I predict Trump will resign before October

[intrepidity]

Last edited Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:43 PM - Edit history (1)

Could be sooner, much sooner. He will walk away and leave this mess in Pence's lap.

Bookmark it.

ETA: It's disheartening to see so many in this thread who are assuming a "business-as-usual" backdrop to this prediction and our near-term future. I foresee massive disruption to our country from covid19, exacerbated by the critical delay in response, which has pivoted us from potential containment to merely mitigation. Disruption is a huge key factor.

[durablend]

1. Not going to happen

He leaves office, the ton of legal bricks comes crashing down on him.

[Wednesdays]

12. True, that.

Although he could turn himself into "president on paper only," and spend the rest of the term golfing.

[True Blue American]

64. He already

Does that!

[guillaumeb]

2. Who did you pick in the Super Bowl?

One hopes that you are correct in this prediction.

[intrepidity]

11. I don't follow football

I'm certain of this.

That assumes that he doesn't die from Covid-19 first, which is an altogether reasonable prediction as well.

[Turbineguy]

3. Only with a guarantee of a pardon.

[lame54]

7. There's always NY State

[Turbineguy]

18. He'll need that too.

[Aristus]

4. Never.

I like your optimism. But never.

People say he never quits; he does all the time in the form of declaring bankruptcy. But one can do that in relative privacy. POTUS is the most visible position in the world. Quitting where everyone can see his failure is not something he's going to do voluntarily.

[intrepidity]

15. He will. Today is the first day that I've thought so.

Just like a bankruptcy.

[pwb]

5. He hates losing so maybe when he sees he has no chance?

He is a quitter.

[intrepidity]

25. Exactly.

He will frame it as doing so for the good of the country, and that Pence is most qualified to lead the country through this crisis (and he'll take credit for that, because he appointed Pence to lead the virus response).

Within a matter of days, reality is going to hit Don hard between the eyes, and he will cut and run, like always.

He will disappear to some remote safehouse where he can't be extradited and where he thinks the virus can't get him. Saddam's hidey hole, if you will.

[LonePirate]

49. Bingo! If he is told he has no chance to win in November, he will step down before the election.

He will probably cite health reasons. Of course, the election will need to resemble the outlook for Republicans in the November 2008 election for there to be a chance he sees the writing in the wall and asks someone to read it to him.

[tblue37]

6. No, b/c he fears indictment of he isn't in office. He'd only resign if guaranteed a pardon,

but a pardon won't protect him from state indictments.

[LibfromtheNorth]

13. +1

This..

[intrepidity]

27. He will disappear himself. nt

[uponit7771]

75. +1, those taxes must look horrible

[Totally Tunsie]

8. Hoping he'll be dead before then.

[2naSalit]

23. +1

[ploppy]

26. I like the way you think!

[Ilsa]

59. Him and a few other people with his name.

They wanted this, too. They wanted him in power so they could grift.

[Funtatlaguy]

82. Please don't post this. I know ur kidding, but you don't know who is monitoring.

[Totally Tunsie]

84. Kidding???

Well, of course I'm "kidding"!

If you can believe Chump, you can believe me.

[USALiberal]

9. LOL, ok! nt

[intrepidity]

28. Bookmark it. nt

[USALiberal]

70. No need to! nt

[intrepidity]

71. I will PM you at that time, then

[USALiberal]

72. :-) I hope you are right but no chance. nt

[Bonx]

10. This sounds familiar...

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+will+resign&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com

[onenote]

20. Yep. DUers have been predicting Trump would quit since before the election

There were those who predicted he'd drop out before the Republican Convention. Or right after the convention. Or before the debates. Or before election day. Or after election day but before the Electoral College vote was final. Or before inauguration day. Or after inauguration day. Or before the Mueller report. Or before the impeachment vote. And on and on and on.

[intrepidity]

32. If you can't see why this time is different,

then you may not be paying close enough attention.

Bookmark it.

[onenote]

40. Done

[Brainfodder]

14. I think he could die any day, he looks that bad at times to me.

I've caught other clues on people actually in my orbit, and was right on both.

He's hiding his medical records as tight as anything?

Where are those leaks when we deserve them?

I don't wish him well either, he's gone off a cliff toward public safety and you do that, I'll have
no Susan Collins left for you.

[RKP5637]

22. Could be. He looks like SH**!!! n/t

[sarisataka]

16. We have had predictions of Trump quitting

For more than 4 years now. It is obvious how accurate those have been.

But I bookmarked it....

[intrepidity]

35. That's all I ask, thanks.

This time is fundamentally different.

[sarisataka]

92. It is October 7...

Just sayin'...

[uppityperson]

17. The old "it's not fun or fair anymore " excuse

[Thomas Hurt]

19. Your optimism is amazing, alas, I fear you are going to be heartbroken...

I don't believe he will leave voluntarily. It would be wonderous to see him dragged out of the WH and thrown into a limo like an entitled party boy who overstayed his welcome at a nightclub.

[Awsi Dooger]

21. Let's return to the real world...hoping his approval rating continues to drop

Down to 42.3% on 538 today after being as high as 44.6% about a month ago.

That number is everything. A 1-point drop is more meaningful than anything related to turnout. In fact I would happily cancel every Democratic turnout operation in exchange for that number frozen at 40% on election day

[Turin_C3PO]

34. Do you think he can win

with an approval rating below 45%? An article I read seemed to think that 45% is the magic number that will ensure he’s not re-elected.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

45. I didn't think he'd win in 2016.

So I'm a bad person to ask that question.

However, I keep sticking pins in my Fat Donnie plush toy...

[genxlib]

51. I think that magic number sounds right

Except...

disapproval is not the same thing as vote against.

I think there are many cynical moderate conservatives who do not approve of him but will vote for him just to keep the power.

[empedocles]

65. I like your approval rating marker/indicator. Could be markedly lower by November

[Don't think he'll resign, even with very low poll numbers]

[Initech]

24. Not gonna happen.

The only way Trump leaves right now is through a coronary or Caronavirus.

[intrepidity]

38. I wouldn't rule out covid-19 at all nt

[Initech]

80. It's almost like he's trying to get it.

So he can "miraculously" recover and say "See? I told you it was a deep state conspiracy against me!!".

[Kota]

29. not unless he makes a deal for him and his family.

[katmondoo]

60. He won't quit without a deal that exonerates him from N.Y. and Federal crimes.

[customerserviceguy]

30. It's already in Pence's lap

Still plenty of time before the RNC convention in Charlotte, if Pence can have the blame placed on him, then he can be replaced.

Even the fundies will decide that Jaysus is not on Pence's side if he can be seen to screw this up.

[Pachamama]

31. I predict he dies of COVID-19 by Summer

And no one goes to his funeral except his grifter kids

[Miguelito Loveless]

33. Highly unlikely

To lose power is to go to prison.

He will not relinquish power peacefully.

[lapfog_1]

36. possibly

what I expect tonight is some casual racism and some sort of claim that the Chinese, in coordination with Biden and the deep state, have unleashed the "chinese flu" on the US to take down perfect Trump, since impeachment didn't work

[intrepidity]

42. I didn't mean he'd do it tonight. No, certainly not yet

Within a month, he is going to come to terms with consensus reality about this pandemic.

It will be after that. Days, weeks, or months, but before October.

[WePurrsevere]

37. While I'd love to see that, Trump's NPD won't allow it.

In his mind HE is perfect and a winner. HE can do NO wrong and he has surrounded himself with suck ups that tell him whatver feeds his ego.

[intrepidity]

47. The same factors that allowed him to declare multiple bankruptcies

will allow this.

[WePurrsevere]

73. Maybe but I'm pretty sure he...

and didn't see it as losing or quitting back then since if I remember correctly those were all business bankruptcies not personal ones.

While he was always very full of himself before, his mental health now seems to be going into a full melt down. If his adldepated deep fried brain can find a way that he can handle leaving without blowing up the country that would be awesome. I'm just very dubious and not holding my breath that it will happen.

[intrepidity]

76. Honestly, my deeper belief is that

he will contract the virus and either die or be seriously damaged.

If miraculously that doesn't happen, then my OP stands.

[malaise]

39. Yep - make a mess and let others clean up

ReTHUGs will be wiped out in November

[intrepidity]

63. That's the pattern. Cut and run.

It will only happen when external realities finally force him to realize that there's no way for the mess to be fixed.

Having Biden as his opponent is the first element in this line of dominoes.

[renate]

41. If he announces a trip to any of the following countries, I might believe this

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen

https://www.wsfa.com/story/22665099/countries-with-no-extradition-treaty-with-us/

[intrepidity]

50. Yep. May not even announce it.

Also, by the time things progress that far, legal worries may not even come into play. He'll want to get away from the virus.

[mr_lebowski]

43. Okay, but I hope you know that this will go down on your PERMANENT RECORD ;) nt

[intrepidity]

52. Absolutely.

I accept.

[procon]

44. No, he won't because he actually believes he's doing

a fantastic job. In his bizarre thinking, he hasn't done anything wrong, so there's no reason that he would even consider such a thing.

[intrepidity]

57. Just wait and watch. nt

[Downtown Hound]

46. No.

[Kingofalldems]

48. Nope. And he may have to be forced out in January also.

[Chainfire]

53. Not gonna happen

You need to send me some of what you are smoking. Call me at BR 549. (;

[Hoyt]

54. Think it's possible. If GOPers think he will lose in landslide and cost them Senate, it's possible.

Still think he'll stick it out, but wouldn't be totally surprised if he fakes illness.

[wiggs]

55. If he could twist it as a win, he probably would. Koch, Adelson, and RNC could come up with a few

billion to pay him off and then Trump would resign 'because the US doesn't deserve him enough' and haul away his dough. I bet he wouldn't be able to resist telling the world he walked away rich as his 'reward'.

And of course Pence would have to pardon him and his family for anything illegal they've ever even thought about. But he would be gone.

[SallyHemmings]

56. From your keys to God's ears.

[Jarqui]

58. Bone spur flare up - retires in Russia

where he cannot be extradited.

Vlad can't stand him and has him taken out.

[Newest Reality]

61. I sincerly doubt that...

I have my own theory that he is in this for the full Monty and that is total dictatorship within the shortest time possible. His personality itself predicts that and he has been rather successful so far, IMHO.

This is the primary reason that the GOP wants to ride his tail. They are confident that a con man like him can do it.

Now that his narcissism has been stoked by the successes of conditioning the population and deteriorating the system, the next logical step is total control. Imagine being where he is at with all his personality disorders and mastery of confidence games? Where else could you go in order to get your fix? I am certain that all dictators have proclivities that we would find very difficult to understand and their motivations towards power and control are also quite different.

To resign or lose the election would be major letdowns to his persona and a failure to accomplish his ulterior motives and ultimate goal.

I guess I should say, bookmark that and we will be finding out soon enough.

[intrepidity]

68. But, control of what?

A society decimated by a plague, an economy in tatters, infrastructure destroyed, hundreds of thousands dead? Just picture it.

[C_U_L8R]

62. Mikey Pence will sneeze on the Trump

...and it will just too much for that idiot to handle.

Trump will literally explode in a wet orange 'pop", audible for several miles around.

(regards to Edward Gorey and The Beastly Baby)

[llmart]

66. Nope.

He and his grifter kids aren't done looting our Treasury yet. They've been stashing it offshore somewhere.

[GoneOffShore]

67. Your mouth to dog's ears, but no.

[seta1950]

69. Wishful thinking

I don’t think so

[Poiuyt]

74. If trump sees that losing in Nov is inevitable, he'll just increase his cheating.

[Cicada]

77. He would face obstruction justice indictment

More than 1000 former Fed prosecutors have said the Mueller report proves Trump is guilty of obstruction. If Trump leaves office before the statute of limitations has expired, he faces jail time. Trump will voluntarily leave only if he can get a signed plea deal first.

[intrepidity]

79. Consider a scenario where our society is

massively disrupted by this pandemic. Where courts are shutdown because the judges are home sick. Follow that train of thought for a little while.

[Cicada]

81. Trump can't take that chance

Judges will do work on Skype if necessary. Trump can not risk jail time.

[pnwest]

78. Oh Lord, thank you, I needed a good laugh today.

He's not going to resign, ESPECIALLY not in October right before the election. God knows I wish that would happen, but it just ain't gonna.

[AlexSFCA]

83. you wish, he'd rather blame pence for the mess

and of course Obama as usual.

[intrepidity]

86. My wishes don't factor in this nt

[LanternWaste]

89. Wishes factor into this no more and no less than prophecy.

[Maven]

85. No, holding onto the presidency is his only way of avoiding prosecution

He will not resign.

[kozar]

87. a great thread,,some think post is correct,

Some don't. But, a fascinating discussion going here without name calling. This is what makes DU great. I will bookmark this and agree with OP. 2 quick reasons why I think it is already in place.

1. We are already seeing much more of VP exposure in last 2 weeks that we have seen in 3 years. To make Mikey look Presidential I feel. Hell my 2 year old Dalmatian male would look Presidential next to Drump and He cannot stop bouncing off the walls right now.

2. I agree that he will go into exile,to non-extradition country to avoid state charges. Hear me out on this, please, as I have not read a comment yet on how. I believe he will schedule a "summit" before resignation to a certain country. He will fly there for this summit and AirForce1 will come back empty. Donald avoided all media scrutiny "post resignation" and what would military people who handle AF1 duties do? They would not have choice but to bring our country's property back. The media, for sure, will already be controlled in whichever country he goes to.

And as a bonus thought, I would not be one of the "advisors" to the Pres on this trip. From recent history and facts, they all think Donald loves them! When AF1 lands with those idiots on board, the TP shortage right now will pale in comparison to the popcorn shortage of that moment. If it happens,,thanks for listening.

Koz

[LanternWaste]

88. I see zero evidence the idiot would ever resign.

And zero evidence requires zero bookmarks

(on the other hand, Zero Evidence certainly does allow us the opportunity to pretend we're more insightful than reality may otherwise dictate)

[onenote]

90. As you suggested, I bookmarked it. Are you sticking with your prediction?

[intrepidity]

91. Thank you for paying attention

I am six months older now, and those six months have been quite the education in the infinite cruelity of this madman at the helm.

It's true, that in March, while I could foresee how devastating this pandemic could become, I could not have predicted that over 200,000 Americans would die from Covid19 (well, *that* part was easy to predict; it's the next part that wasn't), and there wasn't massive universal outrage at Trump's failures.

I admit that, as cynical as I already was in March, I did not expect the Magat cult to morph into the anti-mask (who dafuck saw that coming?!) death cult it is today.

I, naively, thought there *must* be a bottom to Trump's deep well of depravity and shamelessness. And if not his, then at least everybody else's.

And, while I'm mindful at this time of the foolishness of premature concession, the past six months have taught me that I must mournfully admit that I was wrong in the OP.

I remember being that person who could not conceive of where America is now, and I grieve for how much we have all lost in such a short time. Sigh.