No Lockdown Sweden Update, US population equivalent of almost 2000 deaths in the last 15 hours

[Celerity]

6 days ago we had the US equivalent of 2500 deaths, now we have 8500

IF we get to a death rate of 100 per day (at this rate of increase we will be there in a couple days), that works out to 100,000 US deaths per month, 1.2 million per annum


https://c19.se/





for the last update (and a lot of background from my replies) see here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213208883

[madaboutharry]

1. This is very surprising.

The Swedes invented the Three Point Seat Belt, one would think they would know better.

[Celerity]

4. Right across the street from our flat there is a resto with 30 people sitting outside all clustered

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together fairly closely. Multiple that by 1000, just for here in Stockholm. The restos and bars are still open, even if in some you can only get table service (obviously you can get take-away as well.)

[WhiteTara]

9. Stay safe! Do restaurants deliver?

I'd definitely hibernate for the next year!

[Celerity]

11. Yes, we have almost all delivered, groceries, resto, etc etc

Online delivery was already huge for years here.

[bronxiteforever]

2. Kick and recommend.

[janterry]

3. I've been following the course of Sweden and it's alarming

I can't imagine that they don't change course soon.

As a retrospective case study, it will be interesting (if they keep this up).

But the toll - and suffering - it's horrible. I've seen recently that some professionals have signed a petition - I would think that citizens will become alarmed soon (if not already). I don't see how they can continue this way - I expect (hope!) that the gov't will order mitigation strategies soon. It's the only way.

[FM123]

5. Oh no, this is alarming news!

Please keep healthy and stay safe, Celerity!
And keep us updated on how you are doing there in Sweden.

[Celerity]

6. so far we are fine, we go running super early in the morning in the giant park near our home

and have most all things delivered so we do not have to go out shopping. We also have one of our spare rooms set up as a home gym. We both work from home now, so that is no issue.

There really is not that more we can do for ourselves TBH. It is a huge chunk of the rest of the country that is the problem, starting at the top, with the government.

[madaboutharry]

7. What messaging is coming from the government?

What is their rational for not taking decisive action?

[Celerity]

12. These should help explain (my replies in thw threads as well)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213185779#post8 <<<< two OP links

And

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213205442

[denem]

8. 'They are leading us to catastrophe'

The prime minister, Stefan Löfven, has urged Swedes to behave “as adults” and not to spread “panic or rumours”.

... “We’re not testing enough, we’re not tracking, we’re not isolating enough – we have let the virus loose,” said Prof Cecilia Söderberg-Nauclér, a virus immunology researcher at the Karolinska Institute. “They are leading us to catastrophe.”

... “The government thinks they can’t stop it, so they’ve decided to let people die,” Söderberg-Nauclér said. “They don’t want to listen to the scientific data that’s presented to them.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/catastrophe-sweden-coronavirus-stoicism-lockdown-europe

[Celerity]

10. Yes, I posted that as an OP on Monday.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213205442

[denem]

13. Sorry

:red face:

[Celerity]

15. zero reason to be sorry at all

[denem]

17. Lofven's stategy looks a lot like herd culling,

cough, I mean herd immunity, ala Boris Mk 1.

[Celerity]

18. the UK's death rate is increasing even faster than Sweden's atm, although the pandemic took longer

to get up and firing on all cylinders here (and it is nowhere near the peak at all here or the UK or the US.)

My 3 nations are fucked atm.

[denem]

19. :(

:hugs:

[DenverJared]

14. Why no lockdown?

Lock downs are a true and tested method to control epidemics for over 200 years.

[Celerity]

16. see the links at posts 10 and 12 , and also my replies in those OP's