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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is going to run on his Coronavirus Response
His #'s are up
People are loving it
We are through the looking glass
LiberalFighter
(51,036 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,032 posts)People have a short attention span so, god willing, when this thing ends, his ratings will go back to normal.
lame54
(35,315 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,032 posts)basement is 37%. He hit that for a few weeks in 2017. I dont think it will ever go lower than that.
ooky
(8,926 posts)families start dying.
lame54
(35,315 posts)Celerity
(43,485 posts)this will be their own family members
aka the 'good guys' (in MAGAt's brains)
lame54
(35,315 posts)Celerity
(43,485 posts)able to overcome (and be reelected) say, 1.5 millions deaths in the US, including huge swathes of his core goons' families, then without a shred of the doubt the US is headed for a dissolution of the union within 15 to 20 years max, for a literal multiplicity of deeply structural and socio-cultural reasons.
For but one example, if Trump takes the SCOTUS to 7-2 or even 8-1 (Sotomayor has horrid chronic diabetes) HARD RW, plus replaces Thomas with a much younger version of thug, that alone will be a fundamental driver of the break-up, as the Red States will flood the Federal courts (who will be by then even more stacked with crazed RWe'ers after 4 more Trumpian years as long as the Senate is in Rethug control) with test cases that are intended to roll back ALL post-Brown v Board (and Brown itself) civil rights. Then Trump and the Rethugs will not just devolve things back to the states, but will try, via federal force if necessary, to initiate a Gilead-style radical RW Xian theocracy. The Blue states will never submit, and will start to make moves towards succession.
nature-lover
(1,470 posts)ooky
(8,926 posts)stages of the disease and they can't get help because their local health systems are starting to reach capacity amidst escalating cases. This rodeo is just getting started. Give it 2-3 more weeks of progression and all this stupid right wing tough talk about going to work and to church and sacrificing grandma and grandpa for the economy will dissipate, at which time it will all turn very ugly for Donald Trump. He isn't going to be able to bullshit his way through this.
Butterflylady
(3,547 posts)The economy is what he's counting on!!!!!!
Celerity
(43,485 posts)Zero chance he will be able to run of his 'response'.
The carnage in the Red States, who are refusing to close, etc, is going to be immense.
Turin_C3PO
(14,032 posts)Personally Im scared to death of this virus because I have Cystic Fibrosis and would very likely die if I contract this. So if Trump ends up getting me killed, Im going to haunt his ass.
ooky
(8,926 posts)my only good way to survive this is to not get it until there is a vaccine. I am digging into isolation for the long haul. I don't see a choice.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)40s is shockingly bad.
lame54
(35,315 posts)Which are reelection numbers
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)lame54
(35,315 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Using each new story as a springboard for what seems like pathological pessimism.
You do you, though.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Trump is at 44% on 538. Let's see where his numbers are when the death toll hits five figures.
lame54
(35,315 posts)He has definitely gotten a bump from this
How can i not be down when he is being SO OBVIOUSLY INCOMPETENT every step of the way and yet his numbers go up
That leads to frustration confusion and helplessness
Saying that he will lose because many are going to die is so 4 years ago thinking
John Fante
(3,479 posts)45-46% approval ratings for the most part. Even Rasmussen has him at 46% in their latest poll, and they usually rate him higher.
Turin_C3PO
(14,032 posts)But I doubt they will.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)To give it context.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)it makes him look like he's in charge. The media cannot fact check his Firehose of Falsehoods in real time, and Dr. Fauci is too nice most of the time to really call out Trump. So, if people tune out after the conference is over, they won't see the media fact checking him afterwards.
lame54
(35,315 posts)underpants
(182,868 posts)Women. Specifically suburban women. The Dems are killing it with suburban women.
Trump doesn't understand or care. He referred to Dr. Birx by her first name at least 3 times yesterday. Not all publicity is good publicity regardless of the truism.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)lame54
(35,315 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,454 posts)Phoenix61
(17,013 posts)bodies havent started stacking up yet. Ill be 59 and I can still remember seeing the images of body bags stacked up on the evening news during the Vietnam War. When the media starts showing those images his ratings will sink.
lame54
(35,315 posts)Nothing is normal
We may be on 5th ave
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)My Mom would look at them, shake her head and cry.
Phoenix61
(17,013 posts)I wondered if they used the same numbers there but just switched the names.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)The numbers will be even more horrifying by then, the economy will still be staggering along trying to recover, and there is video of him saying itll be just 15 people, that he wants people to go back to work a week from now, etc.
There would have been a pandemic no matter what he did, but if he had listened to experts instead of the voices in his head, he would have ordered PPE and ventilators in January and the health care system would not be nearly as strained. His decisions and his alone will have made this utterly catastrophic rather than painful.
If Putin cant hack the election, he will lose.
budkin
(6,713 posts)He's not going to run on that.
Phoenix61
(17,013 posts)people get what is going to happen. Id guess some think its just a big city thing and since they live in a rural area theyll be ok. If they counted the hospital beds around them theyd realize they may be even more screwed than their big city cousins.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)People will start looking at their 401ks.
There will be congressional hearings about the mishandling of the testing process. Mass subpoenas of records, etc. It will be a big story right around the time of the election.
The media will shift from covering body counts to digging into what went wrong. I suspect there will be a lot of leaks.
We will have enormous sums of money spent to define his response to corona by people like Bloomberg that are likely to be quite brutal.
We are still likely to have a high unemployment rate at the time of the election.
It will be a steady drip drip drip effect sometimes coming in torrents. He should be polling in the 70s and 80s. By the time he's done getting his teeth kicked in over the next 7 months anyone not in the cult will not only think he did a shitty job on the virus, they will think he created it at mar a lago.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)what he claims his response is.
The ghost of Goebbels must be proud.
Crunchy Frog
(26,615 posts)Maybe Americans has simply reached the end of its natural lifespan.
Meantime, the Dems really need to be out front on this, informing the public as to why this "response" is not acceptable, and about what a real president would be doing.
JCMach1
(27,569 posts)Let's see how they feel then...
blitzen
(4,572 posts)and so he will fare worse than in 2016.
mitch96
(13,924 posts)lame54
(35,315 posts)mitch96
(13,924 posts)I noticed a bunch of cars in front of one of my neighbors homes. As I walked by I saw a bunch of people, about 15 I guess sitting around a big table out in the back yard.. They were talking and joking, the kids running around like nothing was happening in the world...
I don't want to pass judgement on their actions just that what they were doing was wrong...
All I could do was shake my head......
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mitch96
(13,924 posts)HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Just the reality show about it. Ratings not votes.
budkin
(6,713 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)he will SCREAM about what a success his "treatment" was to the U.S. I can see it now..."if it were not for my GREAT WORK, we would have lost 10 million."