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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 09:58 AM Apr 2020

The Longer Trump Talks in His Daily Pressers, the More Voters He Loses.

Trump's afternoon COVID-19 press events are becoming more and more tiresome, as he repeats the same nonsense he's been saying for days on end. In Trump's case, familiarity definitely breeds contempt.

He went on for almost two hours, yesterday, droning on and on, stupidly and with his usual inarticulate word salad style.

He thinks, apparently, that these events are campaign rallies. He insults media people, contradicts what his experts say, and generally comports himself poorly throughout.

He is losing supporters the longer he rails on about "blocking the Chinese at the border, and then Europe, and even England and the UK." It wasn't that long ago, and we remember all that, Donwald. It didn't work, now, did it?

So, do go on please. I've tuned away already. Please proceed...

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The Longer Trump Talks in His Daily Pressers, the More Voters He Loses. (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2020 OP
I Agree, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #1
Protracted repetitive raving is a vice of demagogues. denem Apr 2020 #12
Yesterday I was yelling at my tv like a banshee! Solomon Apr 2020 #33
Hah! Take a number! calimary Apr 2020 #35
It was only a clip embedded in something else and I found myself yelling... Hekate Apr 2020 #36
logically speaking yes jcgoldie Apr 2020 #2
this tman Apr 2020 #18
++++ Ohiogal Apr 2020 #27
Every tRumper I know OriginalGeek Apr 2020 #32
I haven't watched 2 minutes total of all his daily campaign ads. doc03 Apr 2020 #3
Normally, we have MSNBC on between 3 and 5 PM CDT. MineralMan Apr 2020 #5
Very well said la-trucker Apr 2020 #4
A very poor imitation, indeed. MineralMan Apr 2020 #6
He's only doing this to gaslight the local and national network news each night NightWatcher Apr 2020 #7
Let us all CHANGE the channel..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2020 #8
if you could bottle onethatcares Apr 2020 #9
I haven't watched at all. He frightens and enrages me. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #10
Yes. The day's information can be told briefly and informatively. MineralMan Apr 2020 #11
Trump's not irrelevant; he's the cause of 99% of the deaths. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #14
His inaction and lack of leadership certainly made it worse. MineralMan Apr 2020 #17
I wish I could believe that. However, it has been explained to him daily. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #20
Every time he comes on we switch to TCM Green Line Apr 2020 #13
I've seen a couple of great movies there during Turd's briefings. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #15
Narcissistic personality disorder, compounded by drug abuse and general paresis, maybe? struggle4progress Apr 2020 #16
Or, perhaps, he is just a stupid bully, and has been all his life. MineralMan Apr 2020 #19
When the crisis lessens, we should argue loudly about this in some grocery store check-out line! struggle4progress Apr 2020 #29
That's why I want to see him on every TV channel. It's obvious to almost anyone he's a loser. Hoyt Apr 2020 #21
are you sure? barbtries Apr 2020 #22
He had a small bump in those ratings, but it has gone back down. MineralMan Apr 2020 #24
good. barbtries Apr 2020 #31
What really galls me is when that fool in the red tie tries to answer questions of a Grammy23 Apr 2020 #23
His doltishness is on full display whenever he opens his mouth. MineralMan Apr 2020 #25
Please proceed shithound malaise Apr 2020 #26
I made it part way through one. bluedye33139 Apr 2020 #28
The Little Boy Who Cried "HEALTH!" no_hypocrisy Apr 2020 #30
You guys all have stronger stomachs than I do. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #34
They probably hate it when we speak this truth, but the majority of his supporters are as dumb... NNadir Apr 2020 #37
That sounds logical, but NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #38
One can only hope. Those who once deeply believed suffer from sunk cost fallacy. ancianita Apr 2020 #39
You rely on a romantic, or even a epistemological view of human cognition and behavior. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2020 #40
The best reason to say no to Maddow's suggestion that networks stop carrying them. nt thesquanderer Apr 2020 #41
I kinda figure as long as he's blathering at a podium, the less he can screw up elsewhere... Starfury Apr 2020 #42
CBS plays very little of his events now wryter2000 Apr 2020 #43
I'd like to believe this but where is the verifiable information? mahannah Apr 2020 #44
Keep yakking, Nectarine Nero meow2u3 Apr 2020 #45
I agree very strongly bubbazero Apr 2020 #46

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
33. Yesterday I was yelling at my tv like a banshee!
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:59 AM
Apr 2020

I was filled with rage! He makes me ashamed at my feelings. Didn't believe I could ever hate. It's embarrassing!!

Hekate

(90,641 posts)
36. It was only a clip embedded in something else and I found myself yelling...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:39 AM
Apr 2020

"Die! Just die, damn you!" repeatedly. My husband has stopped telling me this is bad karma for me.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
2. logically speaking yes
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:02 AM
Apr 2020

But I've been working under the "let the fool speak and show what he is" theory for 3 years. Surely the more people hear this loathsome ignorant buffoon his numbers will decline. They haven't. You can fool some of the people ALL the time. Unfortunately it appears some is around 42%.

tman

(983 posts)
18. this
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:27 AM
Apr 2020

We need to counter his BS constantly. Sitting back and waiting for self-destruction won't work.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
32. Every tRumper I know
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:55 AM
Apr 2020

is crowing about the great job he's doing. How he is saving lives. What a disaster this all would have been had Hillary been president.

Even people I know to be otherwise smart.

I hope they all go to church.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
3. I haven't watched 2 minutes total of all his daily campaign ads.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:04 AM
Apr 2020

I suppose I may be missing some important information from the others but I will
have to rely on the reporting later, I can't stomach watching that lying SOB.


MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
5. Normally, we have MSNBC on between 3 and 5 PM CDT.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:11 AM
Apr 2020

It's a time of day for us to begin winding down and relaxing. My wife can't stop yelling at Trump on the TV. So, yesterday, I suggested switching channels, and we did. Much better.

Trump is simply intolerable. Even his supporters can only take so much of the stupid man's prattle.

 

la-trucker

(283 posts)
4. Very well said
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:07 AM
Apr 2020

He is a poor imitation of Hitler. He may have the cruelty and bigoted thinking of Hitler but not his intellect or oratory.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
7. He's only doing this to gaslight the local and national network news each night
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:14 AM
Apr 2020

He doesn't want people who only watch the news in the evening to see what's really happening. He wants people to see him and either believe him or turn it off. He doesn't want people to see local stories followed by a half hour of national bad news for him.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
8. Let us all CHANGE the channel.....
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:16 AM
Apr 2020

When the presser is set to start, change the channel. Watch the LOW-LITES on the shows.

Like with the Stock Market, let his ratings drop lk,e a ton of rocks. I switched to the History Channel yesterday.

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
9. if you could bottle
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:17 AM
Apr 2020

his worn out drone reading you'd put every sleeping pill maker out of business.

Sad B side though

you'd depress an entire continent in no time.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. I haven't watched at all. He frightens and enrages me.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:18 AM
Apr 2020

I can wait for the summaries, which pretty much consist of "What a dangerous idiot."

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
11. Yes. The day's information can be told briefly and informatively.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:21 AM
Apr 2020

Then, things can move on to practical advice on how to handle the current situation, along with local information that is potentially of use to viewers.

Trump is entirely irrelevant to this pandemic.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Trump's not irrelevant; he's the cause of 99% of the deaths.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:22 AM
Apr 2020

But yes, listening to him will, at best, add nothing useful to solving Trump's Pandemic.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
17. His inaction and lack of leadership certainly made it worse.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:27 AM
Apr 2020

However, the virus is the cause. Trump is so stupid that he can't recognize factual information when he hears it. He prefers his own ignorant fantasies.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. I wish I could believe that. However, it has been explained to him daily.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:29 AM
Apr 2020

His behavior is deliberate and calculated. He is trying to:
(1) Help his boss Putin harm America.
(2) Help his cronies profiteer off a bidding war for lifesaving supplies.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. I've seen a couple of great movies there during Turd's briefings.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:23 AM
Apr 2020

"Million Dollar Legs" really showed me what a comic genius WC Fields was.

struggle4progress

(118,274 posts)
29. When the crisis lessens, we should argue loudly about this in some grocery store check-out line!
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:47 AM
Apr 2020
Me: I wonder if the poor fellow has had a stroke
You: No, he's just stupid
Me: Stupid people can have strokes, too

Me: I've been thinking maybe years of snorting coke damaged his self-control
You: No, he's just a bully
Me: Well, y'know, bullies get brain damage from snorting coke, just like other people

Me: I wonder if he has terminal untreated syphilis
You: No, he's just a stupid bully
Me: Yeah, well, stupid bullies can suffer from untreated syphilis. It's too bad we don't have better medical insurance in the country

Me: I still wonder if a stroke and untreated syphilis have aggravated brain damage caused by drug abuse
You: I still think he's just a stupid bully
Me: Y'know, he could be a stupid bully who damaged his brain through drug abuse, failed to get his syphilis treated, and then had a stroke. There's something wrong with him, anyway. Normal people don't act like that. I sure hope he can get the help he needs.

Me: Maybe a little vacation would do him good. Do you think her could hunting with Cheney?
You: I still he would still be a stupid bully
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. That's why I want to see him on every TV channel. It's obvious to almost anyone he's a loser.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:30 AM
Apr 2020

Obviously, many don't care as long as he promotes white wing ideology. But if only 5% of his former supporters turn on him, that's enough for a landslide GOPer loss in November.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
22. are you sure?
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:39 AM
Apr 2020

i've heard he had a higher approval rating.

i've never watched one of his WH rallies. i see clips and generally he's congratulating himself.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
31. good.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:51 AM
Apr 2020

I as a general rule think there's no way he can win in november. but I don't want to be blindsided again. I've been distraught for all this time. sometimes I still think how Hillary is supposed to be president.

best to not go down that road. she's not and that's that.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
23. What really galls me is when that fool in the red tie tries to answer questions of a
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:40 AM
Apr 2020

Medical or technical nature. As if he really knows and understands the first thing about either subject. And when he lets a real expert (Dr. Fauci) come to the podium, he stands there nodding like he understands everything Fauci is saying. Bull pucky. (Than you Rachel M.). He cannot tolerate anyone else getting attention longer than him, so he has to interject himself or his opinion into everything.

Of late, I find myself looking at Food Network, QVC, TCM......anything besides his daily rallies/pep squad. I got so mad at Dr. Birx one day I screamed at her via the tv. I understand she has simply adopted the kiss the ring strategy to get him on their side. But damn, woman! Do you have to slather it on so thick??? It was just disgusting to hear her praising him as if he had the intellect and training of the experts on stage. He doesn’t have the sense god gave a goat but he acts like he is Einstein, daVinci, Newton, Salk and Hawking all rolled into one. So I watch Just enough of the briefing to get the gist of it and then go back to lighter fare. It is much better for my blood pressure and overall mental health.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
28. I made it part way through one.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:47 AM
Apr 2020

I can't imagine how terrifying and brain destroying it would be to watch a Trump campaign rally with medical workers.

He can barely read, he makes those weird gestures that I find sickening, and the whole thing was stupid.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
34. You guys all have stronger stomachs than I do.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:20 AM
Apr 2020

I can't watch him at all, ever. For starters it's not just that he's painful to look at because he's so butt-ugly - they say politics is show business for ugly people so ugly is nothing new - he's a special, abnormal sort of ugly because he intentionally does things to make himself even uglier while obviously thinking they make him look studly. And then there's his awful, awful voice. It's like a thousand fingernails on the world's largest blackboard. It's whiny and nasal and absurdly high-pitched for someone his size; he sounds like a peevish castrato. And that's even before we get to the content. He lies so often and so fluently that, although my personal spiritual beliefs do not include such possibilities, I nevertheless almost expect a bolt of lightning to streak down from the heavens and turn his fat ass into a big lump of overcooked bacon. To watch that sorry orange excuse for a human being defile the office of the presidency while people who should fucking know better stand behind him and bobble their heads, vacant-eyed and servile, is just unbearable.

Thanks for reporting back. I just can't do it.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
37. They probably hate it when we speak this truth, but the majority of his supporters are as dumb...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:45 AM
Apr 2020

...as stumps.

If they bought into his inarticulate bullshit before, there's no reason to assume that they will not continue to do so.

We don't need, however, a very large segment in swing states to defeat him. We only need a few. If only a small fraction of these racists change their mind about this stupid man, we're done with his criminal ass and it will fall to history to rip him up.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
38. That sounds logical, but
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:11 PM
Apr 2020

his polling numbers are at their highest numbers ever. 2 months ago, he was losing to Biden by 12 points, now it's down to 9 or 10.

ancianita

(36,019 posts)
39. One can only hope. Those who once deeply believed suffer from sunk cost fallacy.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:12 PM
Apr 2020

They'll take their cues from Macbeth Donnie, who probably thinks, at this point...

"... I am in blood
Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more,
Returning were as tedious as go o'er."



I want to believe you, but I'd rather be a wrong pessimist than a wrong optimist.

When we get too sure of ourselves, we send the message "we got this," and that's all it takes for people to stay home in November.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
40. You rely on a romantic, or even a epistemological view of human cognition and behavior.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:17 PM
Apr 2020

Trump's presidency is proof that people, MILLIONS of people do not care whether Trump is making sense, whether he's telling the truth, lying, or fantasizing. Whether he's boring, nonsensical, incoherent, vicious, narcissistic, or purely evil does not compel his followers to abandon him. The loosely described "law" of marketing in media do not apply to Trump. He will have his base, and he'll keep it.

I do get "romantic" myself, surmising on occasion that the American public has more common sense than to follow Trump down the road to ruin. But that perspective denies the reality of the Cult. Trump can stand before the nation buck naked and shit on stage, and his followers will come to believe that Trump is out-front with a new reality of human communications. So Trump can continue with his idiocy on a daily basis and NEVER suffer a drop of support from his cultists. If Trump were to drop dead with a fatal stroke or aneurysm, his cultist followers will elevate him to martyr/sainthood status, or even refuse to believe that he actually died. Conventional assumptions about human intelligence have to be abandoned in order to understand the scope of crazy that Trump engenders.

Starfury

(812 posts)
42. I kinda figure as long as he's blathering at a podium, the less he can screw up elsewhere...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:36 PM
Apr 2020

He got a brief bump in the polls as the nation instinctively wanted to rally in a time of crisis, but his toxic personality and utter incompetence will continue revolting people. He just can't help himself, it's who he is.

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
43. CBS plays very little of his events now
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

MSNBC lets it go on and on, so I switch to The People's Court. Much more enlightening.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
45. Keep yakking, Nectarine Nero
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:42 PM
Apr 2020

The more he talks, the better it is for us. He's ripped off the mask and showed himself as the murderous, cold-hearted, narcissistic monster he really is.

bubbazero

(296 posts)
46. I agree very strongly
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 12:11 AM
Apr 2020

see post https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213209287 ....but as is usually the case some do not---some of these quite strongly disagree---but that's wy I do enjoy DU

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