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[Hiawatha Pete]

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[Hoyt]

1. Ammosexuals would freak out with 5 round limits on magazines. Good idea.

Let them whine. And it’s a relatively easy approach.

[crono]

47. hey hoyt

what do you call a homosexual that owns/collects firearms?

[aikoaiko]

2. I'm ok with a limit of 30 rounds.

[Hoyt]

5. Never know when a gunner might want to shoot up a kindergarten.

[friendly_iconoclast]

11. ...or defend themselves against an assault by a delusional, would-be vigilante:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x471995

[Hoyt]

14. Yeah, you'll need a 30 round mag for that. You gunners always have some paranoid

rationalization for your gunz.

[friendly_iconoclast]

18. How very statesman-like of you-almost Presidential, as it were...

[Dirty Socialist]

12. I'm all for it n/m

[somaticexperiencing]

3. Very sensible. Can we be that sensible? To live? And then there are these points from

another person from another county supposed to be our ally. I think they're hilarious, and good points.

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[somaticexperiencing]

20. Thank you for your post!

[VOX]

23. Terrific!

Thanks for posting those.

[somaticexperiencing]

49. Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.

[crickets]

48. Fantastic. nt

[somaticexperiencing]

50. Thank you!

[hack89]

8. The flaw in that argument

Is that there are 100’s of millions of large capacity magazines in America right now. They are not going to disappear overnight once a law is passed - assuming such a law can be passed.

[hack89]

13. You need to look at NY compliance rates

Passing a law doesn't mean they go away. The people you need to worry about don't care about such laws. If they are willing to kill people than a misdemeanor penalty is no deterrent.

[Hoyt]

15. So Hack, are you saying you gunners aren't so law-abiding as you keep saying.

Besides, gotta start somewhere.

[hack89]

16. The people you need to worry about are not law abiding

Doesn't matter if 90% of gun owners turn in their mags if all the violent ones don't. And let's not forget that all the illegal gun owners don't care about breaking another law..

[Hoyt]

17. Disagree, but you guys always have a BS argument to protect your weapons.

[friendly_iconoclast]

19. No BS, just considered responses to Trumped-up word salad....

[hack89]

22. That's the problem with anti- gun performance art such as yours

You end up in positions impervious to logic.

[k2qb3]

21. No nuclear weapons...

Government agencies operating domestically have been exempt from every gun ban going back to the beginning, and still in force from the NFA forward.

That's always been the problem, that blatant violation of the letter and the spirit of the Constitution so law enforcement could have its suppressed full auto SBRs and incendiaries, maybe the odd armed APV. If it hadn't been for those exemptions we would have settled what were and were not reasonable restrictions on defensive weaponry 80 years ago. It's not a difficult thing.

Now there aren't hundreds of millions of magazines in the US, there are billions of them. All these technical regulations have ever done is put law abiding people in legal jeopardy...and sell a lot of weapons.

Oh yeah, and lose some very critical elections. The last federal AWB gave us Gingrich and W, how many lives did that cost?

[mitch96]

26. I like Chris Rock's idea... BAN BULLETS!!! nt

[mitch96]

33. "George Orwell, the figure in your quote"

Wrong guy...... I quoted Chris Rock about gun control...

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[crono]

35. already law

in California. you cant buy ammo without proper ID and a background check, paid for out of your pocket.

[mitch96]

37. I'm cool with that.. Also registration, training and testing.. .JUST LIKE A CAR... nt

[mitch96]

43. "I also think our policies are workable and save lives."

ANYTHING that will reduce mass shootings.. The wacko's are out there. They are gonna do what they are gonna do.. If someone is going to kill lots of people quickly would they choose a gun or a knife. I've seen countries with strict gun laws have wacko's killing people with what is available.. A knife or a car/truck.They kill far fewer people than with a gun..
We aren't going to ban knives or cars but we can do something..... anything to stop mass shootings..... YMMV
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[crono]

41. list of mass shootings in Ca.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shootings_in_California

start at 2015 when the laws were passed. still cool with it?

[mitch96]

53. Progress not perfection.. Anything that will save a life is OK by me.... YMMV........

You pro gun 2nd amendment?
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[crono]

54. just a simple

homo who believes in the right to self defense.

[mitch96]

55. I thought the PC term is "Gay"

Or for the gun loving members of the group.. AmmoSexual...
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[crono]

56. so you're

saying ammosexual is a derogatory term for gays?

[mitch96]

38. You know you don't have to delete your post, just edit it... we all screw up sometimes.. nt

[crono]

29. we already do that in many states

Nine states and the District of Columbia have enacted laws banning large capacity ammunition magazines: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Vermont. All of these jurisdictions except Colorado and Vermont also ban assault weapons.

you cant even buy ammo in California without proper ID and a background check.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shootings_in_California

2015 San Bernardino attack San Bernardino December 2, 2015 16 24 Terrorist attack at the workplace

2017 Fresno shooting spree Fresno April 18, 2017 4 African-American man randomly targeted white victims at several locations

Rancho Tehama Reserve shootings Tehama County November 13/14, 2017 6 18 Shooting spree across 8 locations

Thousand Oaks shooting Thousand Oaks November 7, 2018 13 10+ Mass shooting at a restaurant

Tulare County spree shooting Tulare County December 16, 2018 3 7 Shooting spree in several locations

Poway synagogue shooting Poway April 27, 2019 1 3 Antisemitic terrorist attack inspired by the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting and the Christchurch, NZ mosque shootings

Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting Gilroy July 28, 2019 4 12 Mass shooting

Fresno party shooting Fresno November 17, 2019 4 6 A group of family and friends were gathered in a backyard Sunday to watch a football game when two gunmen sneaked into the yard and began shooting

[crono]

32. im saying

as a Californian i would love if our laws were more like yours. there would be fewer restrictions. most of those firearms that were used would be considered illegal in California.

i also believe other factors were involved, what they could be i have no clue.

[crono]

46. understood

my bad

[jmg257]

42. I'm not sure if the 5 rounds would be the "acceptable"

Cut-off capacity. NY tried 7rnds and that was struck down as arbitrary, so it became 10rnds.

You would certainly need to avoid the grandfather allowances- as mentioned millions and millions of mags are out there. Even during the federal AWB those built before ‘94 were legal to purchase and own.

NY’s Safe-act attempts sort of makes such guns and mags will be a 1 generation thing - for those who complied. You can have them but they must be registered - and are untransferrable.

The types of penalties for violating the magazine possession laws you describe will indeed need to be harsh, if owners are expected to turn them in. Also, LE would have to agree to enforce them.

[rurallib]

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