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CountAllVotes

(20,875 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:01 PM Mar 2020

Pope Says Trump 'Is Not Christian'

Donald Trump has feuded with other candidates, reporters and TV networks during his run for president.

Now, the front-runner for the Republican nomination is feuding with Pope Francis.

On Thursday, the pontiff criticized Trump for the proposal at the heart of his campaign: a pledge to keep people from crossing into the United States illegally by building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.

"I'd just say that this man is not Christian if he said it in this way," Francis told reporters in a midflight press conference after a trip to Mexico.

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," Francis said, according to The Associated Press' translation of the press conference.

Trump wasted no time firing back. "If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS's ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened," Trump said in a statement released by his campaign.

"For a religious leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful."

https://www.npr.org/2016/02/18/467229313/pope-says-trump-is-not-christian

Disgraceful?

This is what ye ol' pussygrabber has to say?

Wow what a punch in the gut to those evangelicals! Ha!!

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Pope Says Trump 'Is Not Christian' (Original Post) CountAllVotes Mar 2020 OP
Time for trump to attack Pope Frank and Catholics. JDC Mar 2020 #1
has the pope said this recently? this story is from February 18, 2016 trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #15
I hate when that happens....I completely missed the date JDC Mar 2020 #16
It's OK. I had never heard of it. And I welcome all anti-Trump information and I love Maraya1969 Mar 2020 #17
NPR is a highly regarded source! CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #24
I am sure the pope feels the same now. Doreen Mar 2020 #29
Only trump would feud with the Pope ..... CatMor Mar 2020 #2
"Those evangelicals" are mostly rabidly anti-Catholic Glorfindel Mar 2020 #3
I have respect for pope Francis CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #11
Say what? MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #4
I think that issue is addressed in Two Corinthians. n/t Permanut Mar 2020 #25
Don't you mean MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #33
I stand corrected.. Permanut Mar 2020 #34
Oh, yeah! MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #36
so....ISIS's main goal... dhill926 Mar 2020 #5
Questioning one's faith is disgraceful. That's rich coming from somebody who questioned the faith Eugene Mar 2020 #6
Pope is correct! BTW, this is from 2016... winstars Mar 2020 #7
I'm sure that Donnie's tweet will play well with irreligious reactionaries Vogon_Glory Mar 2020 #8
As an atheist I'm laughing and hoping for a Trump tweet. Shaddox Mar 2020 #9
Article is four years old. stopbush Mar 2020 #10
So what CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #12
For one thing, the pope met with tRump after he said that. stopbush Mar 2020 #13
Did he confess his sins? CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #23
So... after something, therefore because of something? LanternWaste Mar 2020 #41
"For a religious leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful." Marcuse Mar 2020 #14
The Pope didn't "question Trump's faith". He made ooky Mar 2020 #18
Why post something from February 2016? Trump wasn't even president then. scarletwoman Mar 2020 #19
As a reformed Catholic DVRacer Mar 2020 #20
My in-laws are extra super Roman Catholic misanthrope Mar 2020 #21
Exactly how would a wall on the Mexican border save the Vatican from ISIS? AJT Mar 2020 #22
Evangelicals don't care what the pope says, and this article is from 2016 jberryhill Mar 2020 #26
And 45 is trying to woo Catholics now. Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #27
Fake newz flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #28
Dolt45 is such a dumbass. ISIS doesn't care about the Vatican any more than he does. RockRaven Mar 2020 #30
the pope should have said he just had a HUNCH that Trump was not a Christian. Captain Zero Mar 2020 #31
The pope is clearly right duforsure Mar 2020 #32
It doens't count! To Evangelicals the Pope is Satan! Dread Pirate Roberts Mar 2020 #35
"Wow what a punch in the gut to those evangelicals!" Evangelicals do not follow the pope. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2020 #37
Maybe they aren't his followers CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #38
No, they actively reject anything he says. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2020 #40
They are right to lifers CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #42
That sure should help his Catholic rally in Milwaukee next week malaise Mar 2020 #39

trueblue2007

(17,223 posts)
15. has the pope said this recently? this story is from February 18, 2016
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:28 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
17. It's OK. I had never heard of it. And I welcome all anti-Trump information and I love
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:51 PM
Mar 2020

to spread it around.

CountAllVotes

(20,875 posts)
24. NPR is a highly regarded source!
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:54 PM
Mar 2020

Credibility is very important when it comes to elections, like the one tonight as we know!

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
3. "Those evangelicals" are mostly rabidly anti-Catholic
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:07 PM
Mar 2020

and believe the Pope is the anti-Christ personified. The only thing these two wings of "Christianity" have in common is their insane opposition to a woman's right to control her own body.

CountAllVotes

(20,875 posts)
11. I have respect for pope Francis
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mar 2020

I do not agree with all of his views but I see he hasn't offered to forgive his sins nor hear his confession for it would be a waste of time and effort.

What the pope needs is a qualified exorcist to to an exorcism on this evil piece of trash from HELL!



MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
4. Say what?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:07 PM
Mar 2020
"For a religious leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful."

Isn't this the same guy that doubted that Speaker Pelosi would be praying for him?

Maybe somebody should say, "For a world leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful."

Anybody wanna' wait for the first religious leader or Republican to issue such a statement?

Permanut

(5,610 posts)
34. I stand corrected..
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 09:21 AM
Mar 2020

Or maybe it was in Adverbs, Artesians or Galoshes. One of the epistles of the Apostles.

Eugene

(61,899 posts)
6. Questioning one's faith is disgraceful. That's rich coming from somebody who questioned the faith
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:07 PM
Mar 2020

of Nancy Pelosi and Mitt Romney for living by their Christian principles.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
8. I'm sure that Donnie's tweet will play well with irreligious reactionaries
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:12 PM
Mar 2020

and certain Evangelicals. Those church-going politically-conservative Catholics that voted for him in 2016, not so much.

Marcuse

(7,487 posts)
14. "For a religious leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful."
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:21 PM
Mar 2020

Questioning a person’s faith is part of the job. Previous Popes were even more inquisitive.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
18. The Pope didn't "question Trump's faith". He made
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:00 PM
Mar 2020

a simple observation. Anyone can easily make the same observation.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
19. Why post something from February 2016? Trump wasn't even president then.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:01 PM
Mar 2020

In any case, trump visited the Vatican and met with the Pope in May 2017.

Furthermore, evangelicals wouldn't give a rip about whatever the Pope says, since most of them don't even consider Catholics to be Christian.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
20. As a reformed Catholic
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:06 PM
Mar 2020

Not defending the dumbass in chief

I’d ask ol pedophile protector what are those tall structures surrounding Vatican City?

misanthrope

(7,417 posts)
21. My in-laws are extra super Roman Catholic
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:09 PM
Mar 2020

Very proud of all the nuns and priests in their proliferate and locally prominent clan. When they needed annulments, it was done swiftly and quietly, because they have such pull with the archdiocese.

I've been amazed watching the depth of their belief and the customs in which they engage. Raised as a Baptist and now an agnostic, I observe it with fascination.

They are also upper middle class, white Southerners who fulfill the stereotypes that accompany such. They worship the Pope above all others with Trump not far behind. I watch the contortions as they try to rationalize these statements because I fully expect a number of them to take sides against the Pope more openly as time passes.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
22. Exactly how would a wall on the Mexican border save the Vatican from ISIS?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:14 PM
Mar 2020

Or is he threatening to pay for an ISIS attack on the Vatican?

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
30. Dolt45 is such a dumbass. ISIS doesn't care about the Vatican any more than he does.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:11 AM
Mar 2020

Dump and ISIS leadership probably both have a vague notion that the Vatican, and Rome, is a tremendous bigly deal, but neither Dump nor a random ISIS-guy could find it on an unmarked map without help. "Ultimate trophy?" Oh, please...

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
32. The pope is clearly right
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:22 AM
Mar 2020

As trump shows everyone how he does by lying claiming he's religious when even people at his church say he isn't too. Just like he claims he's so smart , but hides all his school records but his teachers says he was a dumb ass, and his health claim is the same. He gets a Dr. to say he's so healthy when everyone knows he isn't and just another lie from trump. You can't be a christian doing the things he's done , and is doing.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
35. It doens't count! To Evangelicals the Pope is Satan!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 09:42 AM
Mar 2020

Plus I never knew that the Jesuits killed Kennedy. The stuff you can learn from comic books!



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CountAllVotes

(20,875 posts)
38. Maybe they aren't his followers
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

But they know what he is saying, it *trickles* down to them one way or the other, that you can believe in!

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