Possibly important info...we all may need masks.

[jeffreyi]

Link to tweet

?s=19

[ProudMNDemocrat]

1. I have been sewing masks daily for a week now...

Averaging 30 plus a day. Awaiting more interfacing that I ordered.

[Kaleva]

3. +1!

[Pacifist Patriot]

7. You've probably posted this somewhere before, but...

do you have a link to a pattern/instructions? My sewing skills are decidedly average, but I could probably manage to make some with the right guidance.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

20. The segment from Rachel Maddow Show

[link:http:// https://www.deaconess.com/How-to-make-a-Face-Mask|

[Marrah_Goodman]

27. Since elastic is nearly impossible to get now I have an addition to that pattern

Substitute 18 inch ties, 4 of them, for the 2 pieces of elastic.

[Grasswire2]

46. shoe laces work, too. nt

[Marrah_Goodman]

57. Great idea!

I have been using satin cord ( mostly because I mistakenly ordered it thinking it was the elastic cording ) and it's working well.

[Dream Girl]

47. Wat do you mean by "its"?

[Marrah_Goodman]

56. I don't see "its" anywhere in my post. I am confused

[Dream Girl]

58. Sorry means to say ties.

[Marrah_Goodman]

60. Ohhhh LOL

By ties I mean using material or other things like cording or like someone else said, shoe laces, to make 4 "strings" that would tie together, 2 on the top back of the head and two on the bottom part of the back of the head.

https://www.drstreicher.com/dr-streicher-blog/2020/3/a-surgeon-sewing-a-surgical-mask

If you scroll down to the bottom there is a picture of how the tie ones go on.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

62. If you have fabric warehouses near you....

You can call and ask if they have 1/4 or a tad smaller rolls of elastic. A friend of mine sent me a roll from the warehouse we frequent for fabrics for commissions we do.

[Marrah_Goodman]

64. Thanks!!

[Pacifist Patriot]

36. You're awesome, thanks!

[Baitball Blogger]

31. .

[dalton99a]

2. The virus can survive in aerosols for up to 3 hours

Stay FAR away from people who sing and shout in public

[LisaL]

6. How are you going to do that?

Someone can start shouting at any minute, especially if they can't find that toilet paper.

[cwydro]

39. I can't think of anytime that I've witnessed such a thing lol.

[JudyM]

65. That research test actually *stopped* at 3 hours. It likely lasts longer, we don't know how long.

It can be transmitted through buildings in the HVAC system. This is not being taken seriously enough, like in assisted living facilities.

[rzemanfl]

4. ...

[TheBlackAdder]

28. And that also means it can enter the eyes or ear canal.

[rzemanfl]

33. Did you mean to reply to the OP? n/t

[zackymilly]

43. Yeah I don't see ears on that sock puppet. n/t

[TheBlackAdder]

48. It could. The sock puppet was in agreement.

[sdfernando]

53. its times like these I'm thankful

I wear glasses and hearing aids...yeah, I know this is not 100% effective, but every little bit helps!

[cwydro]

40. Lol, great gif!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Definitely if you're going to be around people who are singing.

All the choirs I know of, even the church choirs, have stopped rehearsing or performing for the duration. The fundie church choirs will probably keep going, though, because they think God will protect them.

[zackymilly]

44. Also stay away from people with Tourette Syndrome who may yell at you. n/t

[sdfernando]

55. I'm an amateur musician that plays in several groups....

all the groups stopped rehearsing in March and have canceled all performances until at least summer. I'm bummed about it but I know it is necessary.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

59. All the groups I know of,

including the one I'm in, have stopped rehearsing and performing, and I wonder if some of them will ever recover. So many small performing groups survive on grants and donations, which are likely to shrivel up as the economy slumps.

[sdfernando]

63. Yep...we are in the same predicament

we had already placed deposits on 2 venues for concerts in April and June. Not sure if we can get that $$ back but seems unlikely. We raise $$ off ticket sales to pay for the venues so this is going to hurt along with the rent for rehearsal space. Hoping that MCC church will waive the rental space fees for us....we will see.

[flamingdem]

8. It's obvious that we need masks. We were told no because

there weren't enough masks for hospitals. Why is another story - tRump got rid of the Obama era Office for Global Pandemics.

This virus is can become airborne. That means while it's a droplet at first - 5 microns - it can dry out if projected far enough and shrink in size and to become light enough to be airborne. A mask can block it.

[gibraltar72]

11. Or a Trumper may spit on you.

[at140]

16. The virus loves to get in through eyes!

If you wear mask, also wear ski-goggles.

[flamingdem]

22. The Korean MD video that was floating around here said glasses are okay

so you don't need to necessarily go full goggle!

[at140]

35. Ordinary glasses will not preven air-borne microscopic virus

cells floating in air getting into your eyes. Although wearing ordinary glasses is better than no glasses,
if someone sneezes straight towards you.

[apcalc]

9. How effective are these masks? Of what are they made?

[at140]

14. Virus can enter through eyes just as easy

and masks usually do not cover eyes.

[LisaL]

19. Put on glasses then.

[at140]

32. You need ski-goggles type glasses

The virus is airborne in microscopic form and ordinary glasses do not protect.
When I was younger than age 50, I was an avid down-hill snow skier and had very nice tight fitting goggles with my prescription lenses built in. It kept the cold air out of my eyes and tearing them.

[LisaL]

34. Again, if you don't have those, I am assuming regular glasses are better than nothing.

[at140]

37. Correct, ordinary glasses would be better than no glasses.

[Journeyman]

10. Disturbing. They were all close together, and exerting their lungs more than usual . . .

but it's definitely a game changer if proved true. I've observing 12 foot distances myself since this started. May have to become a norm for all.

[LisaL]

12. Most of them (in the choir) got infected and two died.

So I would say it has been proven true.

[Journeyman]

13. They were also close enough to transmit it via touch . . .

[LisaL]

18. They claim they weren't touching each other.

[Journeyman]

24. But they touched the doorknobs, shared the restrooms, used the same grab bars . . .

We touch our face somewhere between 15 and 25 times an hour (perhaps as many as 100, in some estimates), but if asked, few would say it was the higher range. They may not have touched among themselves, but they shared the rooms and that may prove enough. It may have been so mundane as someone passing out the sheet music.

[MoonlitKnight]

41. This

It is highly unlikely that it is aerosolized.

But those going to get takeout or drive thru have risk because the employees have had zero training and are not going contactless.

Just stay at home. If everyone would just stay at home for two to three weeks this would be under control. It’s the only option because testing was so badly botched.

[LisaL]

45. Almost all of them got infected. From that one practice.

[Journeyman]

50. Well, you've convinced yourself. No sense in further sharing my thoughts. . . .

[cutroot]

15. The virus will continue to mutate very quickly.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutations.html

[StatGirl]

17. Masks are a great idea.

Obviously the super high-grade masks need to go to health care workers.

But for the rest of us, masks can be not-great on an individual level and still have huge collective benefits.

For example:

Let's say I'm shedding virus but I don't know it. But because we have all decided to be careful, I'm wearing a mask, and so are you.

Maybe my transmission rate is cut by, say, 30%. And your "reception" rate is cut by, say, 20%. Crappy numbers, right?

But in any encounter between you and me, the probably of transmission is now 56% of what it would be without masks.

Here I need an epidemiologist to check my reasoning: Would this mean that the R0 drops from 2.4 to 56% of 2.4? If so, the new R0 is 1.344, and that would be a tremendous difference. The consequence to you is that your probability of being exposed to the disease drops dramatically, because any individual you encounter is far less likely to have it.

[Alex4Martinez]

21. HEPA filters are still in stores, used for vacuum cleaners, etc.

One needs to be sure that paper and not any type of glass fiber are the constituents.

I use a neck gaiter to keep squares of HEPA filter paper in place over my nose and mouth.

I use the microwave to sterilized the squares and the gaiter after each use.

[jberryhill]

25. +1

I don't think people realize the pores in fabric are many more orders of magnitude larger than the particle size of interest.

[Hortensis]

30. Oh, the gaiter's a good idea, thanks. I read that standard

cotton dish towels also rate very high. Something I noticed because, of course, after 40 years of always having vacuum bags in the utility closet, ours is now bagless.

[jeffreyi]

42. Great idea.

[LizBeth]

52. yesterday I heard them considering coffee filters. Again, these are perfect but bet it lessens odds

[Igel]

23. Not new.

Just new to her.

Search DU. It's been bandied about more than a shuttlecock at a badminton competition.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

[DenverJared]

26. Eye protection is as important as masks

and it is not being stressed enough.

Ultra-fine droplets can go into the eyes and infect.

[miyazaki]

29. I'm so surprised. Some countries have known this for, uh forevor.

I'll try to forget the many threads here that masks were next to useless.
Gambatte!

[RobinA]

38. I Read An Article

a year ago stating with reference to mask wearing during SARS that regular masks were of no help, so I'm not thinking this is something dreamed up by the CDC.

[LizBeth]

54. Because they lied. So tired of the damn lying leaving everyone hunting for correct information.

[ooky]

49. I don't know how effective it is but I have seen multiple articles

that coffee filters can be used in a pinch. I'm not linking because, again, I don't know how accurate this is, but it's easy to google for anyone interested in learning more about it.

[Firestorm49]

51. Impossible. The Exalted Leader said it was all under control.

A base of idiots like little lambs at FOX Entertainment.

[muriel_volestrangler]

61. Or there's that "6 feet apart" thing

because the choir wasn't doing that, back on March 10:

Cushioned metal chairs extended in six rows of 20, with about a foot between chairs and one aisle down the center. There were twice as many seats as people.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak