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EarlG

(21,942 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 11:47 AM Apr 2020

Um, looks like someone just changed the text on the Strategic National Stockpile website

Was this change made today?

The website now says:

The Strategic National Stockpile's role is to supplement state and local supplies during public health emergencies. Many states have products stockpiled, as well. The supplies, medicines, and devices for life-saving care contained in the stockpile can be used as a short-term stopgap buffer when the immediate supply of adequate amounts of these materials may not be immediately available.


But previously -- looks like the cache has updated, but I managed to grab a screenshot just moments ago:



As you can see, the text used to say:

Strategic National Stockpile is the nation's largest supply of life-saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency severe enough to cause local supplies to run out.

When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency. Organized for scalable response to a variety of public health threats, this repository contains enough supplies to respond to multiple large-scale emergencies simultaneously.


Nice work, Jared.

Note: the SNS Wikipedia page still reflects the old language: "When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency. "
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Um, looks like someone just changed the text on the Strategic National Stockpile website (Original Post) EarlG Apr 2020 OP
Was it written in Sharpie? Walleye Apr 2020 #1
Beat me to it... Hugin Apr 2020 #4
Sorry, getting bored, but what is beyond outraged? Walleye Apr 2020 #13
Soviet-grade rewrite and airbrushing JHB Apr 2020 #2
I don't understand how taxpayer-funded respirators are sent to NYC to be auctioned by private firms. TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 #27
Jared told us how they view the situation... JHB Apr 2020 #30
I wonder if the original language was framed according to legislation eleny Apr 2020 #3
I bet it was taken directly from the charter establishing the stockpiles. Hugin Apr 2020 #5
I remember out state Human Svcs rules manuals being aligned with the Fed Register eleny Apr 2020 #9
of course it was, LakeVermilion Apr 2020 #7
So who would we write to in the House to make them aware of the change? eleny Apr 2020 #14
I would think it is the House Committee on Oversight and Reform bluescribbler Apr 2020 #50
I think this is the relevant controlling legislation. PaulRevere08 Apr 2020 #71
A kakistocracy full of criminals malaise Apr 2020 #6
The magic hand of unregulated free market economies of hyper capitalism at work. magicarpet Apr 2020 #67
Send them a bill. It's OURS, not theirs. Stealing, killing .lock them up. Gitmo would be good. Get notdarkyet Apr 2020 #88
As far as I know there's no record of this Lindsay Apr 2020 #8
The Internet has a memory assholes! NT Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #10
Shame on them. Ken and Barbie Grifter working only for Grifter-in-Chief & mi$c $pawn. n/t. n/t MFGsunny Apr 2020 #11
This needs to be investigated before ooky Apr 2020 #12
Why have a stockpile then? Tech Apr 2020 #15
Bingo. What do they plan to do with "their" stockpile? TryLogic Apr 2020 #31
Aggravating. So tired of all of them. Tech Apr 2020 #32
Revisionist history is being written by the minute Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #16
Good Catch, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #17
Just tested this myself musette_sf Apr 2020 #18
Oh my god. This monster is destroying us and seems to be sure he can get away with it librechik Apr 2020 #19
He can atreides1 Apr 2020 #21
Send this to Maddow...she'll run with this expose.. KewlKat Apr 2020 #20
The coverup gets them every time C_U_L8R Apr 2020 #22
Good catch, EarlG Mersky Apr 2020 #23
Comrade! Your eyes are revisionist hooligans! Report those backsliding lackeys for reeducation! mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #24
I'm a little rusty on my Zulo time Brother Buzz Apr 2020 #54
Cowards. GeorgeGist Apr 2020 #25
Washington Post reporting on same. Arkansas Granny Apr 2020 #26
Politco.com too,... magicarpet Apr 2020 #75
Here's the statute, 42 U.S. Code sec. 247d: The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #28
K & R Duppers Apr 2020 #29
Jared made some kind of comment about 'our' supplies and eqt. keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #33
The estate of George Orwell is going to sue this administration out of existence. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #34
Reminds me of an episode of M*A*S*H SnowCritter Apr 2020 #35
We cannot lose in November. Literally, our lives depend on it. William769 Apr 2020 #36
Those fuckers ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #37
jinx Kali Apr 2020 #40
Before Kushner took over: dalton99a Apr 2020 #38
these fuckers Kali Apr 2020 #39
Jared did a lot of research to make those website changes. coti Apr 2020 #41
Someone gave Kushner the keys and let him drive. woodsprite Apr 2020 #42
Just park Corgigal Apr 2020 #43
Thanks EarlG! Does anyone have the link about Jared actually SENDING... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2020 #44
These people are as sick and corrupt as they come. JDC Apr 2020 #45
Looks familiar don't it? 2naSalit Apr 2020 #46
And the self-owns just keep on coming... n/t TygrBright Apr 2020 #47
We are living in Animal Farm IronLionZion Apr 2020 #48
Kushner is selling the stuff to the highest bidder and no doubt with Trump's approval too. Botany Apr 2020 #49
I had tried to get to that page about an hour ago but it was reported as "Server Unavailable" erronis Apr 2020 #51
EarlG take a look at this William769 Apr 2020 #52
is ths moron even cabinet level material? AllaN01Bear Apr 2020 #53
It's part of Trump's ongoing efforts to deconstruct procon Apr 2020 #55
Masters in Cover Your Ass efforts. They can't get the really important LuckyLib Apr 2020 #56
Thom Hartmann just covered this story. ariadne0614 Apr 2020 #57
yeah...I can definitely see evidence of Sharpie in that ... Trueblue Texan Apr 2020 #58
Who fucking changed the law...............................who gave that pencil neck fucking asshole turbinetree Apr 2020 #59
Moving the goalposts in the dead of night. Nitram Apr 2020 #60
Loot the stockpile, sell it off, pocket the money. This is a firing squad-level offense. NBachers Apr 2020 #61
Putin misses the old days of Soviet glory. He must laugh himself to sleep every night... Hekate Apr 2020 #62
The page was changed April 3 between 13:44 and 16:10 TomVilmer Apr 2020 #63
Amen. I've been donating the Internet Archive for a number of years ... just for reasons like this progree Apr 2020 #68
Biden better authorize a crimes against humanity tribunal for these fuckers Fiendish Thingy Apr 2020 #64
Is there a way to share this on other social media outside of DU? efhmc Apr 2020 #65
Good catch, EarlG!! crickets Apr 2020 #66
No more words. dchill Apr 2020 #69
picked up by NY Daily News KayF Apr 2020 #70
I have a little inside information on that and I'm furious. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #72
trDumpie moved control of the federal medical strategic stockpile..... magicarpet Apr 2020 #80
Yes I know. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #83
Demonstrates RW disdain for the public intelligence Nululu Apr 2020 #73
Really makes one wonder what China did for the US bpositive Apr 2020 #74
... handmade34 Apr 2020 #76
It good to be da King. Chainfire Apr 2020 #77
Rachel Maddow needs to see this. BComplex Apr 2020 #78
UNACCEPTABLE budkin Apr 2020 #79
I'm bdamomma Apr 2020 #81
Kick BadgerMom Apr 2020 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author summer_in_TX Apr 2020 #84
Amateurs. ramen Apr 2020 #85
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. tclambert Apr 2020 #86
Covering your ass doesn't really work... MrModerate Apr 2020 #87

Walleye

(31,002 posts)
13. Sorry, getting bored, but what is beyond outraged?
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:01 PM
Apr 2020

I usually have a lot of faith that Americans will rise to the occasion. My only conclusion can be that the trump clan are not Americans at all. Russians maybe?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
2. Soviet-grade rewrite and airbrushing
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 11:51 AM
Apr 2020

Someone was a little slow in switching to the new Correct Policy ("it's not new, it's always been this" ) from the Party Central Committee.

TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
27. I don't understand how taxpayer-funded respirators are sent to NYC to be auctioned by private firms.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:25 PM
Apr 2020

JHB

(37,158 posts)
30. Jared told us how they view the situation...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:31 PM
Apr 2020

"They're OURS"

So they do what they want. Who's in a position to stop them?

Thanks Republicans.

Hugin

(33,112 posts)
5. I bet it was taken directly from the charter establishing the stockpiles.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 11:53 AM
Apr 2020

So, you are probably correct.

LakeVermilion

(1,039 posts)
7. of course it was,
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 11:54 AM
Apr 2020

the stockpile was created and funded by Congress. The House investigation can start right here.

Jared doesn't get to rewrite law.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
14. So who would we write to in the House to make them aware of the change?
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:01 PM
Apr 2020

I suppose it would be the chair of the committee having oversight over the stockpile. But I don't know what committee. Perhaps Appropriations since it has oversight of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education and Related Agencies. Or it could be Education and Labor.

They may already be aware but it can't hurt to write to committees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_House_of_Representatives_committees

bluescribbler

(2,114 posts)
50. I would think it is the House Committee on Oversight and Reform
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:22 PM
Apr 2020

Recently chaired by the late, great Rep. Elijah Cummings

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
71. I think this is the relevant controlling legislation.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:46 PM
Apr 2020

The Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Reauthorization Act of 2013 (Pub.L. 113–5, H.R. 307, enacted March 13, 2013) is a law enacted by the 113th United States Congress. The Act amends the Public Health Service Act in order to extend, fund, and improve several programs designed to prepare the United States and health professionals in the event of a pandemic, epidemic, or biological, chemical, radiological, or nuclear accident or attack.

The Act clarifies the authority of different American officials, makes it easier to temporarily reassign personnel to respond to emergency situations, and alters the process for testing and producing medical countermeasures. The Act is focused on improving preparedness for any public health emergency.

Section 403 reauthorizes the Strategic National Stockpile for FY 2014-FY2018. It requires the Secretary to:

(1) submit to the appropriate congressional committees, to the extent that the disclosure of such information does not compromise national security, the annual review of the contents of the Stockpile; and
(2) review and revise the contents of the Stockpile to ensure that the potential depletion of countermeasures currently in the Stockpile is identified and appropriately addressed, including through necessary replenishment.[4]

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
67. The magic hand of unregulated free market economies of hyper capitalism at work.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

Rape, plunder, and obscene profit and taking advantage of a pandemic for self enrichments.

..............

More,....

Gouged prices, middlemen and medical supply chaos: Why governors are so upset with Trump

Masks that used to cost pennies now cost several dollars. Companies outside the traditional supply chain offer wildly varying levels of price and quality. Health authorities say they have few other choices to meet their needs in a ‘dog-eat-dog’ battle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/gouged-prices-middlemen-medical-supply-chaos-why-governors-are-so-upset-with-trump/

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
88. Send them a bill. It's OURS, not theirs. Stealing, killing .lock them up. Gitmo would be good. Get
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 10:50 AM
Apr 2020

Them off the mainland.



Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
8. As far as I know there's no record of this
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 11:55 AM
Apr 2020

but I saw it with my own eyes. Just after Trump's inauguration, the WH web site was displaying the Bill of Rights - but all references to persons or people were changed to "citizens."

That "revision" has long since disappeared from the site, of course.

A maladministration that thinks it can re-write the Bill of Rights has no respect for any law or government document.

But we knew that.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
31. Bingo. What do they plan to do with "their" stockpile?
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:31 PM
Apr 2020

Their interactions with Ukraine provide a clue.

They can trade life saving equipment for favors - "We need a favor though."

They especially need to find a way to avoid future prosecutions in New York.

They are keen to reward supporters of Trump and punish critiques.

Remember, Trump functions like a narcissistic sociopath.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
16. Revisionist history is being written by the minute
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:06 PM
Apr 2020

Many many years ago when I first read the novel "1984" I liked the message but thought it was exaggerated to help make the point. I was wrong about that latter point.

musette_sf

(10,200 posts)
18. Just tested this myself
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:07 PM
Apr 2020

I was on the SNS website last night on my work computer. This morning, I went back via back arrow to the main SNS page which was still cached from my visit last night. The old text appeared. Did a refresh just now and yep, text now rewritten as described in the OP. I took screen shots.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
19. Oh my god. This monster is destroying us and seems to be sure he can get away with it
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:08 PM
Apr 2020

he nay be right, if we let him lie enough times.

atreides1

(16,070 posts)
21. He can
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:13 PM
Apr 2020

As long as he and is son in law give shares to the right Republicans...he'll get away with it...

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
23. Good catch, EarlG
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:16 PM
Apr 2020

They actually think they can change the mission of the DPA by editing a website to match what the featherweight mannequin said yesterday.

They’re looting the country and throwing up smokescreens while Americans lay dying.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,379 posts)
24. Comrade! Your eyes are revisionist hooligans! Report those backsliding lackeys for reeducation!
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:17 PM
Apr 2020

Seriously, "View page source" is your friend.

Right click on the page and select "View page source"

Line 133: new Date("2020-04-03T16:14:42.6720008Z" )

Line 538: >This page last reviewed: April 03, 2020<

Lines 560 and 561: 03 Apr 2020 16:14:42 -0000'; g_updateFormDigestPageLoaded = new Date();

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
75. Politco.com too,...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:54 PM
Apr 2020

Strategic National Stockpile description altered online after Kushner's remarks
The government website for the emergency repository appears to have been updated this morning.

But just hours earlier, the text characterized the stockpile as the "nation's largest supply of life-saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency severe enough to cause local supplies to run out."

The previous language stated that when "state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency."

Before it stated,...

The official government webpage for the Strategic National Stockpile was altered Friday to seemingly reflect a controversial description of the emergency repository that White House adviser Jared Kushner offered at a news conference Thursday evening.

According to a brief online summary on the Department of Health and Human Services website, the stockpile's role "is to supplement state and local supplies during public health emergencies. Many states have products stockpiled, as well."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/strategic-national-stockpile-description-altered-after-kushners-remarks-163181

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
28. Here's the statute, 42 U.S. Code sec. 247d:
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:25 PM
Apr 2020
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/247d-6b

It's quite long, but it includes multiple references to state and local entities, including: "to provide assistance, including technical assistance, to maintain and improve State and local public health preparedness capabilities to distribute and dispense medical countermeasures and products from the stockpile, as appropriate."

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
33. Jared made some kind of comment about 'our' supplies and eqt.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:40 PM
Apr 2020

Jared made some kind of comment about 'our' supplies and eqt.

As in 'the Trump administration's' supplies and eqt.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,379 posts)
34. The estate of George Orwell is going to sue this administration out of existence.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:47 PM
Apr 2020
The estate of George Orwell is going to sue this administration out of existence.


SnowCritter

(810 posts)
35. Reminds me of an episode of M*A*S*H
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 12:49 PM
Apr 2020

The one where Hawkeye and BJ go looking for an incubator for the unit.

coti

(4,612 posts)
41. Jared did a lot of research to make those website changes.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:04 PM
Apr 2020

As it turns out, it's NOT the federal government's responsibility to protect the lives of its citizens! Who knew?!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
43. Just park
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:10 PM
Apr 2020

the freezer trucks, filled with the dead, and park them in front of a Trump or Jared’s property.

They will own them too.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
44. Thanks EarlG! Does anyone have the link about Jared actually SENDING...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:11 PM
Apr 2020

shipments from the now depleated stockpile ("his stockpile&quot to his business buddies in China?

I can't remember where I saw or read that.

It is hard to keep up with the lies, gaslighting and bamboozlements.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
49. Kushner is selling the stuff to the highest bidder and no doubt with Trump's approval too.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:21 PM
Apr 2020

Treasonous grift weasels. People are dying because of this grifting. The boy needs an ass
kicking.


"Many states have products stockpiled, as well." No they don't.

erronis

(15,222 posts)
51. I had tried to get to that page about an hour ago but it was reported as "Server Unavailable"
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:23 PM
Apr 2020

Guess it took the crooks in the WH a bit too long to clean up their propaganda.

You'd think between the stable genius, s-i-l, and nazi miller that between them all they'd have the talents to modify a web page without rebooting the server.

William769

(55,144 posts)
52. EarlG take a look at this
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:26 PM
Apr 2020
The Trump administration just changed its description of the national stockpile to jibe with Jared Kushner’s controversial claim

The Trump administration on Friday changed its description of the Strategic National Stockpile on a government website after journalists noted that it contradicted a claim Jared Kushner had made about the program.

Kushner on Thursday evening offered a novel argument about the national stockpile. He said some states still had stockpiles that they hadn’t been employing for the coronavirus outbreak and that localities should go to them first. And then he suggested that the national stockpile wasn’t even meant for them.

“And the notion of the federal stockpile was it’s supposed to be our stockpile,” Kushner said. “It’s not supposed to be states’ stockpiles that they then use.”

As reporters quickly noted, that didn’t match with how the Department of Health and Human Services was describing the program. On its website, it said, “Strategic National Stockpile is the nation’s largest supply of life-saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency severe enough to cause local supplies to run out.” It continued to say, "When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trump-administration-just-changed-its-description-of-the-national-stockpile-to-jibe-with-jared-kushner-s-controversial-claim/ar-BB1288Bx?ocid=msedgntp


you da man!

procon

(15,805 posts)
55. It's part of Trump's ongoing efforts to deconstruct
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:39 PM
Apr 2020

the administrative state, an extreme, rightwing fringe political ideology that is determined to weaken all govt regulatory agencies and hollow out other bureaucratic entities to the point where they are no longer able to function.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
56. Masters in Cover Your Ass efforts. They can't get the really important
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:48 PM
Apr 2020

governmental work done, but can get to a website and alter it instantly.

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
58. yeah...I can definitely see evidence of Sharpie in that ...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:00 PM
Apr 2020

..."the stockpile can be used as a short-term stopgap buffer when the immediate supply of adequate amounts of these materials may not be immediately available."

Huh? What does that even mean?

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
59. Who fucking changed the law...............................who gave that pencil neck fucking asshole
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:02 PM
Apr 2020

the right to just fucking change the law.....................LOCK HIS FUCKING PENCIL NECK UP.................November 3, 2020 cannot get here fucking fast enough........

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
62. Putin misses the old days of Soviet glory. He must laugh himself to sleep every night...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:23 PM
Apr 2020

...at how blasphemously easy it has been to do this to the USA.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
63. The page was changed April 3 between 13:44 and 16:10
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:25 PM
Apr 2020

By the power of nice activists and the WayBack Machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.phe.gov/about/sns/Pages/default.aspx
(It was impossible to make this links work as a link here - copy it in full length to use!)

Original page at 13:44:14
https://web.archive.org/web/20200403134414/https://www.phe.gov/about/sns/Pages/default.aspx
Changed page at 16:10:34
https://web.archive.org/web/20200403161034/https://www.phe.gov/about/sns/Pages/default.aspx

Send your support to the fantastic WayBack Machine at the Internet Archive, a non-profit digital library of Internet sites. Also support the project by saving important webpages here yourself and thereby preserving their changes as credible documentation!

progree

(10,901 posts)
68. Amen. I've been donating the Internet Archive for a number of years ... just for reasons like this
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:43 PM
Apr 2020

We live in such Orwellian times and fortunately the Internet Archive is around to plug the memory hole or whatever the right term is.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
64. Biden better authorize a crimes against humanity tribunal for these fuckers
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:26 PM
Apr 2020

None of this “looking forward, not back” bullshit.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
65. Is there a way to share this on other social media outside of DU?
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:28 PM
Apr 2020

Never mind, I just saw it on Twitter.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
72. I have a little inside information on that and I'm furious.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:47 PM
Apr 2020

It's someone at the CDC who should have fucking known better.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
80. trDumpie moved control of the federal medical strategic stockpile.....
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

.... from the CDC.....

Its longtime director, Greg Burel, retired at the end of January, according to an agency spokeswoman. Adams, the deputy director, was left at the helm in an acting capacity.

And in 2018, the Trump administration shifted control of the stockpile from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to an office within the Department of Health and Human Services dedicated to emergency preparedness and response.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/10/coronavirus-strategic-national-stockpile/

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
83. Yes I know.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:25 PM
Apr 2020

Still know it was a CDC person responsible for the language change. H&HS folks are seething. It's a complete shit show.

bpositive

(423 posts)
74. Really makes one wonder what China did for the US
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:52 PM
Apr 2020

in order for us to deplete most of our life saving stockpile to save the Chinese people. I'm conflicted, on one hand I admit, it was a noble thing to do but on the other hand it really seems like a short sighted, ill- thought out, thing to do sacrificing ones own people.

Chainfire

(17,526 posts)
77. It good to be da King.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:01 PM
Apr 2020

So you can do things like changing the mission statement after the mission has failed.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
81. I'm
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:13 PM
Apr 2020

surprised it doesn't say the stockpile goes to the highest bidder, foreign governments, to the rich and not to the states.: sarcasm:

Response to EarlG (Original post)

ramen

(789 posts)
85. Amateurs.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:37 AM
Apr 2020

Thinking that the internet won't remember their revisionism.. not going to fly. Especially when people are sitting at home scared with access to the internet and an abundance of time..

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
86. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 02:05 AM
Apr 2020

Eurasia is our ally and always has been. Nothing has changed.

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