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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:41 PM Sep 2012

Freepers gnash their teeth over WSJ article: Romney struggles to gain traction in battlegrounds

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443921504577641694168291460.html

Romney struggles to gain traction in battlegrounds

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some freeper comments

Struggling is an understatement. His own ppl today said he is behind in OH around 9 points.

Some of you need to wake up, acknowledge Romney is the worst disaster ever for the GOP and make sure this doesn’t happen again. And this is only going to get worse til election day.


9 posted on Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:07:26 PM by RIghtwardHo




This election cycle is the most frustrating of my lifetime. Obama is the most destructive force in our history and you have leftists, ABRs, holier than thous , marxists, communists, all ready to continue this destruction for four more years.

22 posted on Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:16:34 PM by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Innovative

I’ll bet it was Sandy Fluke the condom lady who got all the Oh...bah...mah zombies all riled up. How did this once great country turn into a sh*thouse so fast?

23 posted on Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:16:56 PM by FlingWingFlyer (Diversity and political correctness. The real reason 09-11-01 happened.)



I’ll vote for the dirtbag. But make no mistake about it, he IS a dirtbag. And if he loses, it will be because the GOP powers-that-be stuck us with the worst conceivable candidate: an unprincipled, fabian socialist empty-suit RINO magic-underwear wearing Myth.

I swear the GOP has a death wish.


Hank

36 posted on Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:25:40 PM by County Agent Hank Kimball (Myth Romney is a vile Fabian Socialist - his opponent is infinitely worse. How did it come to this?)

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Freepers gnash their teeth over WSJ article: Romney struggles to gain traction in battlegrounds (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 OP
Neither candidate is a socialist. These people would not know their face from JRLeft Sep 2012 #1
I got into several arguments with the hard right about that Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #48
What are 'ABRs'? CurtEastPoint Sep 2012 #2
Anybody But Rmoneys? I guess. Not really sure. I'm not fluent in moron. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #3
You got it right, some of them will vote for Gary Johnson nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #5
particularly since he endorsed part of "Obama care' today Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #7
Yup, exactly nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #13
Would not surprise me at all..... Wounded Bear Sep 2012 #8
Nope, not at all nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #15
Music to my ears..... Wounded Bear Sep 2012 #19
It's the Tyranny of the Duopoly. The one thing GOP & Dem cooperate on is shutting out third parties. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #47
Yeah...it is delicious. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #4
interesting seeing how they trash romney thru-out free republic Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #6
Reminds me of a song recorded by The Monks in '66 Zambero Sep 2012 #11
Yup. Even lukewarm Dems in '04 were not this viscous toward Kerry. Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #14
No. That came AFTER the election ecstatic Sep 2012 #43
Before he could try to steal it from us... sofa king Sep 2012 #17
And most all southern fundy folks hate him even more and WILL NOT vote for him. Kurovski Sep 2012 #21
I agree, him being a Mormon bishop is a BIG deal CanonRay Sep 2012 #53
Free Republic is a farther fringe than your typical Republican ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #41
It's because birthbagging morans prevent any reasonable conservative from even brewens Sep 2012 #9
Exactly! lolly Sep 2012 #37
Dont forget abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #40
This year, a bigger factor was Obama's perceived strength. Jim Lane Sep 2012 #46
I was really hoping Palin would get in there. I had told a few of her fans that it wouldn't be brewens Sep 2012 #49
EXCELLLLLLLLLENT !! russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #10
LOL! I love it! I love it! God that place is going to be a hoot on Nov. 6th! Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #12
Don't laugh until the votes are counted nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #16
What the hell is a "Fabian" socialist as opposed to any other kind? Mayberry Machiavelli Sep 2012 #18
Try this....... Wounded Bear Sep 2012 #23
Like the Afghanis do to everyone who fucks with them. sofa king Sep 2012 #32
It's a basic guerilla strategy. nt Wounded Bear Sep 2012 #33
Here, all you ever wanted to know about Fabian Socialism Monk06 Sep 2012 #26
As a former freerepublic supporter aletier_v Sep 2012 #20
Don't you just feel weirded out by ALL of us in both websites? Kurovski Sep 2012 #22
Yes but aletier_v Sep 2012 #27
Wow, so you were there before 2000? Kurovski Sep 2012 #45
Long Live Karl Marx and the Internationale flamingdem Sep 2012 #24
I just put that here to make the freepers feel they are right now and then! n/t flamingdem Sep 2012 #25
Ah yes, and John Lennon's "Imagine" as America's new anthem. Kurovski Sep 2012 #29
Our long term plans have come to fruition, Comrade! myrna minx Sep 2012 #50
Are we there yet? flamingdem Sep 2012 #56
Let's continue our Great Plan of Destruction, Comrades! Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #30
Yes comrade! Excellent use of the flag symbol to confuse the enemy! flamingdem Sep 2012 #34
Indeed! Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #36
Planning is already under way? nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #38
You'll be using a maser on the capitalists while riding a reindeer?! flamingdem Sep 2012 #54
Yes of course! flamingdem Sep 2012 #39
What's funny is they think they need to go further radical right to win davidn3600 Sep 2012 #28
it's sad aletier_v Sep 2012 #35
On occasion, a healthy dose of Schadenfreude is good for the soul Brother Buzz Sep 2012 #31
LMAO! Does anyone really think that last guy will go to the polls? ecstatic Sep 2012 #42
Their blame game doesn't hold water mick063 Sep 2012 #44
"I’ll vote for the dirtbag." - classic r0mney voter - holds their nose and votes geckosfeet Sep 2012 #51
Their verbiage is inspired get the red out Sep 2012 #52
This is hilarious. They attack their own viciously. Jennicut Sep 2012 #55

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
48. I got into several arguments with the hard right about that
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:03 AM
Sep 2012

They claim Obama is a socialist and a communist then they cite how bad the Soviets had it under Stalin and all of the woes of China and they say that this is what Obama wants.

Really? China is what real communism looks like? What part of China looks like a workers paradise? The profit motives, blatant disregard for the environment, the way the government crushes workers' strikes in China are things that would give the flacid penises of the republicans a raging erection.

Stalin was a communist? Really? They believe that one too. A very brief glance at history makes it clear that he was more of a facist than a communist. Communist and facist were hard enemies of eachother. Just look at the lyrics of the NDSAP (i.e. Hitler's nazi party) anthem, the Horst Weissel Leid. The whole song is about how Hitler (a facist) was going to crush the communist.

So, Yup. I agree with you. They don't know their face from their ass.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. You got it right, some of them will vote for Gary Johnson
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:50 PM
Sep 2012

I am even willing to predict the BEST election for the Libertarian party in the modern period.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
7. particularly since he endorsed part of "Obama care' today
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:53 PM
Sep 2012

They are saying "see, we told you" to that.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Yup, exactly
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:59 PM
Sep 2012

and Johnson has been courting them HARD.

One of the email lists I happen to be part off (job related) is the Ron Paul list.



Yup, hilarity is ensuring, and they have endorsed Gary Johnson

And to be fair, the Libertarians poll high enough where he should be in the debates.

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
8. Would not surprise me at all.....
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
Sep 2012

Most of the conserves on TOBIHOO* are saying they'll go 3rd Party, and Johnson rates high with them.



*(The Other Board I Hang Out On)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. Nope, not at all
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:01 PM
Sep 2012

And our blessed media should do a better job of profiling Johnson, to be honest.

It is sad that most partisans, outside certain quarters, let alone regular voters, have no idea we actually have a strong challenger to Romney (from the right)...

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-obama-leads-new-mexico-by-5-points

Read the internals, Gary Johnson is getting seven percent in that poll... for example.



Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
19. Music to my ears.....
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:24 PM
Sep 2012

anything that pulls votes from the Repubs in general I call a good thing.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
47. It's the Tyranny of the Duopoly. The one thing GOP & Dem cooperate on is shutting out third parties.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:54 AM
Sep 2012
 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
6. interesting seeing how they trash romney thru-out free republic
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:51 PM
Sep 2012

We don't agree with everything Obama has done, but they hate their candidate. with a passion.

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
11. Reminds me of a song recorded by The Monks in '66
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:57 PM
Sep 2012

"Well I hate you with a passion baby, but call me!"

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
43. No. That came AFTER the election
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:27 AM
Sep 2012

I think I recall us all rallying around Kerry once the debates began, etc.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
17. Before he could try to steal it from us...
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:15 PM
Sep 2012

... he had to steal it from them.

It would be nice if Mitt's gaming of the primaries had taught them a little empathy and understanding of what it means to be disenfranchised, but it didn't. It would be nice if they could look around for a second and realize that all of the political authorities they now trust are deliberately deceiving them, and they (and we) are all so much the worse off for it. That they're not just getting ripped off this time, but that they've been ripped off every time a Republican has slithered his way in and poisoned our futures, going waaaaay back.

But they won't.

Those poor people live in fear and they do not realize that the political figures they trust are the same people who seek to make the world frightening and control how they vote. It is tragic, it is amoral, and it has lowered the quality of all of our lives, regardless of party, except for a statistically insignificant number of fabulously rich people who have made off with everything we had.

It is shameful that we allow this to happen, but I don't know how to stop it.

Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
21. And most all southern fundy folks hate him even more and WILL NOT vote for him.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:29 PM
Sep 2012

the closeness of this race is bullshit. we're always told it's close to keep up the "thrill of the sport", to keeop the fans tuned in and the ad revenue up, and to keep races within stealing distance. 100 million Repubbies will pass away, replaced by only 50 million 'younguns, and we'll still be told "You best'gnash them damn teeth, cuz OOOWEEEE, it's a CLOSE one!!!"

No one is talking about the Mormon thing. He's a Bishop, for the love of almighty Zues on a zipline.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
41. Free Republic is a farther fringe than your typical Republican
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:19 AM
Sep 2012

They really are awful, selfish, disgusting people. They think he's not extreme enough.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
9. It's because birthbagging morans prevent any reasonable conservative from even
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
Sep 2012

wanting to run. Somewhere out there has to be some Republicans that actually give a shit about real small businesses and working people. If they don't give a shit about abortion, God, guns and all that, they don't stand a chance.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
37. Exactly!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:11 AM
Sep 2012

They whine about being left with an unlikeable candidate, but he was arguably the best of the bunch.

When you make batshit insane nastiness your main criteria for a Republican candidate, you're not going to get a very likeable person out of the primary process.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
46. This year, a bigger factor was Obama's perceived strength.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:57 AM
Sep 2012

People like Mike Pence, who might otherwise have run, decided to pass. In 2016, he and others will give the race much more serious consideration -- even though they'll know that part of the contest will be seeing who can throw the most red meat to the fundies.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
49. I was really hoping Palin would get in there. I had told a few of her fans that it wouldn't be
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:40 AM
Sep 2012

the "librul media" that took her down, it would be their own people. She would have made those debates a lot more fun!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. Don't laugh until the votes are counted
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:12 PM
Sep 2012

something like chickens and eggs.

But current trends, you will have to tell me how it is. I will be covering returns.

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
18. What the hell is a "Fabian" socialist as opposed to any other kind?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:17 PM
Sep 2012

Some Glenn Beck bullshit, I'm guessing?

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
23. Try this.......
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:35 PM
Sep 2012

Roman general and the "Fabian Strategy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabius_Maximus

Fabian strategy
Main article: Fabian strategy
Fabius was well aware of the military superiority of the Carthaginians, and so Fabius refused to meet Hannibal in a pitched battle. Instead he kept his troops close to Hannibal, hoping to exhaust him in a long war of attrition. Fabius was able to harass the Carthaginian foraging parties, limiting Hannibal's ability to wreak destruction while conserving his own military force. The delaying tactics involved a pincer of not directly engaging Hannibal while also exercising a "scorched earth" practice to prevent Hannibal's forces from obtaining grain and other resources.

The Romans were unimpressed with this defensive strategy and at first gave Fabius his epithet Cunctator as an insult. The strategy was in part ruined because of a lack of unity in the command of the Roman army, since Fabius' Master of the Horse, Minucius, was a political enemy of Fabius. At one point, Fabius was called by the priests to assist with certain sacrifices, and as such, Fabius left the command of the army in the hands of Minucius during his absence. Fabius had told Minucius not to attack Hannibal in his absence, but Minucius disobeyed Fabius and attacked anyway. The attack, though of no strategic value, resulted in the retreat of several enemy units, and so the Roman people, desperate for good news, believed Minucius to be a hero. Upon hearing of this, Fabius became enraged, and as Dictator, he could have ordered Minucius' execution for his disobedience. One of the Plebeian Tribunes (chief representatives of the people) for the year, Metilius, was a partisan of Minucius, and as such he sought to use his power to help Minucius. The Plebeian Tribunes were the only magistrates independent of the Dictator, and so with his protection, Minucius was relatively safe. Plutarch states that Metilius "boldly applied himself to the people in the behalf of Minucius", and had Minucius granted powers equivalent to those of Fabius. By this, Plutarch probably means that as Plebeian Tribune, Metilius had the Plebeian Council, a popular assembly which only Tribunes could preside over, grant Minucius quasi-dictatorial powers.

Also this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_strategy

The Fabian strategy is a military strategy where pitched battles and frontal assaults are avoided in favor of wearing down an opponent through a war of attrition and indirection. While avoiding decisive battles, the side employing this strategy harasses its enemy through skirmishes to cause attrition, disrupt supply and affect morale. Employment of this strategy implies that the weaker side believes time is on its side, but it may also be adopted when no feasible alternative strategy can be devised.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
32. Like the Afghanis do to everyone who fucks with them.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:53 PM
Sep 2012

(And which we well knew when, in our great wisdom, we fucked with them.)

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
20. As a former freerepublic supporter
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:26 PM
Sep 2012

I continue to be amazed by FR's increasingly delusional readership.

I am no Obama fan but I don't see how anyone can justify a vote for Romney.

I don't see how Christians can exonerate him of avarice.

He IS the problem.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
27. Yes but
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:41 PM
Sep 2012

the Freepers are deteriorating much faster.

The level of hate, paranoia and cognitive dissonance on FR has risen steadily since Bush was elected.

Obama seems to have triggered some true madness but I was off-put with FR even before 2008.


Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
45. Wow, so you were there before 2000?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:07 AM
Sep 2012

Well I'm glad you're here now. at least until we lose our minds completely.

Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
29. Ah yes, and John Lennon's "Imagine" as America's new anthem.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:46 PM
Sep 2012

Been a long time coming. I hear school bands across the nation are now required to learn it, you know, to be READY.

flamingdem

(40,891 posts)
34. Yes comrade! Excellent use of the flag symbol to confuse the enemy!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:01 AM
Sep 2012

We will triumph! (this is another symbol we can use to bamboozle them!)

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
36. Indeed!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:50 AM
Sep 2012

And we shall need plenty of these to fuel ourselves during our confusing Christmassy destruction: Tom Cruise will also enter into our plan, and here is our symbol for him:

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
38. Planning is already under way?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:14 AM
Sep 2012

I get dibs on the MASER...and super duper advanced targetting computer. I am bagging me a fying reindeer this year!!!

flamingdem

(40,891 posts)
39. Yes of course!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:17 AM
Sep 2012

A master of disguise Comrade! You have chosen well.



But will he take this mission?
 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
28. What's funny is they think they need to go further radical right to win
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:45 PM
Sep 2012

If Romney does lose, the far-right of the party will blame it on the moderates and claim Romney wasn't "conservative enough." In 2016, they will try to nominate some wacko like Santorum.

In reality, the problem is they are too radical. When you add in your platform that you want to crack down on porn, force women who are raped to have the child, and then totally disenfranchise the Ron Paul wing....your party's foundation starts to erode away and it scares the bejesus out of the independents.

They just spent 4 years trashing Obama and the Democrats about "too much government." Yet they turn around and want the government to legislate your morality. I mean the hypocrisy is laughable.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
35. it's sad
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:08 AM
Sep 2012

I don't understand why they can't see themselves, how they appear.

it's like a cat or dog that can't figure out that a mirror is a reflection.

I got banned after I commented that God had already sent them two false prophets (Palin and Cain) who abandoned them with egg on their face, and Romney was yet another falsehood, but they just can't figure it out.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
42. LMAO! Does anyone really think that last guy will go to the polls?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:23 AM
Sep 2012

Honestly, if I were that disgusted by my side's nominee, I'd probably come up a lame excuse to stay home that day.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
44. Their blame game doesn't hold water
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:30 AM
Sep 2012

All the other GOP candidates either, made multiple gaffes of blatant stupidity, had a background that made them unelectable, made religious fundamentalism the core of their message, or were so extreme in their "take the wrecking ball to government" views, that Mitt was the only one left standing. Indeed, I believe it was Mitt's moderate background in his younger days that probably made him more of a populist candidate than the others. He abandoned his old political philosophy to win the heart of Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers to his ultimate detriment.

Blaming it on Rinos simply doesn't work for me. They had the primary process. They had folks decide their candidate at the ballot box. If there is "blame" to be placed, it is on the hundreds of thousands of people that checked "Mitt" on their ballot because he was the least extreme.

The extremists are in denial. They talk like a few people imposed their will on them. They truly, mistakenly believe that most Americans hold their views. The truth is, the GOP base chose Mitt at the ballot box. Considering their available choices, Mitt probably was the best candidate they had.

It really does illustrate the poor quality of presidential candidates the GOP presented.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
51. "I’ll vote for the dirtbag." - classic r0mney voter - holds their nose and votes
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:50 AM
Sep 2012

So blind and great is their hate for president Obama.

get the red out

(14,031 posts)
52. Their verbiage is inspired
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:15 AM
Sep 2012

Obviously inspired by years of listening to right wing radio. I doubt they could have come up with all these words and phrases by themselves. They've been so conditioned that it's working against the Republicans at this point because no Republican can even pretend to go to the middle enough to attract enough "independents" to have confidence in winning the Presidency.

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