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OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:56 AM Mar 2020

Why don't all the Blue State Governors, and any other willing Governor like Charlie Baker, get

together, and agree to pool the purchasing of PPE, ventilators etc, through one of them, to stop the bidding war ? Plus they can move supplies between each other, like ventilators.

Yes that's what the Federal Government should be doing but Trump is stopping them at that level.

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Why don't all the Blue State Governors, and any other willing Governor like Charlie Baker, get (Original Post) OnDoutside Mar 2020 OP
Because they, unlike Trump, don't have the Defense Production act, and the ability pnwmom Mar 2020 #1
So does tRump. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #2
I would give anything to go back to any of them. They are just normal people with serious flaws pnwmom Mar 2020 #3
What Trump is doing to the states just angers me to no end. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #4
I agree with you. Scarsdale Mar 2020 #8
But the states can still pool their bidding; they don't need the DPA for that. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #7
Exactly. Pool what you can pool. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #9
But they can't force the companies to work for them at a REASONABLE price or to limit their exports. pnwmom Mar 2020 #10
Cuomo was saying that he put in an order at $4, and then he was outbid by another state, at $5, who OnDoutside Mar 2020 #11
And suppose a group of states here banded together. pnwmom Mar 2020 #15
It would encourage the other states to join them, and even if the US Government were doing their OnDoutside Mar 2020 #17
The Defense Production Act would allow the Fed. govt. to require companies to sign contracts pnwmom Mar 2020 #19
I agree with all that, but where the States are now (i.e. Trump blocking Fed intervention), states OnDoutside Mar 2020 #20
Trump has them over a barrel! True Blue American Mar 2020 #13
They can still unite to work wnylib Mar 2020 #21
They are trying. True Blue American Mar 2020 #22
Yes, I know. I am in NY state. wnylib Mar 2020 #23
AOC True Blue American Mar 2020 #24
Yes, I read about that. wnylib Mar 2020 #25
Trump and bush are the same. Starting a war based on lies is pretty big criminal act. rockfordfile Mar 2020 #5
I was just about to post the exact same thing. royable Mar 2020 #6
Andy Slavitt, who did great work on the ACA, is on the latest Preet Bharara podcast. He would be the OnDoutside Mar 2020 #12
Guess what else has slipped through the news? True Blue American Mar 2020 #14
Republican Clerical Error....what are the chances ? OnDoutside Mar 2020 #16
I do hope Preet True Blue American Mar 2020 #18

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
1. Because they, unlike Trump, don't have the Defense Production act, and the ability
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:59 AM
Mar 2020

to order companies to retool for producing critically needed supplies.

The companies have them over the barrel.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
2. So does tRump.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:07 AM
Mar 2020

I really want someone to beat the crap out of him (repeatedly). I am a 5'1" female and a pacifist and I want this, badly! I have never felt like this about anyone before him...this the level of hate is new to me and I really HATED Bushes1&2 and Reagun. He is worse than them and Nixon combined.

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
3. I would give anything to go back to any of them. They are just normal people with serious flaws
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:19 AM
Mar 2020

and positions I strongly disagree with.

Trump is a monster.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. What Trump is doing to the states just angers me to no end.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:27 AM
Mar 2020

It is indefensible. We are undergoing a national emergency and he is playing politics and toying with the governors of states that he holds personal grudges against. That is not how a president or a leader should ever behave.

He is also looking for a way to make a profit for himself and his family off this tragedy which should be a federal crime during a time like this. Has there ever been a more contemptible president in the history of this nation? His behavior enrages me. I can't even say what I wish his fate to be. I completely understand where you are coming from.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
8. I agree with you.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:11 AM
Mar 2020

As soon as he shows up for one of his "appearances" I start swearing. I LOATHE him with a burning passion. Those fools who stand behind him, nodding their heads annoy me too. tRump is a braindead idiot.

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
10. But they can't force the companies to work for them at a REASONABLE price or to limit their exports.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:22 AM
Mar 2020

Only the Feds can do that.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
11. Cuomo was saying that he put in an order at $4, and then he was outbid by another state, at $5, who
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:48 AM
Mar 2020

was outbid at €6 a unit. i.e. they're participating in a bidding war.

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
15. And suppose a group of states here banded together.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:07 AM
Mar 2020

They would be in a bidding war with the rest of the states AND with other countries around the world.

China has been making most of the world's masks, for example -- but they're keeping most of them there now, so we're not the only country having a shortage.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
17. It would encourage the other states to join them, and even if the US Government were doing their
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:22 AM
Mar 2020

job, they would be bidding against other countries anyway. However, Cuomo was talking in terms of bidding against other states.

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
19. The Defense Production Act would allow the Fed. govt. to require companies to sign contracts
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:45 AM
Mar 2020

and not ship the products overseas. The states couldn't exercise that kind of control.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
20. I agree with all that, but where the States are now (i.e. Trump blocking Fed intervention), states
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:21 AM
Mar 2020

can do a little of that by pooling their sourcing of equipment.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
13. Trump has them over a barrel!
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:52 AM
Mar 2020

Because Trump will not invoke the act they are all competing against each other. If he invoked it the supply line would stabilize.

Trump was on Hannity last night complaining about those Governors. People need to boycott his sponsors. Shut him down.

wnylib

(21,428 posts)
21. They can still unite to work
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:34 AM
Mar 2020

together on locating supplies, suppliers, and manufacturers. There are foundations and individuals who are donating money. The governors need to request that the donations be targeted at the manufacture of ventilators. We, as a nation, need to circumvent the sadism and incompetence of Genocidal Trump and his Death squad.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
24. AOC
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:25 AM
Mar 2020

Just spoke on the House Floor. Most in both parties are speaking in favor of the bill.AOC shamed the $500 billion bailout.

royable

(1,264 posts)
6. I was just about to post the exact same thing.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:28 AM
Mar 2020

I've thought about that a lot over the past few weeks as the crisis has deepened due to covid-45's criminal behavior. I've also thought that this consortium of states could have knowledgeable spokespeople provide factual information to the public to counter the misadministration's lies.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
12. Andy Slavitt, who did great work on the ACA, is on the latest Preet Bharara podcast. He would be the
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:49 AM
Mar 2020

perfect person to do it.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
14. Guess what else has slipped through the news?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:57 AM
Mar 2020

The Senate was getting ready to vote on the bill. Chuck Schumer noticed that paragraph was not in the bill. He held it up for 2 hours until they printed it in.

Clerical Error was the reason given.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
18. I do hope Preet
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:42 AM
Mar 2020

Is in the next Democratic Administration! What a great AG he would make to clean up the DOJ after Barr!

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