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Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

Does anyone know why there are so few covid19 cases in India? NT

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Reply Does anyone know why there are so few covid19 cases in India? NT (Original post)
AJT Mar 2020 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #12
msongs Mar 2020 #2
PJMcK Mar 2020 #3
AJT Mar 2020 #4
at140 Mar 2020 #10
getagrip_already Mar 2020 #5
at140 Mar 2020 #6
AJT Mar 2020 #7
MyNameIsKhan Mar 2020 #11
defacto7 Mar 2020 #14
at140 Mar 2020 #16
defacto7 Mar 2020 #19
at140 Mar 2020 #20
Recursion Mar 2020 #45
at140 Mar 2020 #47
Recursion Mar 2020 #49
at140 Mar 2020 #51
meadowlander Mar 2020 #35
at140 Mar 2020 #41
meadowlander Mar 2020 #44
at140 Mar 2020 #48
The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #8
Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #9
Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #13
defacto7 Mar 2020 #15
Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #18
SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #17
at140 Mar 2020 #22
SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #25
sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #30
SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #31
sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #37
MontanaMama Mar 2020 #32
sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #39
Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #23
Renew Deal Mar 2020 #27
RockRaven Mar 2020 #29
meadowlander Mar 2020 #36
jberryhill Mar 2020 #52
Dream Girl Mar 2020 #54
meadowlander Mar 2020 #56
Dream Girl Mar 2020 #57
ecstatic Mar 2020 #21
littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #24
AJT Mar 2020 #26
littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #28
AJT Mar 2020 #33
littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #34
sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #38
AJT Mar 2020 #40
at140 Mar 2020 #43
Dream Girl Mar 2020 #55
at140 Mar 2020 #42
Recursion Mar 2020 #46
at140 Mar 2020 #50
Dream Girl Mar 2020 #53

Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:21 PM

1. Testing or reporting, maybe?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:39 PM

12. That would be my guess

Large slums full of desperately poor people has to be the ideal environment for maximum infection.
China has always been an enemy; letís hope they have the will and the courage to step in and help.
God knows the USA can no longer serve that role.

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:21 PM

2. cuz India has no clue how many they have? nt

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:21 PM

3. Chicken vindaloo

With aloo paratha.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

4. Sounds yummy

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:35 PM

10. It is not the chicken doing the job, it is loads of curry

Curry powder is made from turmeric+coriander+ginger+chili....all have anti-bacterial proerties.
Turmeric is a good natural expectorant, may be helping expel covid virus before it sets up a colony in lungs.

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:24 PM

5. yes, testing....

India isn't really testing. They have a different outlook on disease.

Time will tell.

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:24 PM

6. Yes, I know all the reasons why India with 1350 million people has about 100 infections

1. It is already excruciatingly hot there, virus has no chance to survive outside of human body
Unlike United States, hottest month in India are APril-May. Monsoons show up in June-July and cool down the air
2. Indians do NOT shake hands, the greetings is namaste.
3. Indians live in low quality sanitary conditions, which boosts their resistance to various diseases
4. India is carefully checking people coming from infected areas.
5. Curry is a great killer of bacteria and may be viruses. (Turmeric+coriander+ginger+chili powder)

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Response to at140 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

7. Interesting.

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Response to AJT (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:38 PM

11. i think its testing! there are anyhow many people dying due to not access to medical care

When do many people defecate in open, this virus must be there.

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Response to at140 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:59 PM

14. Uh... no. No testing.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:06 PM

16. There are also no mass deaths occurring as you would expect in a country

20 times bigger than Italy and 15 times bigger than Iran.
AT least 300 million Indians can speak English and have cell phones.
If covid-19 was killing people at the rate of Italy or Iran, it would be all over social media.

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Response to at140 (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:13 PM

19. We'll see I guess. I hope it's that simple but I don't

expect it to pan out that way.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:17 PM

20. Also see post #8 which correctly tells what India did early in the game

which is to quickly cancel all visa's from affected countries. Better to stop the infected people, then testing is not as critical.

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Response to at140 (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:08 PM

45. Mumbai has 25,000 deaths a year from waterborne illnesses

A slow burn might not even rise above the noise there. Though, I don't even want to think about what would happen if this spread quickly in Dharavi or Basanti.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #45)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:13 PM

47. and in spite of all the disease related deaths, population keeps growing fast!

I don't know if the gov't still does it, but at one time you got paid for going through a vasectomy.

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Response to at140 (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:17 PM

49. 500 immigrants move to Mumbai from the countryside every day

It's not so much the birth rate as that

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Response to Recursion (Reply #49)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:24 PM

51. I was referring to the overall population of India.

It just keeps growing and growing. And the average age keeps dropping.
If there is one thing I enjoy more than anything else in USA is so many peaceful and quiet places to live.
My house has dense woods behind the back yard. No traffic noise whatsoever.
Last time I was in India it was loud traffic noise beginning at 5 am in the house where I grew up.
It was nothing like that when I left in 1960.

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Response to at140 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:46 PM

35. All of those things are also true in Wuhan.

Itís lack of testing/reporting or somehow winning the travelling vector jackpot.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

41. When covid-19 erupted in Wuhan (last Nov), it was much colder weather there

and by the time it began arriving in India in March, it was already very hot there.
Chinese do not consume anywhere near the amount of turmeric consumed by Indians.

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Response to at140 (Reply #41)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:00 PM

44. Cases spiked in February in Wuhan which is why I was looking at the weather then.

Curry (Gali 咖喱 ) is a very popular dish in China (where I lived for five years) and certainly I almost never saw a dish that didn't include ginger, garlic and cilantro. Those are all staples in the Chinese diet.

It gets very hot in Central China and Iran and Brazil and Italy and Spain and Malaysia and Australia (where it's the height of summer at the moment).

There's no evidence that either temperature or diet affects the spread of the disease.

There is evidence that Modi's government is corrupt and that India lacks the healthcare infrastructure of some of the other countries (like South Korea) that are successfully containing the spread.

Therefore it is a lot more likely that the issue stems from lack of testing than the magic healing powers of turmeric.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #44)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:17 PM

48. Entirely possible, but I am not hearing much about covid-19

from the few relatives I still keep in touch with in India.
This coming September will be 60 years since I am in US and 50 years since becoming a US citizen.

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:30 PM

8. It looks like they've cracked down really hard almost from the beginning.

India has reported around 125 cases of the coronavirus, and it is a bit of a mystery how the worldís second-most-populous nation, with 1.3 billion people, has remained relatively unscathed while the number of cases explodes to its east and west. That has spawned a sense of almost disbelief about the crisis in some quarters.

Doctors say it is either that there are many more cases in India than have been detected, because of the difficulties of getting tested, or that India has indeed managed to so far escape the worst, possibly because of quick and strict efforts right from the start.

In Kerala, in the south, the authorities used GPS technology, CCTV footage and mobile phone records to trace the movements of one Indian family believed to be among the first infected here. They returned from Italy in late February, and within days, medical teams fanned out to all the places they had visited including banks, restaurants and churches and quickly quarantined just about everyone they had come in contact with ó nearly 1,000 people.

India was also one of the first nations to essentially shut its borders, canceling visas and denying entry to all but a select few foreigners. Some states, such as Kerala, are beginning to beef up internal borders, taking the temperature of passengers in cars and screening people on trains.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/world/asia/india-coronavirus.html

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:33 PM

9. They got too of it in a hurry!

And it shows

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:53 PM

13. I'm not buying it anymore than Russia. India's leader is kinda Trumpy.

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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:00 PM

15. Pure Trumpy

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:07 PM

18. "I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault."

Test no evil see no evil.


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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:07 PM

17. Coronavirus hates turmeric

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:23 PM

22. Every time I got flu as a kid, my Indian mom made me a drink

of hot milk with loads of turmeric, which I hated of course. But it always helped get better faster.

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Response to at140 (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:26 PM

25. 😁 I eat a lot of Indian food now (American White boy)

And when I cook beans or lentils I load with cumin and turmeric

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:35 PM

30. I love cumin, cardamom, coriander. 😍

Amerikanska caucasian female...

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #30)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:38 PM

31. 👍😍

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #31)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:55 PM

37. 😁

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Response to at140 (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:38 PM

32. Golden milk?

Thatís on my short list to get into my immunity regimen.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:58 PM

39. What a beneficent fortuitous exchange here regarding this spicy milk. Yah! eom

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:24 PM

23. Yeah. That's it. 12 herbs and spices.

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:28 PM

27. A friend of indian origin sent me that

Something about spice fighting off coronavirus.

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:30 PM

29. That's weird, because coronavirus cannot get enough of Trump, and he's the same color...

The world is a mysterious place...

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

36. Turmeric, garlic, ginger, coriander

All staples of Chinese food too especially the further west you go.

Itís the lack of testing, not magic ingredients in curry.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #36)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:25 PM

52. Two of the highest countries in garlic consumption per capita are Italy and China

 

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #36)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:36 PM

54. It's the turmeric and ginger

I donít think of turmeric as being Chinese

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #54)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:51 PM

56. In mainland China,

curry is a very popular dish, especially in hot pot restaurants. I ate it at least on a weekly basis with friends when I lived there. Thinking back more or less any group meal I ate in a restaurant included at least one curry dish (generally curried beef and potatoes or curry hot pot).

It's not as common in Chinese restaurants in America because (obviously) when Americans go to Chinese restaurants they want "Chinese" food - fried rice and sweet and sour pork. But there is a huge diversity of regional cuisines in China which reflect a number of ethnic groups. China borders India and they share some common dishes. We also don't think of KFC as being "Chinese" but that doesn't mean people in China don't consume a lot of fried chicken.

And literally every single dish in China contains ginger. If it had any impact on Covid-19, why were cases spiking there?

There's no evidence that anything other than medical and social interventions (like testing and social distancing) have any impact on the spread of Covid-19 and it's frankly irresponsible at this point to be speculating that there is some magic dietary ingredient that will protect people from getting it or improve their outcomes.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #56)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:00 PM

57. Yes China is a big country and American Chines is is mostly Cantonese, Hunan, Szechuan

I donít Know China very well, but I thinking of curries containing Turkic as more regional. In India itís everywhere

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:21 PM

21. They're blocking cruise ships

and probably flights as well. I assume there's a lack of testing though...

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:25 PM

24. My friend in Pune says they're not testing. She is self isolated at home.

She is also very worried. Police are asking shops,restaurants to voluntarily close but she says she's not hopeful. She's such a lovely person. I hope she makes it through.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:27 PM

26. I hope she makes through too.

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Response to AJT (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:29 PM

28. Thanks AJT. I appreciate your kind words. ❤ nt

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:42 PM

33. I was tested today, but won't have results until tomorrow.

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Response to AJT (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:45 PM

34. I'm hoping that you get good news. Please take care of yourself. ❤ nt

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Response to AJT (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:56 PM

38. Prayers for you, dear one. ☦

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:13 AM

40. Thank you sweet sprinkleeninow.

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Response to AJT (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

43. Even if God-forbid it comes back positive,

remember the best fighter against any virus is your own body.
Anti-biotics work only with bacterial infections.
So give your body what it needs to produce lots of anti-bodies which will know how to identify the virus and kill it.
Eat nutritious foods, get plenty of sleep, keep well hydrated, do deep breathing exercise before and after bed time, avoid alcohol and no smoking!
And consume turmeric in any form, it is a natural expectorant which helps expel bad stuff from lungs.

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Response to AJT (Reply #26)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:38 PM

55. I hope we make through too, that post is mildly condescending

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #24)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:33 PM

42. Hottest month where I grew up in Western India was May, not July

The covid-19 will perish in India by mid-April. It is crazy hot there by then.
The monsoons show up mid-June, and with it came wonderful cooler air. and much needed rain.
In my town only rain we ever received was from June-September. Totally dry rest of year.

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Response to at140 (Reply #42)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:10 PM

46. The weather patterns and precipitation vary regionally

In Bengal and the Northeast they get a reverse monsoon off the Bay that comes in December. And in the Deccan there are areas where it can rain any time of the year.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #46)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:20 PM

50. I think you are entirely correct.

Since leaving India 60 years ago, what I miss most is the more flavorful tomatoes, mangoes, jack fruit, and apples.
When an apple was cut, the entire room was filled with the aroma. But I do not miss the over-crowded markets and streets.

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Response to AJT (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:25 PM

53. Turmeric. I have a pot of golden milk on stove right now.

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