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Iwasthere

(3,513 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:43 PM Mar 2020

How long can he get away with hiding the numbers? I am baffled

States need to start acting on their own, full testing, imo. I think it's likely worse here than Italy, and they shut their country down!

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How long can he get away with hiding the numbers? I am baffled (Original Post) Iwasthere Mar 2020 OP
He will never back down. Never does. leftieNanner Mar 2020 #1
I believe I've also seen headlines that Washington and New York states have also RockRaven Mar 2020 #2
I know that in NYS, only one lab has been ok' by the feds. Crunchy Frog Mar 2020 #16
I hate to say it, but the country we are mirroring the actions dewsgirl Mar 2020 #3
Do you think the death statistics here in the U.S. are greater than Mike 03 Mar 2020 #4
The problem is not enough testing. We don't know the extent of the infection. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #5
I'm expecting the numbers to explode as the testing rolls out. nt Mike 03 Mar 2020 #6
If/when the testing really start a going right now the US dewsgirl Mar 2020 #21
Certainly not...but it's all we have. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #10
coronavirus distribution hubs ... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #11
GOP only cares about money - mass deaths of folks over 60 AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #14
We are in serious trouble, I fear.. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #20
I Believe The States Are Reporting Deaths And Not The Feds.... global1 Mar 2020 #17
Share this info in your area OhNo-Really Mar 2020 #7
That's one of the scariest things I've read so far. Mike 03 Mar 2020 #9
I wouldn't be surprised to see him attempting a stop of states publicizing their numbers Iwasthere Mar 2020 #8
I expect Schumer and Pelosi to do something about that. C-span? get the experts doing a presser Amaryllis Mar 2020 #12
how can states get the test kits? AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #13
Why couldn't they just order directly from the WHO? Crunchy Frog Mar 2020 #18
What's hiding the numbers is the lack of test kits Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #15
That's what I meant Iwasthere Mar 2020 #19

leftieNanner

(16,171 posts)
1. He will never back down. Never does.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:45 PM
Mar 2020

It's up to the states to handle this. If he won't let the CDC act, then it's out of the feds hands. Stanford University has developed a test, so the governors need to work with them.

This is sick! No pun intended.

RockRaven

(19,757 posts)
2. I believe I've also seen headlines that Washington and New York states have also
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:49 PM
Mar 2020

developed their own tests because of the inability to rely on the feds.

Crunchy Frog

(28,299 posts)
16. I know that in NYS, only one lab has been ok' by the feds.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

As far as I'm aware, both states still have testing criteria that keep them from testing the vast majority of potential cases.

They should both just act as if the federal government doesn't even exist, for purposes of dealing with this virus.

dewsgirl

(14,965 posts)
3. I hate to say it, but the country we are mirroring the actions
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:50 PM
Mar 2020

of, is Iran....that is a very bad thing. Their actual death numbers are hundreds more than their official CFR. This has been leaked by several Iranian doctors. They tried the same crap by pretending it wasn't a big deal, until one day it got ahead of them, this will happen here.
Rachel Maddow covered this last night, her A block totally worth it. Sorry this is only the podcast, I can't find any video.



Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
4. Do you think the death statistics here in the U.S. are greater than
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:53 PM
Mar 2020

we're being told? (I mean, on purpose, deliberately distorted as opposed to undiagnosed cases where people die and they think it's something else?) And the infection numbers?

I've been relying on the NYT tracker. But do you think it's accurate?

dewsgirl

(14,965 posts)
21. If/when the testing really start a going right now the US
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:57 PM
Mar 2020

with a few exceptions is operating under a Don't test, Don't tell policy.
I had someone the other day swear there no cases in their state, just because they aren't confirmed doesn't mean they aren't there and likely being misdiagnosed.

dewsgirl

(14,965 posts)
10. Certainly not...but it's all we have.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:04 PM
Mar 2020

Think about all the seaports/airports throughout this country, they have only banned travel from China and that's air travel. On Morning Joe yesterday, a researcher was quoted, there are likely at least 20,000 cases in the US by now, another researcher I read about, thinks 9,000.
It seems the blue states other than Colorado(whole other issue there), are really trying, the red states are seriously up Trump's ass. I am in Florida, we have a huge at risk population in a state that depends in tourism dollars, we are driving 1000mph into a brick wall here.
Last night Rachel covered the dangers of what this POS administration is doing, like how the CDC wanted a travel ban on all those over the age of 60, but they wouldn't allow it. Sorry, I couldn't find video, it's the podcast, her A block is totally worth your time.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
11. coronavirus distribution hubs ...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:14 PM
Mar 2020

A couple of weeks ago, I was telling family and friends that seaports and airports are coronavirus distribution centers. Now it includes churches, malls, stores, theaters, sporting events and campaign rallies.

It's insane that you have to practically prove you have the virus before you can get tested. This stupid policy will enable rapid spread.

We're on our own.

AlexSFCA

(6,321 posts)
14. GOP only cares about money - mass deaths of folks over 60
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

means no social security or medicare spending.

global1

(26,507 posts)
17. I Believe The States Are Reporting Deaths And Not The Feds....
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

so I believe that numbers are accurate.

Iwasthere

(3,513 posts)
8. I wouldn't be surprised to see him attempting a stop of states publicizing their numbers
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:58 PM
Mar 2020

The idiot is going to get thousands killed. Blood's on his hands

Amaryllis

(11,430 posts)
12. I expect Schumer and Pelosi to do something about that. C-span? get the experts doing a presser
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020

where they put the cards on the table?

AlexSFCA

(6,321 posts)
13. how can states get the test kits?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

the whole thing feels like a corporate scheme led by Labcorp and Quest.

Jersey Devil

(10,859 posts)
15. What's hiding the numbers is the lack of test kits
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

CDC won't lie about the numbers. But they don't know what the real numbers are because not enough people are being tested. I suspect Trump doesn't really want those test kits readily available.

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