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Julian English

(434 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:38 PM Mar 2020

Goldman Sachs Predicts U.S. GDP to Shrink 5% in Second Quarter

From Bloomberg: Goldman Sachs Predicts U.S. GDP to Shrink 5% in Second Quarter

The U.S. economy will contract sharply in late March and April as consumers and businesses slash spending, with the short downturn likely be officially deemed as being a recession, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc.

The world’s largest economy will shrink 5% in the second quarter after zero gross domestic product growth in the first three months of the year, the firm’s economists wrote in a note Sunday. They cut their full-year forecast to 0.4% growth from 1.2% on expectations for growth of 3% and 4% in the third and fourth quarters and strong gains in early 2021.

“The uncertainty around all of these numbers is much greater than normal,” the Goldman economists wrote. Consumers and businesses will continue to cut travel, entertainment, and restaurant spending, while supply chain disruptions and tightening in financial conditions will further dent growth, they said.

Goldman’s projections followed U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin saying earlier Sunday that the coronavirus pandemic probably won’t tip the U.S. into recession, and came before the Federal Reserve cut rates to near zero.


The tRump Depression.
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Goldman Sachs Predicts U.S. GDP to Shrink 5% in Second Quarter (Original Post) Julian English Mar 2020 OP
Even before this no way they were getting 3% to 4% exboyfil Mar 2020 #1
This is all having a very "Baghdad Bob" kind of feel to it. nt ooky Mar 2020 #2
Especially since their old bro SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #6
The toilet paper industry should make a killing for a while nt doc03 Mar 2020 #3
Unfortunately, Koch Industries pretty much owns the tp business.😟 hedda_foil Mar 2020 #7
Well they should know their sh-- doc03 Mar 2020 #8
That's why I only buy Scott T.P. nt Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #9
Actually, this doesn't really impact them. herding cats Mar 2020 #11
Ouch BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #4
I remember hearing before that the mood of the country in April or May will doc03 Mar 2020 #5
Remember when Trump said the GDP would grow to livetohike Mar 2020 #10
But these idiots want to fund banks uponit7771 Mar 2020 #12

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
1. Even before this no way they were getting 3% to 4%
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:41 PM
Mar 2020

growth in the 3rd or 4th quarter. Someone needs to push back on this.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
6. Especially since their old bro
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:09 AM
Mar 2020

Mnuchin said he didn’t think a recession was coming.
I know it has to be two consecutive negative quarters, but -5% is a pretty good head start.

Yet 40 something % of the country is glad that the guy in charge is so smart he doesn’t need any real economists or experts to advise him.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
11. Actually, this doesn't really impact them.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 06:06 AM
Mar 2020

They're making bank upfront, but there's only so much real demand out there. When the dust settles they're in for potentially two quarters (or more) of loss. It's an extremely predictable. It's only adjusted for population growth.

It's not like hand sanitizer and disinfectants, which people actually are using more of right now. We're still all only using the exact same amount of TP.

BeyondGeography

(39,387 posts)
4. Ouch
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:59 PM
Mar 2020

People and businesses will be ruined by cratering and/or lack of income. The numbers will be much worse in the second half of the year if all we get in the way of relief is QE and the stimulus bill that is sitting in the Senate. IE commercial rent relief, consumer debt moratoriums and subsidies for all workers who are impacted by the virus, not just those forced to go on sick leave.

doc03

(35,392 posts)
5. I remember hearing before that the mood of the country in April or May will
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:04 AM
Mar 2020

set the tone for who is elected president in November. If that is the case Trump will get crushed in November. His die hard supporters will still back him but the sensible Republicans and independents are starting to turn IMO.

livetohike

(22,165 posts)
10. Remember when Trump said the GDP would grow to
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:43 AM
Mar 2020

“4,5, or even 6%” ? He is out of tools. Hope our nominee starts blasting him.

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