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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:17 PM Jan 2012

'I just planted seeds, I thought they were flowers': Grandmother, 67, busted for growing marijuana

'I just planted seeds, I thought they were flowers': Grandmother, 67, busted for growing marijuana in her garden

Grandmother Alberta Kelley has become the toke of the town.



The 67-year-old from southern Pennsylvania was accused of being a pot-smoking pensioner after police found seven well-cultivated four-foot marijuana plants growing in her garden.

But Kelley, from Fayette County, said she is innocent. The green-thumb said she unknowingly planted the seeds after being duped by a stranger.

How does your garden grow? Grandmother Alberta Kelley said was duped into planting the pot plants by a man who said they would look pretty in her garden

She told the judge and jury that a man she did not know approached her, gave her some seeds and told her if she planted them she would grow the prettiest flowers she has ever seen.

Kelley said the man had a beard and wore a Smurf hat.

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She was acquitted after the jury believed her version of events. She was not available for comment, but was undoubtedly on a high as she left the court - a natural one of course.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083386/Grandma-busted-growing-pot---claims-duped-planting-man-said-look-pretty.html#ixzz1ijrkYXEL

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'I just planted seeds, I thought they were flowers': Grandmother, 67, busted for growing marijuana (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 OP
LOL n/t RainDog Jan 2012 #1
She should be able to grow Cannaibs if she wants. tridim Jan 2012 #2
Agree 100%. MH1 Jan 2012 #37
The most she shoulda got was a warning... Kalidurga Jan 2012 #3
No. The most she should have gotten was Occulus Jan 2012 #6
The most she shoulda got was appreciation for her horticultural ability Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #26
A warning? surfdog Jan 2012 #41
they should've thrown the book at her.. frylock Jan 2012 #44
They shoulda pushed her down and busted her hip!! That'll learn her! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #48
LOL at your screen name! Romulox Jan 2012 #62
cmon, man. you should know me well enough by now to detect sarcasm frylock Jan 2012 #88
Jesus Christ. That's embarassing (for me!) Sorry! nt Romulox Jan 2012 #89
no worries.. frylock Jan 2012 #90
"Look, I'm better than you, okay? I just am." Romulox Jan 2012 #94
Surely you jest. ohheckyeah Jan 2012 #45
Funny, you sound a bit confused right there. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #46
Um, do you KNOW who that man in your avatar pic is? Do you KNOW what he was famous for? Romulox Jan 2012 #63
"You could've cut her feet off Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #67
THANK GOD. SOMEONE TAKES THIS AS SERIOUSLY AS THEY SHOULD!@!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #68
"Seniors are notorious for acting confused after getting caught shoplifting " dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #73
Oh?? Since I turned 65, I've been using this a lot. immoderate Jan 2012 #92
That's a great story!!! greytdemocrat Jan 2012 #4
Really, People? who was she hurtingwhether she knew what she was growing or not? Ecumenist Jan 2012 #5
I cannot believe the actually pressed charges on her in the first place. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2012 #7
I can. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #27
Oh right. "A man with a beard and a smurf hat gave me some seeds." That old chestnut. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #8
As I approach that age... Retrograde Jan 2012 #13
I'm in agreement with you. I have nothing against her growing pot and think Arkansas Granny Jan 2012 #43
I had a 30 year old neighbor who grew a pot plant and did not know what it was. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #74
One of my professors was growing a Japanese maple Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #76
If she wasn't into smoking pot why would she know what it looks like? ohheckyeah Jan 2012 #47
I'm 68 and she looks frogmarch Jan 2012 #14
southern PA has that effect on people. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #18
most old pot heads actually look younger n/t nebenaube Jan 2012 #24
I agree. I will be 73 next week RebelOne Jan 2012 #49
I too think the news probably got her age wrong. frogmarch Jan 2012 #51
That picture is not her. Check the link and you'll find it is some other PA Democrat Jan 2012 #95
The video won't play for me, frogmarch Jan 2012 #96
the picture is of Noelene Edwards, a 74-year old. provis99 Jan 2012 #22
Either the jury bought it Mariana Jan 2012 #71
Wow I'm glad to have killed the one we found ... Historic NY Jan 2012 #9
Actually, bird seed contains hemp seed. yella_dawg Jan 2012 #83
Whew! Thank God the War on Drugs is working! That was close! nt gateley Jan 2012 #10
Hahahah!!! They would have let my mom off too pipi_k Jan 2012 #11
And that's how the legend of Johnny Potseed was born Solly Mack Jan 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #30
There was lots of wild growth, when the Marihuana Tax Act was passed in 1937 Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #32
It actually does cyglet Jan 2012 #60
here's a REAL criminal RainDog Jan 2012 #15
Thank you!! roody Jan 2012 #17
welcome! RainDog Jan 2012 #19
in that first video shanti Jan 2012 #34
that guy RainDog Jan 2012 #55
Uh-huh. REP Jan 2012 #16
my thoughts exactly! (but anyone busted for pot is innocent in my book) n/t Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2012 #23
Good for her, then. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #28
So, ... I guess the cops won't be able to take her house under the drug forfeiture laws. Bozita Jan 2012 #20
:) bottom line Jan 2012 #21
WOO HOO! Throw away the fucking key!!! Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #25
Hey, at least in the USA... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #39
Who says there are no jobs, huh? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #53
And each one of them counts double on account of the size, right? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #58
Look at all of those huffing, out-of-shape, wheezing "law enforcement officers". Romulox Jan 2012 #65
found the mug shots of the perps RainDog Jan 2012 #29
Alberta and the Weedstock! boston bean Jan 2012 #31
My mom made this mistake Ratty Jan 2012 #33
lol tawadi Jan 2012 #35
my mom wouldn't know what it looked like either marlakay Jan 2012 #36
Opium poppies are regularly grown in New England gardens mainer Jan 2012 #38
poppies are legal to grow in the U.S. RainDog Jan 2012 #56
There was a report of a florist who got in trouble for using opium seedpods mainer Jan 2012 #91
we might be talking about the same general moment RainDog Jan 2012 #97
C'mon. This happened? Fuzz Jan 2012 #40
Tax it and legalize it, this country makes me ill. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #42
Why tax it? ohheckyeah Jan 2012 #50
If it's going to be sold as a regulated product like booze, it should be taxed. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #54
What were the police doing in her back yard? Matariki Jan 2012 #52
Umm yeah.. right... ddeclue Jan 2012 #57
I know, it's hard to believe Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #69
almost as unbelievable as her story.. ddeclue Jan 2012 #75
WELL THANK GOD SOMEONE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #77
civilization would fall if grandmothers were allowed to grow cannabis! RainDog Jan 2012 #78
I think they should call it "Grannabis" Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #79
They should have to SUFFER RainDog Jan 2012 #80
Sort of like how we can't have terminally ill patients addicted to pain meds. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #81
Yeah. The DEA is trying to tell doctors how to treat patients RainDog Jan 2012 #85
Hey I really don't care man.. I just think the story she's telling now is ridiculous.. ddeclue Jan 2012 #86
jury nullification may be the only path to legalization n/t yodermon Jan 2012 #59
I think she is not telling the truth, starting with her age n/t Mira Jan 2012 #61
You mean this MONSTER is now on the streets, free to garden again? Romulox Jan 2012 #64
lol. yeah. Lock your doors. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #66
Proof positive that the drug war has reached farcical proportions. marmar Jan 2012 #70
Oh, it's worse than most of us know in all sorts of ways. RainDog Jan 2012 #82
we're such a stupid nation sometimes spanone Jan 2012 #72
Just to clarify... yella_dawg Jan 2012 #84
The real question: How big was the SWAT team they used to bust her? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #87
I hope this is the beginning of a jury nullification movement in regards to cannabis. Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #93
SMURF HATER! RainDog Jan 2012 #98

tridim

(45,358 posts)
2. She should be able to grow Cannaibs if she wants.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:19 PM
Jan 2012

And she should be able to smoke it or put the flowers in a vase.

MH1

(19,156 posts)
37. Agree 100%.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 03:15 PM
Jan 2012

People shouldn't be criminalized just for growing a plant that grows naturally in the locale and isn't invasive. (People who plant pachysandra, on the other hand .... j/k!)

If a person grows a plant on their own property and isn't selling it or giving it to minors, the government should stay out of it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. The most she shoulda got was a warning...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jan 2012

seriously looks like a case of over zealous prosecution.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
6. No. The most she should have gotten was
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:26 PM
Jan 2012

NOTHING

because this plant should be legal in the first place.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. The most she shoulda got was appreciation for her horticultural ability
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 05:09 AM
Jan 2012

the war on pot is fucking idiotic and out of control.

 

surfdog

(624 posts)
41. A warning?
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jan 2012

The lady was growing drugs

And her story sounds like total BS

Seniors are notorious for acting confused after getting caught shoplifting

Sounds like she played the confused card and got away with it , something that wouldn't work for me

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
62. LOL at your screen name!
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jan 2012

You want to glom onto the cool of the drug-culture (um, ATHF?) but then want to talk tough on the internet about rousting pot-heads.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
94. "Look, I'm better than you, okay? I just am."
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jan 2012

Sorry again, man. Sometimes, I just see red and go into a posting-gasm.

I'm not going to edit, because I think it reflects on me, not you!

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
45. Surely you jest.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jan 2012

She played the confused card? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that statement.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
63. Um, do you KNOW who that man in your avatar pic is? Do you KNOW what he was famous for?
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 08:17 PM
Jan 2012

Is it embarrassing to not understand context?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
68. THANK GOD. SOMEONE TAKES THIS AS SERIOUSLY AS THEY SHOULD!@!!!!!!
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jan 2012

I WONT BE HAPPY UNTIL OUR PRISONS ARE FULL OF ALL THESE POT TOKING HELL-GRANNIES! THROW THE FUCKING BOOK AT EM, I SAY!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,160 posts)
73. "Seniors are notorious for acting confused after getting caught shoplifting "
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:14 AM
Jan 2012

Broadbrush much?

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
92. Oh?? Since I turned 65, I've been using this a lot.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 04:07 PM
Jan 2012

Being that confused requires a lot of self confidence.

--imm

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. I can.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 05:10 AM
Jan 2012

We let rapists and murderers go free so we can make more room for pot smokers in prison.

yellowcanine

(36,792 posts)
8. Oh right. "A man with a beard and a smurf hat gave me some seeds." That old chestnut.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:31 PM
Jan 2012

And the jury bought it. Sly old grandma. Sh looks older than 67 by the way. Must be from all that toking.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
13. As I approach that age...
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:02 AM
Jan 2012

I have to remind you young whippersnappers that sex, drugs and rock'n'roll are not new inventions. Someone who is now 67 was in his or her twenties in, say, 1967. Unless she spent her early adult years cloistered on Mars I think it's unlikely she's totally unaware of what marijuana plants look like.

I don't smoke, but I still say legalize it.

Arkansas Granny

(32,265 posts)
43. I'm in agreement with you. I have nothing against her growing pot and think
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jan 2012

we should all have the right to do so. However, I find it hard to believe that she didn't recognize the plants when they started growing. Even non-tokers of that age have probably seen enough pictures, if not the real thing, to know what it looks like.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,160 posts)
74. I had a 30 year old neighbor who grew a pot plant and did not know what it was.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:25 AM
Jan 2012

and I had another neighbor who panicked when she found a false aralia growing in her yard.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
47. If she wasn't into smoking pot why would she know what it looks like?
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jan 2012

I've never seen a marijuana plant - I've seen plenty of baggies of the stuff but not the plant itself.

frogmarch

(12,251 posts)
14. I'm 68 and she looks
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jan 2012

quite a lot older than I do, and I think I look about right for 68.

I wonder why she looks so old. I didn't know pot could cause that.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
49. I agree. I will be 73 next week
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jan 2012

and I do not have near the wrinkles that lady does. I think the news probably get her age wrong. I think she is probably 83.

frogmarch

(12,251 posts)
51. I too think the news probably got her age wrong.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jan 2012

I've never known anyone in their 60s or 70s to look that old.

PA Democrat

(13,428 posts)
95. That picture is not her. Check the link and you'll find it is some other
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jan 2012

elderly woman arrested for possession of pot. The caption under her photo reads:
Arrested: Great-grandmother Noelene Edwards, 74, also claims her innocence, after she was arrested with 40 bags of marijuana in her handbag

Video of 67 year-old Alberta Kelley here:

http://www.wtae.com/video/30144638/detail.html

frogmarch

(12,251 posts)
96. The video won't play for me,
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:23 PM
Jan 2012

and I don't see the picture of Noelene Edwards at the link, but I certainly believe you that the picture we've been talking about isn't of 67 year-old Alberta Kelley.

Thanks.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
22. the picture is of Noelene Edwards, a 74-year old.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:37 AM
Jan 2012

she's the one with forty bags of marijuana in her handbag.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
9. Wow I'm glad to have killed the one we found ...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jan 2012

growing in the wood behind my property. I think the birds must have picked up a seed or two from the pot head kid up the street.

yella_dawg

(2,860 posts)
83. Actually, bird seed contains hemp seed.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:55 PM
Jan 2012

At least some formulations do. Take care if you dump your bird cage refuse in the flower beds because it's great fertilizer. I ended up with a plant in the flower beds that way.


pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
11. Hahahah!!! They would have let my mom off too
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:52 PM
Jan 2012

Years ago when my younger brother (17 years younger than I am) was a teenager he had a small pot plant growing in our mom's kitchen window.

She didn't know what it was, so when my brother went on a camping trip with some friends, he asked her to take care of it. Well, my mom has a black thumb.

And she ended up killing it.

And on top of it, felt horribly guilty.

Until years later when she found out she was really caring for a baby pot plant.



Response to Solly Mack (Reply #12)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
32. There was lots of wild growth, when the Marihuana Tax Act was passed in 1937
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 09:35 AM
Jan 2012

Eradication of wild marijuana was one of the top priorities, although the scope of the plant's growth meant such efforts were limited to following tips and random finds, they did in fact eradicate much of the wild growth.

cyglet

(529 posts)
60. It actually does
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jan 2012

they send out law enforcement to eradicate it in the summers. (Your tax dollars at work.)

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
15. here's a REAL criminal
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:14 AM
Jan 2012


From the documentary Stoned in Suburbia



She was sentenced to community service and vows to continue what she was doing.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
19. welcome!
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:53 AM
Jan 2012

the entire video of the first one is available on google vid. it's hysterical - the woman with really long blond hair talks about how she looooooved jimi, in the biblical sense.

shanti

(21,799 posts)
34. in that first video
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
Jan 2012

about the 6:30 mark, the man says he smokes 1/2 an OUNCE a day, wut?!!!

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
55. that guy
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jan 2012

was one of the biggest smugglers of the 1960s.

he's sort of a legend. he made millions.

REP

(21,691 posts)
16. Uh-huh.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jan 2012

My mom (77) plays the sweet old lady card when she gets busted speeding in her 400HP car. Old doesn't equal dumb. Or sweet.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. Good for her, then.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 05:12 AM
Jan 2012

It's a dumb fucking law, and well past time we stopped harassing people for a harmless plant.

The smurf hat thing was a nice touch, though.

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
20. So, ... I guess the cops won't be able to take her house under the drug forfeiture laws.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:15 AM
Jan 2012

Both the cops and the prosecutors involved are real assholes.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. WOO HOO! Throw away the fucking key!!!
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 05:07 AM
Jan 2012

DRUGZ IZ BAD! DRUGGZ IZ BAD!! And fightin' teh drugzz is lucrative shit, man! $$$$$$$$$





Keep smokin that weed, little old cancer grannies!!!! we'll build more prison cells!

LOCK EM UP! LOCK EM UP! WOOOHOOOO $$$$$

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
53. Who says there are no jobs, huh?
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 06:59 PM
Jan 2012

Look, they're employing probably 12 dudes there, all to kick down the door of one stoner and haul her off to prison at taxpayer expense.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
58. And each one of them counts double on account of the size, right?
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 07:39 PM
Jan 2012

Looks like two offensive lines.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
33. My mom made this mistake
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
Jan 2012

When the next door tenants moved out she brought all their potted plants over to our yard. There she tended them until my brother came into the kitchen one morning and announced "You're all under arrest!" (he was kidding - he's not a cop). Needless to say that sweet lady was horrified.

marlakay

(13,282 posts)
36. my mom wouldn't know what it looked like either
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jan 2012

when i was a teen in the early 70's me and some friends had a few plants in a small planter, she had no idea…

and she thought the smell was incense…lol

mainer

(12,554 posts)
38. Opium poppies are regularly grown in New England gardens
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jan 2012

They're really gorgeous, too. I've even seen them growing in the historic garden of an art museum. The law is unclear as to whether you can be prosecuted for having them in your yard.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
56. poppies are legal to grow in the U.S.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 07:13 PM
Jan 2012

including the kind that are used to make opium.

however, it is illegal to grow them for the purpose of making a drug... iow, they're legal to grow as an ornamental.

in the pot granny video I posted upthread, she's growing poppies right out in the open while being arrested for growing cannabis for herself and her friends.

I assume the person who made this video included those poppies on purpose - to make a little point for those who would "get it."

one guy in the U.S. was targeted for growing poppies in his yard b/c he wrote a book about how to use them. the rationale is that he was growing them "with intent to do something illegal."

mainer

(12,554 posts)
91. There was a report of a florist who got in trouble for using opium seedpods
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:57 PM
Jan 2012

in floral arrangements. That's where the whole debate came up about whether they're legal or not to grow. I asked a gardening columnist from the NYT about this, and even she wasn't sure.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
97. we might be talking about the same general moment
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:08 PM
Jan 2012

it is legal to grow the particular variety of poppy that produces opium. it's not legal to use this pod as a source of an illegal substance.

the DEA doesn't like it that people grow ORNAMENTAL flowers - at what point do we tell these folks to get the fuck out of our lives?!?!?!?

the war against gardening is absurd. I would never want to extract the material from poppy pods. however, I do like poppy seed bagels. if I had gone wild with them the day before a drug test, I could have a false positive for opium. I've made a traditional Polish poppy seed cake for christmas - the level of poppies far exceeds that on bagels. I guess I was a criminal as a teenager and didn't know it.

this article, from the wonderful writer, Michael Pollan, talks about the incident that led to a raid on a guy who wrote about his experiments with his garden.

http://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/opium-made-easy/

the flip side of this is that the former Deputy Drug Czar under Bush Jr., who stated medical cannabis was ridiculous, is now shilling for the company that wants to market medical cannabis in the U.S.

another Bush WoD appointee is also working for them.

They are trying to claim that THEIR cannabis isn't the same as the cannabis grown in the U.S. (Their cannabis is currently grown in the UK and their attempt to keep cannabis illegal to grow here is to outsource growing their cannabis for the U.S. to Japan.)

This is simply another example of the way in which corporations are entitled to more civil rights and liberties than American citizens. Makes me want to puke.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1170&pid=123

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
54. If it's going to be sold as a regulated product like booze, it should be taxed.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jan 2012

Many people will want to go to the trouble of growing their own legal weed, many won't feel like bothering. For the folks who want to buy it at 7-11 like a 6 pack, they can pay taxes on it.

People can brew up to a certain amount of beer for themselves at home every month, legally, even though sold alcohol is regulated and taxed. I would think a similar situation could be arranged for legal pot.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
77. WELL THANK GOD SOMEONE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 06:44 PM
Jan 2012

Just think what would have happened if she had been allowed to grow that plant in peace!

FUCKING CHAOS, THAT'S WHAT!

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
78. civilization would fall if grandmothers were allowed to grow cannabis!
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 06:53 PM
Jan 2012

who would EVER trust them to bake cookies with their grandkids again?!?!?!?!?

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
80. They should have to SUFFER
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jan 2012

the aches and pains of aging. Why should they ever assume they have a right to decide what foods or medicines to put into their bodies. The state should be able to tell everyone what to do with their bodies!

It's moral to think you have the right to cause pain and suffering!

Think of the children!!!!

They might grow up and tell the govt to fuck off!!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
81. Sort of like how we can't have terminally ill patients addicted to pain meds.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jan 2012

St. Peter will be mad if he has to detox them at the pearly gates!

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
85. Yeah. The DEA is trying to tell doctors how to treat patients
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jan 2012

those patients with chronic pain - by second-guessing their dx's and targeting doctors who are pain specialists.

it's a good thing my head can't explode from processing all the insanity that goes on in the name of the WoD.

Our WoDder, who art in D.C.
Corruption be thy name
Thy profits come
Thy will be done
Or thee will kick our asses.

 

ddeclue

(16,733 posts)
86. Hey I really don't care man.. I just think the story she's telling now is ridiculous..
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 10:11 PM
Jan 2012

If it were up to me legalize and tax.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
82. Oh, it's worse than most of us know in all sorts of ways.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jan 2012

Check this out -

The former deputy drug czar under Shrub is now working for Bayer/GW Pharma to make pharma cannabis legal while keeping American-grown cannabis illegal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1170&pid=123

yella_dawg

(2,860 posts)
84. Just to clarify...
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jan 2012

I have a full beard and on occasion do, indeed, wear a smurf hat. I have not, however, been in Pennsylvania in over thirty years.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
87. The real question: How big was the SWAT team they used to bust her?
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 10:14 PM
Jan 2012

How many vans, helicopters, semi-automatic weapons & bulletproof vests did they have?


How much money did all this useless shit cost the state?

Uncle Joe

(65,134 posts)
93. I hope this is the beginning of a jury nullification movement in regards to cannabis.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jan 2012

There is no logical or just reason for MJ not being legalized, this war against the people is counterproductive, dysfunctional, draconian, unjust and unAmerican.

On the other hand Smurf Hats for adults should be outlawed.

Thanks for the thread, Liberal_in_LA.

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