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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:37 PM Mar 2020

Honest question: Why do people panic-buy toilet-paper?

One roll of toilet-paper lasts about 1 month or whatever. I bet, you have on any given day a few spare rolls of toilet-paper in your home. So why the fuck do you need to go out and panic-buy 8 months worth of toilet-paper???

If you the shops close down for 8 months, we have worse problems than lack of toilet-paper.

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Honest question: Why do people panic-buy toilet-paper? (Original Post) DetlefK Mar 2020 OP
Because they are fucking idiots. shockey80 Mar 2020 #1
A-FUCKING-MEN Nature Man Mar 2020 #23
Panic and control. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #2
1 roll of toilet paper Ohiogal Mar 2020 #3
I know! Who has a roll of toilet paper for a month? BComplex Mar 2020 #21
Single person living alone TrishaJ Mar 2020 #34
Oh. Makes sense. n/t BComplex Mar 2020 #37
2 days is good in my house LOL at140 Mar 2020 #28
That's really odd Polybius Mar 2020 #50
My rate of use about same as yours at140 Mar 2020 #57
I'm single and use one a week jimfields33 Mar 2020 #38
Because when someone nearby sneezes... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #4
I have a bidet so a roll lasts 1 week with 2 adults kimbutgar Mar 2020 #5
If you need 100 rolls of TP for a 14-day respiratory disease quarantine... SeattleVet Mar 2020 #6
I imagine people are anticipating that the quarantine might be longer than just 14 days. onenote Mar 2020 #10
So...if run out of TP, jump in the shower! at140 Mar 2020 #30
Exactly!! jimfields33 Mar 2020 #39
I remember one winter in Illinois when I was a girl. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #7
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #53
Maybe one roll lasts you a month onenote Mar 2020 #8
Because it's the one common household item cyclonefence Mar 2020 #9
I lived off the grid for several months once. cwydro Mar 2020 #13
Not just toilet paper it's everything. Throck Mar 2020 #11
Good one. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2020 #51
Same reason there's a run on anything during an emergency. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #12
People are sheep. cwydro Mar 2020 #14
Because they are NincomPoops MagickMuffin Mar 2020 #15
One role a month... for how many people? question everything Mar 2020 #16
The Food Tube Newest Reality Mar 2020 #17
Your real thinking brain is in the gut. at140 Mar 2020 #31
Oh, yes. Newest Reality Mar 2020 #33
herding/heuristics/FOMO handmade34 Mar 2020 #18
lunatica solved this mystery... SaveOurDemocracy Mar 2020 #19
I'm WAY more stunned at the stupidity of water hoarding. Unless you live in Flint, MI or somewhere kysrsoze Mar 2020 #20
That one really has me baffled. I get worrying about running out of TP, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #26
That one website is more popular than you give it credit for being. Arthur_Frain Mar 2020 #22
Because they're scared shitless Mr. Ected Mar 2020 #24
When it doesn't they are going to laugh and say, jimfields33 Mar 2020 #44
That's why Windy City Charlie Mar 2020 #45
I'd love to see that picture on social media. jimfields33 Mar 2020 #47
Completely Anecdotal Bc804 Mar 2020 #25
The most shocking part of your post is saying you only need 1 roll of toilet paper Vinca Mar 2020 #27
This is what happens when you're two generations away from a time when diapers were TeamPooka Mar 2020 #29
Many poor people don't have washers & dryers. CottonBear Mar 2020 #46
Why are people buying bottled water? Mosby Mar 2020 #32
Its the item they would least tolerate being without. Raven123 Mar 2020 #35
Once some people start bulk-buying and creating an appearance of scarcity/shortage on the shelves RockRaven Mar 2020 #36
At least not matter what they die from ripcord Mar 2020 #60
Diarrhea Could Be One Of The Symptoms Of The Coronavirus..... global1 Mar 2020 #40
Antibiotics and other meds can really mess Lars39 Mar 2020 #41
While some are just crazed... radical noodle Mar 2020 #42
a roll lasts a month? Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #43
Because NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN! Sugar Smack Mar 2020 #48
The way Kleenex disappears in our home, Ilsa Mar 2020 #49
It's how the mind works Windy City Charlie Mar 2020 #52
Quite frankly, I'm amazed at folks who say they use two squares... LakeArenal Mar 2020 #54
There is a good reason to not run short of of toilet paper Chainfire Mar 2020 #55
In the not-too-distant future, there will probably be epic poems and ballads Buns_of_Fire Mar 2020 #56
A woman who has the virus said if you get it, you won't want to eat, so you won't need to crap.... zackymilly Mar 2020 #58
Honest question, why would we leap to think the worst of others Hortensis Mar 2020 #59

TwilightZone

(25,499 posts)
2. Panic and control.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:40 PM
Mar 2020

“When faced with an uncertain situation, people feel better if they can eliminate one risk,” Dr. Jay Zagorsky, a senior lecturer with BU’s Questrom School of Business, said in an email to Boston.com. “Bulk buying toilet paper eliminates the small risk of running out if quarantined. People might not be able to eliminate the risk of catching coronavirus but they can eliminate the risk of running out of toilet paper, which makes most people feel they have some control in this very uncertain situation.”

https://www.boston.com/news/business/2020/03/13/toilet-paper-coronavirus

Polybius

(15,510 posts)
50. That's really odd
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:29 PM
Mar 2020

That averages one roll every 4 days per person. I live by myself and one roll lasts around 2 weeks.

at140

(6,110 posts)
57. My rate of use about same as yours
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

my wife does not go by how many squares to use,
she yanks the end of paper, and has to have a wad in her hand.
and she uses a lot for every pee-pee.
I use nothing for pee-pee, just shake it a few times LOL
My wife thinks we own a paper mill or something.
But hey, she is a good shopper, so no big deal with TP..

jimfields33

(16,018 posts)
38. I'm single and use one a week
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020

No way it lasts a month. But I would never get more then 1 large toilet paper “package”. Some hold 24 rolls. I might grab that but again One!!!!!

kimbutgar

(21,224 posts)
5. I have a bidet so a roll lasts 1 week with 2 adults
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:42 PM
Mar 2020

I could be more frugal and use only 2 sheets.

But I don’t get it either people buying up the toilet paper.

SeattleVet

(5,480 posts)
6. If you need 100 rolls of TP for a 14-day respiratory disease quarantine...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:44 PM
Mar 2020

you most likely have some other major problems going on - not all of them physical.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
7. I remember one winter in Illinois when I was a girl.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:45 PM
Mar 2020

We got 18 inches of snow in a day and were snowed in out on the farm for 5 days. We ran out of TP with 5 of us using it. It is not a pleasant experience . But I think it is more about feeling in control of something, anything in an out of control situation.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
9. Because it's the one common household item
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

they can't figure out a work-around for. Plus it doesn't go bad if you have to keep it a long time. Things like milk and eggs and bread are important, but you can't realistically stock up (I know: freezers, but you're not addressing my concerns). In ordinary life it's a nuisance if you run out of tp, but you can try to borrow some from a neighbor or run to the store; if it's in short supply, you're SOL.

My theory, anyway.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
12. Same reason there's a run on anything during an emergency.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:49 PM
Mar 2020

People are afraid they'll run out (and running out of TP could be awkward) so they buy more than they need. Others see people buying a lot of it and they become afraid there won't be enough for them, so they buy more, too, and it snowballs. Any time there's a perceived shortage people try to get as much of the scarce thing as they can because they're afraid they won't be able to get any, and then the thing becomes even more scarce.

question everything

(47,544 posts)
16. One role a month... for how many people?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:52 PM
Mar 2020

Still, we Americans are over protecting ourselves. Visit other countries and you can purchase food in the street without all the wrapping that we have here. And we shower every day. I don't think that they do so in many countries. The downside is that as children we are not exposed enough to bugs that lurk around, and we do not have a chance to build our immune response.

I talked to a friend who is getting worry about not finding toiler paper and, worse come to worse she thinks she can use paper towel and throw it in the trash. ..


Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
17. The Food Tube
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:57 PM
Mar 2020

The alimentary canal is one, long tube from mouth to anus. One end usually does most of the thinking, but in an emergency the other hand starts to become more active in making decisions due to increased peristalsis caused by stress.

Of course, if you are a member of the GOP, a Republican, Trump, etc., that situation is usually, permanently reversed.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
33. Oh, yes.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:10 PM
Mar 2020

There has been some research along those lines, as well.

I remember "intestinal fortitude" also, back when I played some D&D games in younger times.

handmade34

(22,758 posts)
18. herding/heuristics/FOMO
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:59 PM
Mar 2020

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/copycats-and-contrarians/202003/toilet-paper-mania


"...Psychologists and economists have suggested a range of explanations; a desire to control bodily functions in the face of fear of illness; the need for security and comfort in a stressful situation; preparing for shortages...Other commentators hypothesize that loo roll mania is something like a fear of missing out, similar to the reactions seen during banking runs

...the fact that such large numbers of people are joining the crowd reflects our inbuilt instincts, as social animals, to follow others. Our propensity to follow others is complex. Some of our reasons for herding behind others are well-reasoned. Herding can be a type of heuristic: a decision-making short-cut that saves us time and cognitive effort. When other people's choices might be a useful source of information, we use a herding heuristic and follow others because we believe that they know more than we do...

...mobs take on a life and personality of their own, separate and distinct from the individuals within it. Also, numerous experiments from social psychology have shown how blindly susceptible we can be to the influence of others

kysrsoze

(6,023 posts)
20. I'm WAY more stunned at the stupidity of water hoarding. Unless you live in Flint, MI or somewhere
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:01 PM
Mar 2020

with the same issues, it makes absoutely zero sense. The water's a-flowin' from all our faucets, like it always does, and it's not loaded with coronavirus.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
26. That one really has me baffled. I get worrying about running out of TP,
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:05 PM
Mar 2020

since it isn't automatically distributed into our homes like water, but there's never been any kind of threat to the water supply.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
45. That's why
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

That's why I'm picturing the day when the return area at stores are going to be piled high with packages of toilet paper when people realize they didn't need as much as they thought they did.

Bc804

(12 posts)
25. Completely Anecdotal
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:05 PM
Mar 2020

But I suspect the more people see Social Media posts about all of the shelves being empty, they then buy up the entire supply if they see any out of fear they won't find it again.

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
27. The most shocking part of your post is saying you only need 1 roll of toilet paper
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:05 PM
Mar 2020

a month. Maybe you should try some probiotics and a little Metamucil. LOL.

TeamPooka

(24,264 posts)
29. This is what happens when you're two generations away from a time when diapers were
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

cloth and people washed an reused them
before Pampers were invented.
People have forgotten how to clean something with poop on it.

CottonBear

(21,597 posts)
46. Many poor people don't have washers & dryers.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

I used cloth diapers and cloth wipes for my child. I washed 2 times/week at least. Plus, there was the initial rinsing of poop in the toilet, the transfer to the 5 gal diaper bucket with water & borax, the washing, the vinegar rinse and the drying.

You’d have to have multiple wash buckets with lids in the bathroom if you don’t have a washer. A bucket for holding rinsed but not washed cloth wipes, a washing/rinsing bucket and a sanitizing bucket. Then hang everything from an indoor or outdoor clothes line or rack.

RockRaven

(15,037 posts)
36. Once some people start bulk-buying and creating an appearance of scarcity/shortage on the shelves
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:13 PM
Mar 2020

it becomes a game of musical chairs where nobody wants to be the one(s) left without. So more and more people get in game, and the scarcity becomes worse and worse. Self-perpetuating, and those late to the game are not totally irrational because by then there is real (temporary) scarcity.

global1

(25,285 posts)
40. Diarrhea Could Be One Of The Symptoms Of The Coronavirus.....
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

It's not one of the main symptoms - but some people may develop diarrhea.

People use more toilet paper when they have diarrhea.

This may be some of the thinking that is going on and why the hoarding.

I was at a store the other day and I overheard a lady saying out loud - why are people buying all this TP. Then she said - they must know something I don't. I better buy some too. She proeeded to put 2 six packs of TP in her cart.

radical noodle

(8,015 posts)
42. While some are just crazed...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

people often try to think of those things they use regularly. I suspect there's little in our lives we use more frequently (particularly women) than TP. While there are other solutions, most people want to have a supply of necessities if they think they'll be unable to get out for weeks on end. That buying of necessities is happening all over the country at all the same time therefor shortages appear. Providing that the factories can continue to produce, the supplies will eventually recover.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
43. a roll lasts a month?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

Please remember that women can't just give it a shake.

And remember that women menstruate.

And remember that having a stock of toilet paper in the house (and other essentials) means that YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE THE FREAKING HOUSE TO GO GET SOME.

Having supplies to last several weeks in case of quarantine is simply reasonable.

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
49. The way Kleenex disappears in our home,
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020

Using tp to blow your nose is common. A roll sits on the night stand.

Preppers buy a lot to use for barter.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
52. It's how the mind works
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:32 PM
Mar 2020

It's amazing how the mind works....when they see the rush and panic of things, they think they need to do the same thing. All you have to do is look in the past at the next great thing that comes out and everyone is on a mad rush to buy something, they figure they better make a mad-rush to, with the idea the items are going to run out and it's going to be a long time before they'll have a chance to buy it again.

LakeArenal

(28,858 posts)
54. Quite frankly, I'm amazed at folks who say they use two squares...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

No way two sheets even for pee
But two for pooping??????

No effin way.

Chainfire

(17,663 posts)
55. There is a good reason to not run short of of toilet paper
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020
Clean, white, soft toilet paper is the only thing that separates us from the Neanderthals. To run out is to drag our culture back ten thousand years.

Folks, this hoarding only a small taste of what will come if this virus has the impact that the gloom and doom folks think it will. It is the first small step of the breakdown of societal morals, ethics and reason. It is a case of, "I am going to have mine, and damn you any your family." Of course there are other "winners" out there that plan to profit off of shit paper. They should be forever know as "shit heads."

Next thing you may hear is that "I will give up my toilet paper stash when they pry my cold dead fingers from it."

Buns_of_Fire

(17,202 posts)
56. In the not-too-distant future, there will probably be epic poems and ballads
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 02:16 PM
Mar 2020

written about the TP Shortage of 2020. Maybe even a full-length motion picture about a pair of good-ol-boys who bootleg 400 cases of Charmin while being chased by the Potty Police.

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
58. A woman who has the virus said if you get it, you won't want to eat, so you won't need to crap....
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 03:14 PM
Mar 2020

...so stop hoarding food and toilet paper.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. Honest question, why would we leap to think the worst of others
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

when it's so clearly wrong? For every whoever who is "panic buying" are hundreds who are laying in supplies they believe they'll need. What kind of father would let his wife and children run out of toilet paper? And it multifunctions. This is basic stuff.

Our supply problem isn't too much panic but too much complacence.

A standard pack of TP at Sam's Club has 36 rolls. To MY mind, I believe every sensible household should -- as has been recommended for years by authorities -- have one of those laid in in case of disaster, many types of which, like this one, are predicted. We all certainly should have known this was going to happen.

I took a big dislike to the word panic long ago, though. Governments routinely use it as an excuse to lie to, exploit and betray whole populations. Watch any coverage of advancing wildfire and you'll see some idiot reporter claiming people packing their cars are panicking. And of course, we have this picture of the frantic buying of toilet paper everywhere, with panicked people fighting each other for the last rolls and and then running into the fires with them.

Maybe we should just eliminate that word for now. It's degenerated into a knee-jerk insult aimed in not-so passive aggression at pretty much everybody who purchases anything. Never forgetting that mindless hostility swung around like a fire hose at anything moves is a really big part of what got Trump elected.

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