanka will be next for obvious reason, and Melania probably the safest in the KKKlan of swine. No touching between this 2 Ho's.

[Claritie Pixie]

43. Apples and oranges, Idiot. 🤬

[SunSeeker]

44. He is lying about the numbers of course.

There have between 12,000 – 61,000 flu deaths annually since 2010, NOT 27,000-70,000.

How do we know there's only 22 Covid-19 deaths in the US? We're NOT TESTING. 

Ominously, "flu deaths" are dramatically up in the new year: CDC says flu deaths are up more than 65% so far in 2020, with the CDC reporting that 4,800 people had died and 87,000 people had been hospitalized.

[spanone]

45. Precisely.

[LudwigPastorius]

47. This is worse than having no one at the helm.

That blithering, sack of shit actually asked the experts at the CDC why they couldn't just give everyone a flu shot to stop the coronavirus. He still thinks it's "just a flu".

Maybe somebody can sit down with flash cards and explain to him that the average person with seasonal flu infects 1.3 people, while the average person with covid-19 infects 2.8. And, that the death rate from the flu is 0.1%, while the estimated death rate of the coronavirus is 3.4%.

*Naaah...he would tune out as soon as he realized that someone was trying to tell him something that wasn't about him*

[Thomas Hurt]

53. 37000 dead is cool...37001 is not?

sick f**k

[spanone]

56. Not a word of condolences for the victims. The man is soul-less. 100%

[Mersky]

59. If this were the flu, half a person would have died at this point - far less than 22.

Is why public education, competent governance, and faithful leadership is so important. tRump’s tweet is like the hucksterism that lands people with poor oil and gas lease terms when they are lead to think that a 1/16 share is worth more than 1/4. He was likely given sheets of numbers and statistics then knowingly cobbled this together to sell a fraud of life and death consequences to the general public. Certainly, some of his underlings know the truth, and shame on them for letting the pResident present these figures in this way.

From his stated numbers, 22 deaths for 546 confirmed cases is a 4.0% death rate. If this coronovirus was the common flu with a 0.1% death rate*, then only half of one person (.546) would be dead at this point.

22 Coronavirus deaths vs .5 flu deaths - that’s the real comparison that the pResident of the United States should care about.

Twitter should pull his tweet.

Now, all this said, it is hopefully early in its spread and with more/better testing the 4% death rate should fall some. The pResident hiding the truth isn’t helping the public understand how to handle this disease.


*Retrieved this rate from Wikipedia (3/9/20 @ 12:32 pm CT), as tRump’s numbers do not reflect the reality he’s intentionally withholding. Need to note that I rounded down and kept it at half a person, to make the relative magnitude more relatable - still more accurate than what the pResident is suggesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

[slater71]

63. Twitter is now majority owned by some one named Elliott. Big right winger.

WE will be shut down not the republicans. Another attempt pulled off to own everything just like the Nazi`s. Wake up people before it is to late.

[7wo7rees]

64. Next up.......? Suspension of election in Nivember. N/T

[Skittles]

65. what part of THERE IS NO CORONAVIRUS VACCINE does he not understand

HE IS SO FUCKING STUPID