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(6,477 posts)in that group.
n < 60yrs active smokers?
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Not a lot of discussion of that yet. Smoking rates in Milan had been extremely high until fairly recently.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Cetacea
(7,367 posts)Oh wait. Nobody is reporting it, least not the Trump Task Force.
applegrove
(118,622 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:03 PM - Edit history (2)
to 2:1 from coronavirus.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Emphysema, COPD, etc.
Not a good training regimen for preventing respiratory diseases.
Cetacea
(7,367 posts)Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #2)
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dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)1 Andorra 6398.3
2 Luxembourg 6330.9
That's like 18 cigarettes per day
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)a full pack, unless the cigarettes over there are different than ours. John Wayne and Judy Garland each smoked 4 packs a day at different points in their life. Although I have never known anyone that smoked that much.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)mucifer
(23,530 posts)pretty damn serious if they are in the ICU without lots of beds.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Steven Maurer
(459 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)step on the way to dead.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Wonder how many are smokers?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Cetacea
(7,367 posts)Got to love American's complete trust in what is being reported. I've noticed that nobody is reporting on the 18 out of 25 new cases in Florida that are under the age of sixty. It seems to me that it is statistically significant...
mucifer
(23,530 posts)be mild. We are going to see a lot of under 60 cases. Question is how severe will it be?
Thanks to gross negligence from Trump there is much we don't know. They are still talking about getting 100k tests out. That's inexcusable.
Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)conditions. Also, early care has better outcomes. Waiting until you are really, really sick to seek care is definitely not wise.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)instead of going in to the office or crowding the ER.
They also say we don't ration health care in America.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)The hospitals in my area are already at capacity.
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Thanks. Sorry about some of my posts in your thread. I'm losing it a bit!
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)more than welcome anytime.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)I didn't see yours first, but self deleted anyway.
This is a terrifying stat.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)The absolute fractional population of smokers is still much higher than here.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)dalton99a
(81,455 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)I still wonder about Russia and *their* CV cases (or lack of them).
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)a right wing group?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)It's just kind of generalized white resentment from the left and right all rolled into a convenient vest. They have done some marches with both far-left and far-right parties but it never really came to anything because it's just a bunch of people who are very angry but can't really say why.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Concerns about extremist elements in the movement
Concerns that the yellow vests movement were providing a new forum for extremist views were more frequently reported in the media after Alain Finkielkraut was insulted in week XIV. Vincent Duclert [fr], an expert on anti-Semitism, said that while "the gilets jaunes are not an anti-Semitic movement, each Saturday there are anti-Semitic expressions by groups of the extreme right or extreme left." Jean-Yves Camus, an expert on French political extremism, identified an "inherent weakness of a movement that lets the people speak" as being that anyone (whether far left, far right, radical Islamist or anti-Zionist) can say whatever they want in the street with little concern for propriety or legality.
Finkielkraut, interviewed by BFM-TV, was especially concerned with the viral nature of what he called a new type of "anti-racist" anti-Semitism. He named Dieudonné and Alain Soral as those responsible for propagating this new form of anti-Semitism.
According to a study conducted in February 2019, half of all yellow vest protesters (50%) said they believed in a "global Zionist conspiracy".
lunasun
(21,646 posts)We had to come and mark the day to tell Macron that were still here and that we wont accept his pension reform, said one pensioner.
The yellow vests, named after the high-visibility jackets they wear, were holding a 70th consecutive Saturday of action. The movement emerged late in 2018, triggered by fuel tax rises, and swelled into a revolt against Macrons government.
Interior Minister Christophe Castaner on Friday said all gatherings with more than 100 people had been banned. Paris police had already turned down requests for protesters to demonstrate at sensitive sites this Saturday, including the Champs Elysees where violent clashes broke out between security forces and protesters almost a year ago to the day.
Have some insight into what gathering this time will do over your long ongoing protest concerns
Hekate
(90,645 posts)unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Also France has a housecall system that most elderly people use.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That's definitely a big worry here
TwilightZone
(25,464 posts)SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)that is a bone chilling thought.
TheRickles
(2,057 posts)Probably because of the misleading wording - 50% of all ICU patients, vs. 50% of all COVID ICU patients. So the smoking patterns are probably playing a role, but we'll have to get clearer data.