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kentuck

(111,272 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:36 AM Mar 2020

Who is fearful that if they get the coronavirus, it will be a death sentence for them?

Many that post on DU are older citizens and many have some pre-existing serious conditions.

So, it is natural and realistic, in my opinion, to think such thoughts.

But, if we all eat a lot of natural Vitamin C and keep our immune system as strong as possible, we may be able to survive this monster.

Don't give up. We need you.

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Who is fearful that if they get the coronavirus, it will be a death sentence for them? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2020 OP
We should be realistic and make sure our affairs are in order Sherman A1 Mar 2020 #1
I have lupus and I'm a type 2 diabetic. blueinredohio Mar 2020 #7
I have no assets. Just an insurance policy that will care for funeral and leave $40k. 2 adult kids. 3Hotdogs Mar 2020 #19
Please make a will mercuryblues Mar 2020 #26
Agreed with mercury blues above. There is a lot of administrative stuff for your kids. Lucky Luciano Mar 2020 #34
Again. there is no estate. No real property. No car. No cash. No savings account. 3Hotdogs Mar 2020 #57
Write your own will jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #35
In some (many? most?) states holographic (self-written) wills are not recognized hangaleft Mar 2020 #55
I am not as fearful for myself as I am for some people I love. madaboutharry Mar 2020 #2
What Sherman said SheltieLover Mar 2020 #3
im not afraid catsudon Mar 2020 #4
Never Give Up Ad Infinitum Mar 2020 #5
I feel bad about that. redwitch Mar 2020 #10
Yes I had pneumonia some years back and almost died... maptap22 Mar 2020 #6
I am probably in this category. I just had pneumonia justhanginon Mar 2020 #8
It will be a long line. bluescribbler Mar 2020 #42
Not fearful for myself snowybirdie Mar 2020 #9
hubbys been going thru immunotherapy to try to shrink a small tumor.. samnsara Mar 2020 #11
That is a very stressful situation. kentuck Mar 2020 #12
Here are my thoughts mchill Mar 2020 #60
I am and not giving up, barbtries Mar 2020 #13
I am. Jane Austin Mar 2020 #14
I am in the group most at risk duforsure Mar 2020 #15
I'm ok for myself Freddie Mar 2020 #16
I am Nikki28 Mar 2020 #17
We are thinking of you.. kentuck Mar 2020 #18
Don't see it as a death sentence, but understand those that do. Too many older people are surviving, Hoyt Mar 2020 #20
Yes. I am in a vulnerable situation. Walleye Mar 2020 #21
Hello in there. kentuck Mar 2020 #22
Thanks for the hello, beautiful thought. Walleye Mar 2020 #23
That's my belief too Mossfern Mar 2020 #29
We are here for a purpose. kentuck Mar 2020 #31
The Gods have become diseases. -- Carl Jung alterfurz Mar 2020 #24
Be strong, stay well. Talking 'bout our g-g-generation Walleye Mar 2020 #25
66 with bad lungs. MuseRider Mar 2020 #27
I'm 74 & in fair to middling health, just old. Basic LA Mar 2020 #28
We don't even have a Mossfern Mar 2020 #30
Asthmatic 73 year old here... lamp_shade Mar 2020 #32
None of us are going anywhere, JenniferJuniper Mar 2020 #33
me Botany Mar 2020 #36
Yes, definitely relate to that thought, and the immune idea bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #37
I think I would survive with permanent lung damage MaryMagdaline Mar 2020 #38
I feel I'm expendable. I have Large B Cell Lymphoma. No immunity. Ninga Mar 2020 #39
I have, according to my other half, have died 3 times and come back every time. Of course this ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #40
Not sure. ananda Mar 2020 #41
I've been on anti-rejection drugs for 6 months now. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #43
With me, might be fatal, might be nothing. DFW Mar 2020 #44
I'm at the top of the list. Butterflylady Mar 2020 #45
I worry, but not fearful. Aquaria Mar 2020 #46
I'm almost 65, high blood pressure and diabetic but I'm not worrying. MarianJack Mar 2020 #47
That's funny, that is, the BIG nalgas [ass] part. Ps. Take care. Paz. RestoreAmerica2020 Mar 2020 #62
I'm fairly certain it would be for me. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #48
Not me, but my relatives living with me. backscatter712 Mar 2020 #49
Vitamin C? Seriously? stopbush Mar 2020 #50
Yeah, I probably should have said a lot of fruits and vegetables. kentuck Mar 2020 #51
My hubs DUgosh Mar 2020 #52
At the doses recommended on Vit. C bottles, I agree that Vit. C won't be effective. However, in2herbs Mar 2020 #53
Can you suggest any decent brands for Vit. C and Lysine appalachiablue Mar 2020 #65
I take 20 drops of liquid maritime pine bark daily for maintenance. You can take it straight but I in2herbs Mar 2020 #66
Me. tazkcmo Mar 2020 #54
I was fearful enough mchill Mar 2020 #56
I'm in that high risk group. procon Mar 2020 #58
Part of me is thinking dying aint that bad right now, Earth is a pathetic place it turns out. Brainfodder Mar 2020 #59
I am not worried about myself, but this would kill my sister I'm pretty sure. lark Mar 2020 #61
I'm a goner Bayard Mar 2020 #63
If I get this I am done for. nevergiveup Mar 2020 #64
My son has convinced me, though I would be one to figure I have it on the odds. LizBeth Mar 2020 #67

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. We should be realistic and make sure our affairs are in order
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:41 AM
Mar 2020

As well. I’m likely in a higher risk category and have no illusions about how things might shake out.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
7. I have lupus and I'm a type 2 diabetic.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:48 AM
Mar 2020

I try to walk and eat decent. For the last year my a1c has been under 6. And maybe the built up Plaquenil will be my saving grace.

3Hotdogs

(12,697 posts)
19. I have no assets. Just an insurance policy that will care for funeral and leave $40k. 2 adult kids.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:42 AM
Mar 2020

I have about 30K in debt.

No will. There is nothing to distribute.


I left a simple note to bury me, cheap. That won't be hard given C-19 restrictions.

I told them, they shouldn't pay the unsecured credit card bills as they are not responsible. Also, don't use the insurance money to pay the credit card bills.

As Porky says, "That's all, folks."

mercuryblues

(14,618 posts)
26. Please make a will
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:32 AM
Mar 2020

If not your estate will end up in probate for a year. Name an executor, they will have access to all your financial info to close the accounts ASAP.

trust me those credit card companies will try to come after what is left, even if there is nothing. One thing I plan on doing when I start Social Security, is opening a separate account for the check to go in. They notified the bank when she died and her account got frozen.

Lucky Luciano

(11,287 posts)
34. Agreed with mercury blues above. There is a lot of administrative stuff for your kids.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:10 AM
Mar 2020

It is all very unpleasant- I had to deal with it for my parents even if there isn’t much there.

3Hotdogs

(12,697 posts)
57. Again. there is no estate. No real property. No car. No cash. No savings account.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:52 AM
Mar 2020

Nuthin' 'cept debt.

In my state, survivor sends copy of death cert. to credit company and they bug off.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
55. In some (many? most?) states holographic (self-written) wills are not recognized
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:43 AM
Mar 2020

I know that in NY to be admitted to probate a will must be executed in the presence of two witnesses and certain formalities must be observed. You can’t just write your own will in NY. Well, I did. But I executed it at my attorney’s office in the presence of two witnesses and the witnesses executed the will and certain affidavits. If you want to be sure your will is honored, consult an attorney in your state. At the very least, google the requirements in your state. Then consult an attorney if you’re uncertain about the requirements for the proper execution of a will in your state.

madaboutharry

(40,285 posts)
2. I am not as fearful for myself as I am for some people I love.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:42 AM
Mar 2020

I don't have any underlying health conditions that would compromise my ability to fight the disease. So, I think I might be strong enough to survive. Of course, one never really knows.

But there are some people who are very dear to me and who I love so much that I can't bear to think of the world without them in it. That would be especially true if this is what takes them away.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. What Sherman said
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:44 AM
Mar 2020

👆

I agree, though, we can keep our immune systems strong & stay isolated. Not fun, but it sure bears the alternative!

catsudon

(859 posts)
4. im not afraid
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:44 AM
Mar 2020

i had a good life, and it was even extended because someone else gave me a liver and i lived


bu of course i'm doing my due diligence to stay at home.

redwitch

(14,971 posts)
10. I feel bad about that.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:06 AM
Mar 2020

I would be happy to donate blood, try to do it at least a couple of times a year. It just doesn’t feel safe now. I also wonder how they know your blood is safe to use if you haven’t been tested for coronavirus.

maptap22

(85 posts)
6. Yes I had pneumonia some years back and almost died...
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:47 AM
Mar 2020

Plus I have MS. I did stop taking my immune suppressing drugs a few months back (thankfully) so I hope I will be ok.

But honestly, I am more afraid of losing someone I love. I lost my husband last year and my sister in law and Mom the year before. I can't take another loss.

justhanginon

(3,295 posts)
8. I am probably in this category. I just had pneumonia
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:51 AM
Mar 2020

and spent two weeks in the hospital and am still recovering. I have asthma and COPD and am in my 80's so .................
As far as surviving, I live in a small village and am totally isolating. My kids are bringing my groceries which they have cleaned each piece individually and I am going absolutely nowhere other than the mailbbox and I alcohol rub my mail and then wash my hands
My plan is to live long enough to p*ss on trump's grave if the line is not too long.

Edit to add.
My kids are also isolating and told me that they will put the groceries on the front porch and we will wave through the window. till they leave. Of course I worry about them but we are all taking this very seriously and hoping to make it through this disaster.

snowybirdie

(5,308 posts)
9. Not fearful for myself
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:55 AM
Mar 2020

But we have family members who are very vulnerable. I worry about them very much. They are young, with a whole lot of life to live. We have hunkered down and follow guidelines and hope for the best!

samnsara

(17,746 posts)
11. hubbys been going thru immunotherapy to try to shrink a small tumor..
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:09 AM
Mar 2020

..which instead grew slightly so hes the ONLY one scheduled for surgery April 8 At University of Washington. We have to drive into Seattle.. I have to stay at a hotel...cuz NO visitors..I will be using Uber IF i can visit. So Im exposing my self to so many viral opportunities. Im not even letting the maid in to clean my room. Hubby actually gets tested before he goes in. Hes in a pretty clean environment but then HE has to drive back the 2 hours to our house ( I have no idea how to drive in Seattle!)..get gas..etc. Once we get back home we are NOT leaving until I have to forage for tp...or wine.

so YES im very concerned one of us will be effected..just at the height of the projected impact..

stay safe everyone.

mchill

(1,029 posts)
60. Here are my thoughts
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:01 AM
Mar 2020

My friend in Seattle says there is very little traffic now in Seattle!

I also doubt they will let you into the hospital. Another friend had emergency surgery last Monday in CA and no friends/family allowed for the protection of all. He was met at hospital door by a hospital employee.

If it were me I would stay out of an Uber!!!!!

If I were staying at a hotel I would bring throw away towels and never touch the carpet. I would spray everything with a disinfectant, including the air. And I’m sure your policy is already instituted about no maid visits. Wipe every surface as you go.

But of all the places, I think UW and UCSF, on the West Coast are on top of this virus. Maybe their hospital social worker can help guide you in being safe while visiting Seattle.

barbtries

(28,882 posts)
13. I am and not giving up,
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:14 AM
Mar 2020

trying to be realistic. I am taking all precautions that I can. I am hoping that when/if I get the virus it will be a mild case. I have best case and worst case scenarios playing through my mind.

I am also making my wishes known to my children.

My son works in a grocery. We both are pretty fatalistic about this. There is every reason to expect that we will get it.

Jane Austin

(9,199 posts)
14. I am.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:20 AM
Mar 2020

I'm 75, overweight despite a lifetime of exercise and a damned good diet.

But My breathing is awful. If I don't take my diuretics right on time, fluid will collect in my chest.

Fortunately I have a very strong heart and arteries that didn't have a spec of plaque when I had an angiogram.

Hoping for the best.

Gotta say it galls me no end that my ability to live a few more weeks is tied very closely to the whims of this ignorant lumbering fool.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
15. I am in the group most at risk
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:20 AM
Mar 2020

Being older (68) overweight , have a rarer form of Muscular Dystrophy, recently DXed with Parkinson's , and a number of other issues, so I'll be in trouble possibly if i get it . I am in strict isolation hoping it holds off until the vaccine is ready, and they are in a better health care position everywhere. I am disgusted with how trump has done to hurt people by refusal to help some for political reasons. Anyone who uses a virus as a weapon during a national health crisis for political or personal gain has no place in our government. Anyone lying to us now in our government has no place in our government. This I think this will last much longer , and be more financially destructive to our economy because their help to the people has been woefully inadequate, and too late. Stay safe everyone , and stay isolated.

Freddie

(9,333 posts)
16. I'm ok for myself
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:22 AM
Mar 2020

Healthy at 63 with a strong immune system and rarely get sick. But my husband has asthma and my brother is a cancer survivor. We are incredibly fortunate to have the privilege of being able to stay home. Trying not to think about losing either of them.

Nikki28

(558 posts)
17. I am
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:25 AM
Mar 2020

I got tested yesterday and feel so numb and fearful waiting on the results. I have to be isolated for 14 days and my two kids who lives with me also has to be isolated. We can't find mask or gloves so we use the same two par we have. My older son is not taking it serious. It is hard to have anyone bring you food because they are fearful you already have it.It is a sad state to be in. Even more sad is this did not even have to get here is we had real leadership who would have the best people around them and wanted to learn.I just do not have time to focus on this. i just pray I am negative because that would be a miracle. On the other hand, when my immune system as weak as it is, I am just taking it as it comes.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. Don't see it as a death sentence, but understand those that do. Too many older people are surviving,
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:55 AM
Mar 2020

even after being admitted to a hospital. And a big chunk are still having relatively minor symptoms.

Walleye

(31,621 posts)
21. Yes. I am in a vulnerable situation.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:07 AM
Mar 2020

Went through surgery and chemo for breast cancer. Cat scan showed enlarged lymph nodes. Had thoracic surgery 3 weeks ago, just before all the shit hit the fan. Got a thingy removed from my lung. Benign. Grateful they found no more cancer. Now in some pain while recovering. Follow-up treatment and radiation is delayed. Now scared of going to the cancer center. (Deep breath) could be a lot worse. Living alone at age 71. Always valued my independence. Now thinking of John Prine and the line of a song. “Old people just grow lonely.” But it’s spring, I’m a boomer, so I still believe I can get through anything. Take care all of you good people here on DU. Hold on. We’ll make it!

Mossfern

(2,656 posts)
29. That's my belief too
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:37 AM
Mar 2020

I've been close to death a couple of times and came back.
Don't know why. I just believe that I have something left to do to sustain the pattern of the organizing force of the universe.
Nothing great, it could be some some insignificant (to me) act - but apparently I haven't done it yet.

71 years old 10-15% loss of heart muscle due to a major heart attack 25 years ago and still have the coronary aneurysm that caused it.
Ground glass opacities in my lungs due to pneumonia 30 years ago. Until recently still trained at the gym and kicked ass.

It's a crap shoot for me.

alterfurz

(2,483 posts)
24. The Gods have become diseases. -- Carl Jung
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:23 AM
Mar 2020

Dead Man Walking:
1. male
2. 72
3. arrhythmic
4. high b.p.
5. on meds that synergize with corona
6. chronic bronchitis, mild emphysema

The best way to have a long life is to get a chronic disease, then take care of it. -- Dr. George Sheehan




MuseRider

(34,218 posts)
27. 66 with bad lungs.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:32 AM
Mar 2020

I am short of breath a little, I really have only a small effect of having pneumonia 4 times in my adult life. I have auto immune disease as well but even that has not stopped me from doing what I want, being a working woodwind player and working on my 52 acre farm.

Still, my lungs are precarious at best and I am still just barely over a bad case of pleurisy I got in December.

My husband is sure he has it about every 30 minutes or so so my time is being spent outdoors working mostly.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
28. I'm 74 & in fair to middling health, just old.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:36 AM
Mar 2020

This virus would finish me, I assume, so I want to get my affairs in order. But inertia prevents me from starting. A will should come first, I guess.

JenniferJuniper

(4,518 posts)
33. None of us are going anywhere,
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:52 AM
Mar 2020

We're going to stay home, stay save, and vote that vile piece of shit out of office come November.

Botany

(70,939 posts)
36. me
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:15 AM
Mar 2020

I try to stay in shape but if I get C-19 I am toast. I have had pneumonia 3 or 4 times. Asthma too.

bucolic_frolic

(44,125 posts)
37. Yes, definitely relate to that thought, and the immune idea
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:18 AM
Mar 2020

Also like to reduce inflammation to allow immunity to potentiate by reducing foods that promote inflammation such as sugars, most dairy fat, yeast based foods, fried foods, junk foods. If I had to prepare for a flu, and I know this isn't one, I'd prep with a diet of veggies, brown rice, tomato soup, and all the greens I could throw at it. In just 3 days my inflammation would be reduced as evidenced by clearer sinuses, more energy. I would also moderately exercise, even just stretching, to promote circulation. Casual walks even around the house, are great.

MaryMagdaline

(6,872 posts)
38. I think I would survive with permanent lung damage
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:19 AM
Mar 2020

My mother and husband both had lung disease. It’s not pretty when you can’t breath. The shock is you don’t die right away ... you’re tortured with feelings of drowning. So, I fear the virus as a disease like TB.

SWBTATTReg

(22,582 posts)
40. I have, according to my other half, have died 3 times and come back every time. Of course this ...
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:19 AM
Mar 2020

scared my other half tremendously but I have come back every time. We have an appreciation of life perhaps more than others, and a creed that when its time to go, you'll go, when the Man upstairs calls your name (at least I do).

Until then, not any earlier! Live life to the fullest (don't be an idiot though), and do enjoy the small things in life that you can.

In all of the times I have died, I never even knew that anything had happened. It just happened BAM, and then later I woke up later, and wondered why/where/what was I doing on the floor, etc. Of course both of us were 'used to it' but everyone else around us were kind of freaking out. We're to the point that we stay calm, we're in control. Call 911. That's the automatic thing we do calmly for panic doesn't help.

Be safe.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
43. I've been on anti-rejection drugs for 6 months now.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:24 AM
Mar 2020

Had kidney/pancreas transplant in Sept. 2019.

Only leave my house for weekly blood test and wear a mask and one rubber glove for the elevator buttons.

Haven't picked up any magazines there since my 2015 bout w/pneumonia that I could only have caught at the clinic.

I can honestly say that doctors make me sick.

DFW

(54,935 posts)
44. With me, might be fatal, might be nothing.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:27 AM
Mar 2020

I have had double pneumonia before, and serious heart issues.

On the other hand, I was just down in Spain 2 weeks ago, have stayed home since, and have had no symptoms at all. So, either I have it and am immune to symptoms, or I don't have it at all. Since they won't test you (my name is not Merkel), I have no way of knowing.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
46. I worry, but not fearful.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:34 AM
Mar 2020

I’m a hope for the best, prepare for the worst type. I do all I can, and beyond that, I let it go.

That attitude kept me strong through H1N1, Graves’ disease, a thyroidectomy to fix that—only to learn a month later that I had cancer. Stage I, thank goodness. I cried about five seconds in self-pity, and then I got, well, severely pissed off, not at myself, at this monster that had attacked me. And my attitude then became, “Fuck YOU, cancer, I’m kicking your ass.”

I was the one who calmed down my mother when I broke the news to her. RN that she was, she was already going off on crazy things like “if you need chemo, do you want to come up here for it so I can take care of you?” I told her, hey—I’m only stage I, let’s cross that bridge if I come to it and not worry about that until then. And so didn’t need it, thank goodness. All I could do was listen to the pros handling my care, and take it one day at a time.

So I did all my doctor wanted, and came out the other end fine. My mother swears that my positive—but realistic—attitude did as much to save my life as the oncology. I wouldn’t go that far, but I do think it kept me sane and grounded through it all.

Anyway, after all that, now I have diabetes. And I’m late 50s, with hypertension.

So I’m very much in the high risk group, but again, my attitude is, prepare as best I can, follow what doctors say to do, and cross bridges only if I have to, because worrying about what ifs is asking to go crazy.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
47. I'm almost 65, high blood pressure and diabetic but I'm not worrying.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:50 AM
Mar 2020

98% of the time I'm keeping my ass inside (and I have a BIG ass).

As always, Donald Trump is an idiot and an ass hat.

#notmypresident

RESIST

Turin_C3PO

(14,330 posts)
48. I'm fairly certain it would be for me.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:52 AM
Mar 2020

My lung function is only 50% due to cystic fibrosis. So I would get a severe version of the virus. And if it came down to a ventilator, I might not get one due to it being a pre-existing condition.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
49. Not me, but my relatives living with me.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:56 AM
Mar 2020

They're both pushing 80, one has COPD. I'm relatively healthy, but I don't want to be the one to give it to them.

DUgosh

(3,068 posts)
52. My hubs
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:22 AM
Mar 2020

Turned 75 today has asbestosis - I’m mid sixties with Lupus/Fibromyalgia combo and a long history of pneumonia’s. We want to see our grandkids again in person!

in2herbs

(2,950 posts)
53. At the doses recommended on Vit. C bottles, I agree that Vit. C won't be effective. However,
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:32 AM
Mar 2020

at least one US doctor is treating COVID-19 with intravenous mega doses of Vit C and claiming good responses. It would be impossible to get the mega dose needed in pills. However, there are other immune boosters that contain high doses of Vit. C, liquid maritime pine bark, for one example.

To your list kentuck I would include lysine but again, if you have the virus it must be in large doses to be curative and lysine is one of the best herbal anti-viral fighters available. Large doses, short term, (couple of weeks) will not kill you. It might save you, in fact.

As for me, my herbal prevention is lysine and maritime pine bark. Should I get the virus I will add colloidal silver as well. CS is not just an antibiotic, it is also anti-viral -- and VERY effective against all strains of virus.

I don't get the pessimists on this site. Faced with dying or trying an herbal alternative it appears that they would choose to die rather than attempt something that might save their life. It's their choice.

I have anxiety over getting the virus but that anxiety is less than others because instead of feeling hopeless I will help myself to hela myself.

appalachiablue

(41,487 posts)
65. Can you suggest any decent brands for Vit. C and Lysine
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 12:27 PM
Mar 2020

that are sold at regular drug stores and food stores? No health foods places in my immediate area. Thanks.

in2herbs

(2,950 posts)
66. I take 20 drops of liquid maritime pine bark daily for maintenance. You can take it straight but I
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:29 PM
Mar 2020

prefer to add the drops to a tablespoon or so of juice and chug it cuz it tasted like tree bark - which it is! The standardized form of liquid maritime pine bark is called pycnogenol. Health food stores carry this standardized form or you can order on-line. The only place in the world where I have found liquid maritime pine bark is in Australia. Here is the link https://www.mcdowellsherbal.com/

The fatal part of the virus appears to be its effect on the respiratory system and they have a concoction that will support the respiratory system. If you go to the site (above listed) check out this remedy. I have been getting herbal guidance and product support from them for almost 2 decades and have NEVER been mistreated or misled. Their consultation/advice is free.

They have a variety of sizes but I just received another 500 ml bottle (I order one about every 3 months) from them and it cost me $321.50 plus a $6 foreign transaction fee. It may seem pricey but my horses and I are on it and remember you only take a few drops daily. Clinical testing has proven that it is 25x stronger then Vit C. I can honestly attest to its effectiveness as a liver support, immune support and cancer fighter. I will always take it, and increase the dose if I get the virus.

As for lysine, there is a product for humans and animals called Equinety that contains 1250 mg of lysine in each 5.2 g scoop -- that's a small scoop. It costs $99 for a 1.3 lb. container, or 90-day supply. My horses and I take this product everyday as well. I add the scoop of product to about 1 oz of juice (Hawaiian Punch) and let it dissolve for a while and then stir before taking. It doesn't dissolve well, there are white clumps of it still in the glass so I just add some more juice, stir and chug. Should I get the virus I will increase my daily dose of this, as well.

Several years ago EHV-1 was affecting many of the horses in the area and the vets were recommending lysine to fight the EHV-1 virus. I was amazed because it's "alternative". However the dose the vets were recommending was not sufficient to fight the virus, only for maintenance. I increased the dose for my horses and only 2 got mild cases.

I don't like to take pills so I try to stick to natural or liquid whenever I can. Besides it's better absorbed in the body.

Alternative medicine is proactive medicine, not reactive medicine.

Hope this helps. If not you can DM me.

Namaste


tazkcmo

(7,323 posts)
54. Me.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:39 AM
Mar 2020

But not obsessed. The possibility of dying from the virus, the chance of giving it to someone else and inadequate containment measures, lack of testing and over all failure to take the outbreak seriously by both government and citizenry are all factors in making the decision to voluntarily self quarantine.

I'm still making plans for the future while taking sensible measures to improve my chances of seeing said future.

mchill

(1,029 posts)
56. I was fearful enough
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:50 AM
Mar 2020

To write a holographic will (honored in California). I have 4 risk factors, including age.

I have the luxury of being retired and living alone. Our local small grocer is delivering food as requested. Just waiting out an “emergency” dental procedure by a dentist that I immediately understood, when meeting, watches too much Fox News. He has not shut down and from my observations is not following the CDA or Shelter-in-Place guidelines. On day 12. Feeling optimistic.

procon

(15,805 posts)
58. I'm in that high risk group.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:57 AM
Mar 2020

If there's a list that makes some people more vulnerable, I probably have everything checked and underlined. I feel expendable because if I got this virus there's not much hope I'll survive.

I think I'm maybe OK with that, or I'm trying to get to that state of mind because that sorta matches my end of life choices. I've always been very independent and self reliant, so the last thing I want to be is a burden.

The one thing that makes me anxious is dying alone. I would miss seeing my family, there's so few of us left. Wondering if I should say some preemptive goodbye to my brother at least, or would that create another problem. I'm dithering.

I'm OK at home for now. No outside contact since March 7 so I feel relatively safe. Gonna need groceries soon and I rely on family to pick up my order. It will feel weird keeping 6 foot away from them.

Brainfodder

(6,426 posts)
59. Part of me is thinking dying aint that bad right now, Earth is a pathetic place it turns out.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 10:59 AM
Mar 2020

Too many ignorant citizens, and too vile a group of people taking full advantage.

Doesn't even matter what country, it's universal.

Human beings are awful creatures.

Fun parts are connected to and right next to another waste disposal system, WTF!



Don't even get started on religion and other cults, and people being stupid as hell on a wide swath of things.
This is unchanged, people have been stupid since they began, we are flawed creatures, clearly!
You have a Earth-wide group of assholes that still traffic in hard drugs and other humans in 2020!
...the list of ridiculous goes on and on and on....

If this were a ride, I'd be screaming to get off?

Good Luck!





lark

(23,381 posts)
61. I am not worried about myself, but this would kill my sister I'm pretty sure.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020

Her lungs were scarred from an extreme sickness in her teens, and then she smoked 3 packs of cigarettes from the age of 16 - 42. if she gets this she may not survive and she lives alone. She's 66 so that's another risk factor. I'm older than her and like everyone in our family prone to respiratory illnesses but my lungs aren't scarred so my risk is way less.

Lung scarring killed our mother, it is the most horrible thing to have to decide to remove the vent and I never ever want to have to make that decision again. I had forgotten about Brenda's lungs and was stunned when she told me last night. Now that I have had time to process this, I realize I need to have a serious talk with her about life and death decisions. I refuse to be caught by surprise as we were with mom and had to make a decision not knowing what she truly wanted.

Bayard

(22,618 posts)
63. I'm a goner
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:50 AM
Mar 2020

Asthma, chronic bronchitis, frequent respiratory infections, and occasional pneumonia. Over 60. Almost constant sore throat the past couple months, and regular coughing fits that would probably get me thrown out of any store.

Ironic that I died once before because I wanted to,(long story), so life seems more precious now. I'm more worried about what would happen to my farm and animals. Mr. Bayard is not in great shape either, and getting ready to head back to work next week, after being off for 6 wks.

I am officially hunkered down, at least more than usual. Starting to look up info on wills and life insurance.

nevergiveup

(4,800 posts)
64. If I get this I am done for.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

High blood pressure and not the best lungs. I am 76. I have gone underground. At this point my one goal in life is to live long enough to vote this fall.

LizBeth

(9,966 posts)
67. My son has convinced me, though I would be one to figure I have it on the odds.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:31 PM
Mar 2020

Vit C is a good suggestion hearing from other countries doctors giving the patient strong dosage of Vit C when they come into hospital and seeing good results.

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