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Under The Radar

(3,388 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:01 PM Mar 2020

Trumps scoreboard mentality- he is losing

Today he held a pep rally lowering the bar for victory at somewhere below 200,000 deaths.
So he blew his first call when we had one confirmed case of corona virus, “it is contained”
Next blown move was a couple of days later when it was “15 which would be near zero in a couple of days”
He was told today to expect 100,000 to 200,000. So he chooses 200k as the bar which is obviously a loss, but if he beats 200k then he has covered the spread...
so he asked the worlds greatest experts what would it have been if he had not acted at all and the response was 2.2 million deaths.....which is like saying “yes I lost but at least I showed up and did better than Hillary could have”
This will just be starting to die down in July, And likely safe to get out the Vote in November.
He has been entirely too lucky, but I can’t see him pulling this one out....even if fish tank clearer starts working

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Trumps scoreboard mentality- he is losing (Original Post) Under The Radar Mar 2020 OP
Time to toss him out azureblue Mar 2020 #1
We have been told bdamomma Mar 2020 #2
That is up to his cabinet to do that Under The Radar Mar 2020 #3
+1 (But tragically, we're not going to see Pence and 13 of 23 cabinet cronies/sycophants act) pat_k Mar 2020 #4
We have models projecting and comparing numbers... pat_k Mar 2020 #5
But isn't it a mute point... Under The Radar Mar 2020 #6
Tragically, there are nations that will probably suffer even more deaths per capita than the US pat_k Mar 2020 #7

azureblue

(2,119 posts)
1. Time to toss him out
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:04 PM
Mar 2020

This is the time to invoke the 25th amendment. When a president directly through his own neglect and stupidity, causes the deaths of Americans, he should be removed from office.

bdamomma

(63,304 posts)
2. We have been told
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:09 PM
Mar 2020

this by numerous Mental Health Professionals Psychiatrists and Psychologists that is he our biggest threat, he is a threat to himself and others.

He is criminally psychotic. Has been for a very long time. Way past the time to invoke the 25th. These are dangerous times.

But he is loosing it mentally. Calling a reporter "cutie pie"? verbally going after the Woman PBS reporter, accusing Drs and Nurses of stealing??? He needs to go now, he is killing Americans and does not care.

Under The Radar

(3,388 posts)
3. That is up to his cabinet to do that
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:11 PM
Mar 2020

Which is now full of “acting” cabinet members that are unqualified yes men.
We are 8 months away from Election Day, Trump is his own worst enemy. Just ride the wave, and make Joe pledge to make Robert DeNiro the attorney general so that Trump lives the rest of his life in prison.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
5. We have models projecting and comparing numbers...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:23 PM
Mar 2020

... assuming social distancing continues vs. "back to business as usual."

What I wan't to see is a model of projected cases/deaths, if they had not lost the first 7 critical weeks to obstruction and incompetence. It's the comparison of those estimates to how things play out given the lost opportunity to contain that Americans should hear about.

Under The Radar

(3,388 posts)
6. But isn't it a mute point...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:32 PM
Mar 2020

If the United States has the most infected and the most deaths of all countries which we will have?
It doesn’t mater what he did to restrict Chinese nationals from traveling or closing flights from Italy after the disease had spread throughout Europe.
Nothing he did maters because it didn’t work! Whatever he did is worse than any nation on earth including the most populous China.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
7. Tragically, there are nations that will probably suffer even more deaths per capita than the US
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:41 AM
Mar 2020

Our population is about 5.5 times that of Italy. Italy has already suffered over 10,000 deaths. Tragically, Italy will see more death before they reach the end of this. If we assume they are at, or near, the "apex" of the curve, they are likely to lose as many people on the "downward side" as they did on the "upward side," or total of 20,000 loves ones lost (equivalent to 110,000 loves ones lost here).

If the effect of strong social distancing and precautions keeps numbers here within the currently projected range of about 40,0000 to 160,000, the US is not going to be the world's example of the worst outcome. It is even possible that heroic efforts on the part of some states could keep the numbers on the low end -- and may we ALL hope that is still possible.

However things play out, the fact is, we SHOULD have served as an example of the BEST management, or at least be up there near the top of the list when all is said and done. We know that will not be the case.

I want to know what the projections would be if we had acted as soon as there was a test on 1/13, if things had played out as they could have/should have, I think the 7 weeks of obstruction and incompetence is going to cost tens of thousands of lives, but right now, I have nothing to base that on because I haven't seen any projections of "what could have been" if our government had done the right thing.

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