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sunonmars

(8,657 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 08:57 PM Mar 2020

2nd one : NEW -- Sen. Kelly Loeffler Dumped Millions in Stock After Coronavirus Briefing




The Senate’s newest member sold off seven figures worth of stock holdings in the days and weeks after a private, all-senators meeting on the novel coronavirus that subsequently hammered U.S. equities.

Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA) reported the first sale of stock jointly owned by her and her husband on Jan. 24, the very day that her committee, the Senate Health Committee, hosted a private, all-senators briefing from administration officials, including the CDC director and Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institutes of Health of the United States, on the coronavirus.

“Appreciate today’s briefing from the President’s top health officials on the novel coronavirus outbreak,” she tweeted about the briefing at the time.

That first transaction was a sale of stock in the company Resideo Technologies worth between $50,001 and $100,000. The company’s stock price has fallen by more than half since then,and the Dow Jones Industrial Average overall has shed approximately 10,000 points, dropping about a third of its value.

It was the first of 29 stock transactions that Loeffler and her husband made through mid-February, all but two of which were sales. One of Loeffler’s two purchases was stock worth between $100,000 and $250,000 in Citrix, a technology company that offers teleworking software and which has seen a small bump in its stock price since Loeffler bought in as a result of coronavirus-induced market turmoil.
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2nd one : NEW -- Sen. Kelly Loeffler Dumped Millions in Stock After Coronavirus Briefing (Original Post) sunonmars Mar 2020 OP
Were there Democratic senators at this briefing or just Republicans? Beakybird Mar 2020 #1
Great question. NoMoreRepugs Mar 2020 #3
I wonder how much of that MNPI Loeffler passed onto her husband and then onto other money boys. TheBlackAdder Mar 2020 #43
Regardless DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #45
Isn't this the 'pug only meeting? I think WH is still holding 'pug only meetings. Hestia Mar 2020 #50
Just you wait malaise Mar 2020 #2
Plenty of our own are probably doing it too Amishman Mar 2020 #24
That is actually a rule??? They are exempt?? TNNurse Mar 2020 #29
It's a loophole because they aren't technically "Insiders" A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #30
Where some of them get in trouble Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #38
Yup. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #41
So...the best legal protection against a chrge of insider trading is to get elected. LMFAO! slumcamper Mar 2020 #42
What about Chris Collins? wnylib Mar 2020 #53
What about him? A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #54
A prosecuted and convicted insider. wnylib Mar 2020 #55
Nope--they closed some of those holes in 2012 STOCK Act that Burr voted against SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #34
and a year later they neutered the STOCK act, making it nearly impossible to enforce Amishman Mar 2020 #56
Clearly not true SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #58
he was only caught because of the leaked recording Amishman Mar 2020 #59
Why else would someone spend millions to get a six figure job? n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author nilram Mar 2020 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author nilram Mar 2020 #47
While I hope they lock her up, that means Doug Collins will likely be in line. We gotta vote. Hoyt Mar 2020 #4
I could give a rat"s ass lock the gop senator up rockfordfile Mar 2020 #8
Doug Collins the racist, trump loving GOPer running for Senator is darn sure not any better. Hoyt Mar 2020 #11
there no such thing as a better goper rockfordfile Mar 2020 #28
Collins is already in prison malaise Mar 2020 #9
Doug Collins, the racist, trump lover running for Ga Senator in GOPer special election? Hoyt Mar 2020 #10
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Wrong Collins malaise Mar 2020 #12
Sorry, I should have identified which Collins. Forget DUers aren't in this gawd awful red state. Hoyt Mar 2020 #14
I should have been more careful with the first name malaise Mar 2020 #18
Can't wait to see if she still has volstork Mar 2020 #5
Did she just think no one would notice? Also, what a ghoul. nt crickets Mar 2020 #6
A Coulter wanna-be? erronis Mar 2020 #15
Lock the corrupt pos up. Democrats ask for investigations rockfordfile Mar 2020 #7
Not surprised. GoCubsGo Mar 2020 #13
Either she or her husband has had trouble with the SEC before. One of them Blue_true Mar 2020 #25
Fuck Eric Trump too dustyscamp Mar 2020 #16
He could be next malaise Mar 2020 #19
Unethical, but isnt it legal for Congress members? Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #17
I think you're right. nt pnwmom Mar 2020 #21
Law was changed under Obama MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #22
Good! Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #32
It was always illegal for elected representatives to trade on inside information. Scruffy1 Mar 2020 #49
I believe this qualifies as insider trading... Amaryllis Mar 2020 #20
Of course it does SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #23
They are above the law. And i was being sarcastic when i said i believe it qualifies. Amaryllis Mar 2020 #27
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #26
insider trading AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #31
and I'm so sorry for saying this....NOT....LOCK HER DAMN ARSE UP. a kennedy Mar 2020 #33
Another f-ing repugnican SMoss Mar 2020 #35
No doubt Vampire Kushner was in on this as well. kairos12 Mar 2020 #36
These assholes sound like they violated the STOCK Act IronLionZion Mar 2020 #37
Crook Rep Chris Collins of Western New York's 27th committed insider trading from White House Lawn. NBachers Mar 2020 #40
The Loeffers Net Worth 500M benld74 Mar 2020 #46
If I recall correctly, she's the richest person in Congress already. This is one reason why. ancianita Mar 2020 #48
Let's see what the trump family did. Hoyt Mar 2020 #51
I think Trump, Pence, McConnell, and many other Republicans knew about this and covered it up. Stevegberg Mar 2020 #52
she needs to resign immediately. nt Baltimike Mar 2020 #57

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
43. I wonder how much of that MNPI Loeffler passed onto her husband and then onto other money boys.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:39 PM
Mar 2020

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
45. Regardless
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:51 PM
Mar 2020

Find out the ones involved and publicize it across the nation in the states they represent. I doubt the Republicans will take kindly to the person they elected screwing them over also.......

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
50. Isn't this the 'pug only meeting? I think WH is still holding 'pug only meetings.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:27 PM
Mar 2020

Democrats have been raising hell about not getting information to make proper decisions. GOP senators are hoarding information.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
24. Plenty of our own are probably doing it too
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:38 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Congress has an exemption from insider trading rules, it needs to be closed.

This is one of congress's dirty little secrets

edit: one small correction, I thought the STOCK act was repealed in 2013, it was not. The enforcement mechanism was just crippled. So they don't have an exemption anymore but the law to bar them was crippled and it is very difficult to get caught now.

TNNurse

(7,541 posts)
29. That is actually a rule??? They are exempt??
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:51 PM
Mar 2020

WTF??? What other crimes are they allowed to commit??

A HERETIC I AM

(24,876 posts)
30. It's a loophole because they aren't technically "Insiders"
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

Congress persons can't be accused of "Insider Trading" because they aren't members of the board or otherwise technically on the inside of any publicly traded company.

At least that's the way I understand it.


And yes, it's corrupt as hell, but it ain't illegal.


Yet.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
38. Where some of them get in trouble
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:33 PM
Mar 2020

is when they give the information to friends and relatives so they can do it, too.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,876 posts)
41. Yup.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:37 PM
Mar 2020

Not to mention initiating or sponsoring legislation that directly benefits a corporation or industry in which they are heavily invested.

If you or I did that, we would be in jail.


On edit to say yes, I know that kind of graft has been going on in politics since time immemorial.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,876 posts)
54. What about him?
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 12:17 AM
Mar 2020

He was clearly an insider, according to this Wikipedia page on him;


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Collins_(American_politician)#2018_criminal_charges

He was the largest shareholder of the company involved in the charges against him. That makes him an insider.

wnylib

(26,014 posts)
55. A prosecuted and convicted insider.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 12:27 AM
Mar 2020

So what about the claim in this thread that menbers of Congress are exempt from insider trading laws?

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
56. and a year later they neutered the STOCK act, making it nearly impossible to enforce
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mar 2020

in 2013 they removed the portion requiring online posting of the disclosure of their financial transactions, effectively making it unenforceable. The only way to accurately audit their transactions is to manually go through thousands of paper records stored in a basement in DC.

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/04/16/177496734/how-congress-quietly-overhauled-its-insider-trading-law

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
59. he was only caught because of the leaked recording
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020

no one would have been looking into him otherwise, as it is so burdensome to casually look into this

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. While I hope they lock her up, that means Doug Collins will likely be in line. We gotta vote.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:03 PM
Mar 2020
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Doug Collins the racist, trump loving GOPer running for Senator is darn sure not any better.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:17 PM
Mar 2020
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Doug Collins, the racist, trump lover running for Ga Senator in GOPer special election?
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:15 PM
Mar 2020
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Sorry, I should have identified which Collins. Forget DUers aren't in this gawd awful red state.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:19 PM
Mar 2020

malaise

(296,110 posts)
18. I should have been more careful with the first name
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:24 PM
Mar 2020

The New York ReTHUG prisoner is Chris Collins for insider trading

volstork

(5,837 posts)
5. Can't wait to see if she still has
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:05 PM
Mar 2020

that smug look on her face when they march her off in an orange jumpsuit...

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
13. Not surprised.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:19 PM
Mar 2020

She is so skeevy is isn't funny. Blonde version of Nikki Haley. Phoney as a three dollar bill, and just as corrupt, it appears. I have no doubt she won't be the last inside trader that gets exposed.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. Either she or her husband has had trouble with the SEC before. One of them
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

paid a massive fine in a settlement that allowed the person to deny quilt.

Scruffy1

(3,533 posts)
49. It was always illegal for elected representatives to trade on inside information.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:20 PM
Mar 2020

Well, at least since there was a law. The recent law covers government policy changes that the public may not have information on and politicians do. In a way, this one is even more egregious and maybe leads to a surmise that the Washington crew purposely held back information to give them time to short the market by selling shares or buying inverse options. I have long suspected that many of the orange idiots statements were aimed at affecting the market so the "loyal boys and girls" can make some dough on the side if they have a hint at what's coming. Of course, trying to get a conspiracy going among this confederation of dunces is a pretty far reach. In the end I think they are all certain they are immune from laws and can do whatever they want like the orange anus. The fact is the rich and the powerful rarely get bothered by laws or rules. And why would they be worried? Most of them have been getting away with it for their whole lives.

Amaryllis

(11,294 posts)
27. They are above the law. And i was being sarcastic when i said i believe it qualifies.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:42 PM
Mar 2020

Laws don't apply to GOP.

a kennedy

(35,981 posts)
33. and I'm so sorry for saying this....NOT....LOCK HER DAMN ARSE UP.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:58 PM
Mar 2020

I swear to gawd, and I’m so damn sick of this shit. LOCK HER UP.

SMoss

(112 posts)
35. Another f-ing repugnican
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020

Never vote for a republican again. They use their inside information to enrich themselves at the expense of the citizens who ignorantly elected them.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
37. These assholes sound like they violated the STOCK Act
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mar 2020

and should be investigated, charged, prosecuted, etc if so.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
40. Crook Rep Chris Collins of Western New York's 27th committed insider trading from White House Lawn.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:36 PM
Mar 2020

He's been convicted, and will report for a 28 month sentence on April 21st.

Democrat Nate McMurray is running to fill his open seat in western New York's 27th District. McMurray's election is set for April 28th. He's got a lot of support in his district. Our donations will help push him over the edge and give western New York the Democratic representation they deserve.

Here's the story on this republican crook Collins:

https://www.whec.com/livingston-county-ny-news/start-of-chris-collins-prison-sentence-delayed-to-april/5662588/

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
48. If I recall correctly, she's the richest person in Congress already. This is one reason why.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020
 

Stevegberg

(80 posts)
52. I think Trump, Pence, McConnell, and many other Republicans knew about this and covered it up.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:44 PM
Mar 2020
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