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Initial Jobless Claims: 6.648 million. (Original Post) mobeau69 Apr 2020 OP
Kick and recommend for visibility bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #1
Wow Gothmog Apr 2020 #2
Brutal. That's at the very top end of the worst case scenarios I've seen... SKKY Apr 2020 #3
Yep, the estimates were something like half that figure. nt mobeau69 Apr 2020 #7
And Mitch is telling Nancy not to expect the Senate to take up any more relief legislation. sop Apr 2020 #4
K & R! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #5
That's nearly 10% unemployment in 2 weeks ... uponit7771 Apr 2020 #6
Many Many people are saying it is 30 or even 40% That's what I'm hearing gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #8
I know two people who have filed. underpants Apr 2020 #9
I'm filing this afternoon. This is just the beginning. n/t femmedem Apr 2020 #10
These are shocking numbers Gothmog Apr 2020 #11
I suspect the reason is gig workers Turbineguy Apr 2020 #12
People need to brace for another huge number next week and after... Moostache Apr 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #26
Trump is going to force states to drop stay at home orders just watch nt maryellen99 Apr 2020 #14
That can't "save" the economy... Moostache Apr 2020 #15
If there is no further bailout of unemployed people then governors will have no choice. Ace Rothstein Apr 2020 #19
Yep if that's the case... a lot of people are going to die either way nt maryellen99 Apr 2020 #23
Trump is on his way to beat Obama on unemployment too doc03 Apr 2020 #16
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Apr 2020 #17
A lot of this will bounce back when businesses are reopened. roamer65 Apr 2020 #18
Businesses will not return to 100% of the sales they had before Corona Agschmid Apr 2020 #20
Very true. Once a vaccine is found and administered, the true recovery will begin. roamer65 Apr 2020 #22
Many small, independent businesses won't come back at all. sop Apr 2020 #25
wow ... this is going to be bad AmericanCanuck Apr 2020 #21
It is mercuryblues Apr 2020 #24
Here in Vegas, Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #27

SKKY

(11,803 posts)
3. Brutal. That's at the very top end of the worst case scenarios I've seen...
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 08:42 AM
Apr 2020

...we're going to be at 20% unemployment in July.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
13. People need to brace for another huge number next week and after...
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 09:01 AM
Apr 2020

We are heading to at least 40% unemployment in the next 3 months...if not worse, possibly MUCH worse.

This was a service economy and a consumer economy. Both are at full stop nearly everywhere. There is no choice - closed or open, businesses are not going to generate the revenue necessary to sustain the nearly full employment that was seen as such a sign of a booming economy - despite the fact that MILLIONS were already getting crushed in GOOD TIMES...

We are at the very start of the Next Depression and the longer that fact is denied, the deeper and longer it is going to be. This one is triggered by the SARS-CoV-2 virus and COVID-19 illness, but the house of cards it knocked over was not sturdy in the first place. A service and consumer economy is particularly vulnerable to what has happened, and it was NOT "something no one ever thought could happen".

Here is reality...just before this bombshell number dropped, McConnell was posturing with Pelosi and demanding that she "stand down" on additional relief packages and bills... Fuck you Turtle man...this is DEFCON-1 and if you do not immediately get to work on restructuring this economy in a New Deal style works project and plans, you are going to be held to account and history will record you alongside the Hoovers of the world.

We need a reckoning and unfortunately, it is not going to come as fast as it needs to, but the truth is this - our previous economy died last month, the corpse needs to be dragged out and burned or the remains will make the virus situation pale in comparison to the death, misery and violence that will erupt with a 100,000,000 plus unemployed, desperate and bankrupt people with nothing to eat, nowhere to go and nothing to lose...

WAKE UP CONGRESS - YOU HAVE TO RISE TO THIS MOMENT, ITS NOT OPTIONAL FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE NATION...

Response to Moostache (Reply #13)

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. That can't "save" the economy...
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 09:23 AM
Apr 2020

We are in the middle of a full-on panic. The health reasons alone are driving commerce to nearly stand still levels in retail and in services. Ordering people to go out is not going to work...it will get some stupid people sick and will make the virus threat worse and longer and cost lives, but it won't save the economy.

The FUCKING ECONOMY we had is DEAD. That kind of crowds milling around and coming into contact with each other is not going to restart until a vaccine or cure for this illness is discovered/developed/released. THAT could take YEARS.

The problem is not just a stop in economic activity, it is a knockout blow to consumer confidence...in 2 weeks, nearly 10 MILLION people have filed for unemployment and MILLIONS more will soon. This is a moment that DEMANDS leadership...bold thinking, forward thinking, thinking willing to piss off the rich and sacrifice the powerful to save the masses. This moment is beyond our current 'leaders' and beyond the ability of our current Congress to respond adequately. They are mired in thinking that will only prolong the suffering, deepen the misery and kill MILLIONS (not THOUSANDS) in the end.

People pining for a "return to normal" need to accept that there is no 'return' on the horizon...there is only a new reality that must first be conceived and then brought into existence painfully but purposefully or it will be years of chaos, violence and death everywhere.

Ace Rothstein

(3,160 posts)
19. If there is no further bailout of unemployed people then governors will have no choice.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 10:59 AM
Apr 2020

You can't have half the population with limited or no income, homelessness and starvation will become a major issue. At that point the cure becomes worse than the disease.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
18. A lot of this will bounce back when businesses are reopened.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 10:43 AM
Apr 2020

I think it will be a V shaped recovery. Very much like the Depression of 1920-1921.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
20. Businesses will not return to 100% of the sales they had before Corona
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 11:00 AM
Apr 2020

It’s going to take a long time and some business may never get back to 100% they just won’t need as much staff.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
22. Very true. Once a vaccine is found and administered, the true recovery will begin.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 11:19 AM
Apr 2020

I’d say it will take 3-4 years to recover economically.

Do not underestimate the power of ultra cheap money.

sop

(10,150 posts)
25. Many small, independent businesses won't come back at all.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 12:47 PM
Apr 2020

Big business will recover, though; they always have sufficient resources and government support to ride out the storm. In the aftermath small businesses will be replaced by corporate giants. Soon we'll all be working for Walmart and Amazon.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
27. Here in Vegas,
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 01:58 PM
Apr 2020

estimates range from 50-75% of family owned business's,restaurant, hair Salon's,Bars,Specialty Clothing Stores and Bling shops will be gone with in a couple months when there cash reserves run dry.

Going to be a ton of empty Strip Malls more so this time around than we had in 2010. Bankruptcy Lawyers will be the best job in the Valley within weeks.

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