How dangerous are malignant narcisist?

[SummerSnow]

In malignant narcissism, NPD is accompanied by additional symptoms of antisocial, paranoid and sadistic personality disorders. While a person with NPD will deliberately damage other people in pursuit of their own selfish desires. - Wikipedia



'will deliberately damage other people in pursuit of their own selfish desires'


*let that sink in. This is what was done to us and the bleeding will go on until a cure is found.

[4887123]

1. I Know

My ex wife is a malignant narcissist. The similarities between her and Trump are astounding. Of course she worships Trump and thinks he's not a narc and I am. But honestly, she destroys relationships with her lies, exaggerations, alternate reality, and paranoia. To have a president with this mental illness (which NPD is) is dangerous to say the least.

[Rorey]

2. Same with my ex-husband

We're told that we shouldn't diagnose, buy he fits all nine of the 9 official criteria for NPD. It's as if he took classes in how to be a narcissist. Like your wife, he also worships 45.

One time when we were having a vicious argument over the phone, I did blurt out that he was a narcissist. It was before I learned that we're not supposed to do that. His immediate retort was that I was a narcissist. The transference about everything was becoming blatantly obvious.

45 does exactly the same things that my ex did. He transfers blame to someone else.

For anyone interested, here are the 9 official criteria for NPD:

A grandiose logic of self-importance
A fixation with fantasies of infinite success, control, brilliance, beauty, or idyllic love
A credence that he or she is extraordinary and exceptional and can only be understood by, or should connect with, other extraordinary or important people or institutions
A desire for unwarranted admiration
A sense of entitlement
Interpersonally oppressive behavior
No form of empathy
Resentment of others or a conviction that others are resentful of him or her
A display of egotistical and conceited behaviors or attitudes

[SummerSnow]

3. My best friends ex-husband is a narc too...

She has primary custody of their children and she told me just the other day that he has not one time inquired about their well being and health, nor did he ask if they needed anything. I told her this is typical narc style, they care for no one.

[Rorey]

5. It's a difficult thing to learn to accept

It sounds like you're well educated on the subject. This past year has been the most enlightening time of my entire life. The most difficult thing for me to realize and accept was that narcissists are not like the rest of us. They don't love. They possess. I'm sure it's devastating for your friend to realize that the father of her children doesn't care at all about them.

[4887123]

4. Yep

I feel for what you went through. I also call her a narcissist. She explodes in a narc rage that is unbelievable. She contacts my friends and relatives to try to bash me. The gaslighting is enough to cause me to never deal with her again.

[Rorey]

6. If at all possible, it's best to do just that

But it sounds like you share friends and she still interacts with your family.

In my case, my children (all adults now, and they weren't his) also cut ties with my ex-husband. My brother and my ex are friends, and I had no choice but to end contact with my brother. We were never close, so it really was a relief.

My ex still has one expensive obligation to fulfill, according to the terms of the divorce. We have very minimal contact, and when that obligation is fulfilled, I'll be able to be completely done with him. I strictly adhere to the No Contact rule whenever possible. It's becoming easier every day.

[4887123]

9. Actually

We don't share friends frankly. She just reaches out to them unsolicited. They of course block her. As for my family, my cousin that she reached out to also blocked her. So she's been shut out and it infuriates her.

[Rorey]

10. I'm so glad that they're supportive

My ex pulled out his fake tears several times about not being allowed to have a relationship with my grandchildren (decision made by their parents, my kids).

He can turn those tears on and off like a faucet.

It's funny how things become so obvious once you step out of the situation.

[4887123]

13. Yes

Narcissists are a piece of work. I'm sure your ex tried to turn the tables on you completely. We just have to stay strong and realize we are dealing with a delusional entity.

[Rorey]

14. Yes, he did

Unbeknownst to me, he had been bad-mouthing me to everyone who would listen to him for at least a year, during which time he started having an affair. When I found out how he had been bad-mouthing me, it really hurt for awhile. Now I'm in a place where I just don't care about him at all. I'm living my life, focusing on my own family. He's out of the way, finally, so I can focus on reality instead of being wrapped up in that nightmare world of a very messed up creature.

I could go on and on all day, but I'll just say that my true saviors in all of it were my kids (all adults), youtube, and journaling. I'm in a super good place now emotionally, and stronger than I've ever been in my life.

[duforsure]

7. Trump is already using this as a weapon

Refusing any responsibility for anything, while accusing others with propaganda that others are always to blame. Now trump is desperately trying to get more powers to arrest and hold people in jail without a trial indefinitely. Is trump doing this on purpose to us? Is he trying to drive us into a depression for Putin? Nothing would surprise me from trump, nothing.

[Rorey]

8. Sometimes I wonder

If 45 were to suddenly expire, how long would his supporters and enablers continue to enable him, even as his disgusting orange carcass was rotting. Would that kiss-ass group of wimps who stand behind him during these pressers continue to keep their lips pressed together, or would they finally speak out?

[tanyev]

11. Have you seen the movie The Death of Stalin?

It’s a very dark humorous look at how Stalin’s inner circle turned on each other immediately after his death. It did make me laugh but it was also very disturbing as I kept picturing the Trump administration as I watched it.

[Rorey]

12. Thanks, I'll check it out

I've gotta make sure I'm in the right frame of mind for a disturbing film.

I'm in the midst of re-watching the first two seasons of Ozark right now, in anticipation of the new season which premiers on the 27th.

[Brainfodder]

15. Nothing to sink in, been directly in our face about it for years?

[shockey80]

16. I have posted about this many times.

They can turn into serial killers. That's all you have to understand.

[babydollhead]

17. VINDICTIVE MALIGNANT NARCISSIST n/t

[SummerSnow]

18. The best way to deal with a narc is ' no contact'

My friends' ex husband hates that she does that to him. They have kids together and he is always trying to get a response out of her cause he wants combat. She never gives in to him. She had in drawn in the divorce through the court that he cannot talk to her, the only contact is through text and emails. he has tried to get this turned in court and they won't grant it cause the family court judge knows he is an abusive narc.