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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIsn't this the childish wrong use of the word, "Democrat" to describe
a representative rathan than the proper word, "Democratic"
I hear ignorant GOP members use it but never thought I'd read it in a story on MSN. Plus it is bad grammer.
"Robinson was a Democrat representative who served Michigan's 4th House District, which includes Hamtramck and a central portion of Detroit. He was in in his first term."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-state-rep-isaac-robinson-dies-at-age-44/ar-BB11T5jh?li=BBnb7Kz
My condolences to his family and to our party also. It is sad news about his passing.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Their way of irritating members of the Democratic Party.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)magicarpet
(14,149 posts).... the RePubz will start doing like this ...
The democRAT party,... that is essentially their hidden ambition and intent.
They seek to project the most vial and negative mental image the human mind can conjure so they can ramp up the hate just by the mention of our name.
Accentuate the RAT in democRAT, and they can shit trash that word like they previously shit trashed lib-urul,... and shit trash progressive. It is kind of rank sophomoric,.. or either that or rank Fascist frat boy attitude,... is the way most all of their minds are mis-wired child like, catty, and superficial,... but macho he man Fascist.
magicarpet
(14,149 posts)geralmar
(2,138 posts)"Rat, rat, dirty dirty Democrat!"
Bothered me not in the least.
magicarpet
(14,149 posts)It sounds like your friends and acquaintances of your youth maybe had parents with conservative outlooks and viewpoints.
Children do odd stuff like that, but that is too Nazi for my tastes. Even as a teenager I would not have tolerated that. That dogmatic exclusionary attitude.
Intermission.....
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)I dont hear rat when they say Democrat Party. I hear the whole word. They sound illiterate. Very strange.
magicarpet
(14,149 posts)That is the next stage,... soon coming,...
The next higher degree of Fascist propaganda coming our way,...
They can do it,..
They can accomplish it,...
The next level can easily be had for them if they succeed if disciplining themselves by use of the proper voice inflection.
*****~~~*****
Vocabulary.com Dictionary
inflection
Inflection refers to the ups and downs of a language. Even if you cant understand Italian yet, the inflection in your professors voice should tip you off to whether she's asking a question, giving a command, or making a joke.
.........
Inflection most often refers to the pitch and tone patterns in a person's speech: where the voice rises and falls. But inflection also describes a departure from a normal or straight course. When you change, or bend, the course of a soccer ball by bouncing it off another person, that's an example of inflection.
So let's apply inflection to democ-RAT,...
Try like this,..
de-mock,..
mock,.. as to mock somebody,.. cast off as being a fool or idiotic
de-moc- - -RAT.
democ- - - RAT,.. accentuate the word RAT.
democ.....
One one thousand,..
Two one thousand,..
Three one thousand,..
(ready go)
.
RAT.
democ- - - RAT.
There,... now you are ready for the big league - Fascist Frat Boy Nazi Propaganda Machine,.. Reality TV pResidential Soap Opera - 4 more years re-election marathon,.. brought to you by circus ring & clown car master Brad Parscale.
democ- - - RAT,.... say it loud and clear,...coast to coast,... far and wide.
Crank up the hate,... crank up the revulsion,... who likes RATS anyways ?
democ- - - RAT party.
Mission accomplished,.. Fascist propaganda and its political agendas have now met fruition.
The democ- - -RAT party has been sidelined and reduced to a laughing matter and a joke.
Fascist frat boy - Smirks/Giggles.
Like the Navy Cadets at the football game,... practicing, showing off, and displaying their Nazi - white power hand gesture salute.
Just for racist & Fascist shits and giggles.
magicarpet
(14,149 posts)... as Fascist tend to do.
democ- - - RAT party.
(End devil's advocate rant.)
malaise
(268,987 posts)onecaliberal
(32,854 posts)BBG
(2,537 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)Personally, I think it's OK if it's describing a single politician. Using my governor, I think it's OK to say "democrat JB Pritzker" rather than "democratic governor Pritzker".
When it's used as "democrat party", it's insulting.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)So both "Democrat JB Pritzker" and "Democratic Governor JB Pritzker" would be correct.
Using "Democrat" as an adjective (as in "Democrat Party," "Democrat Governor," etc.) just makes a person sound illiterate.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)I was more referencing the pejorative aspects.
magicarpet
(14,149 posts)That is why progressives/liberals are so intolerant of the use of democ- - - RAT party by Fascist ReThugs. Their intent and purpose is to weaponize the name of their opposing political competitors... to marginalize, to sideline, to shun,... and to make a joke of or mockery.
We are best off to put a halt to it instantaneously. Watch how MSNBC,.. Joy Reed responds to this juvenile delinquent, rude and insulting behavior. She shuts the perpetrator right down then back tracks, then makes them retract the "error"- she will not let slip by on her show.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)It is a childish form of insult to deliberately get someones name wrong. Also a way to show your tribal loyalty to the GOP. When I go into the voting booth, the ballot says The Democratic Party.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)Used it to frame his opponents... "Demo-CRAT"... accent on the last syllable.. I think there was a TV ad once that flashed the word "RAT" on screen. I'm too lazy to research now, sorry.
magicarpet
(14,149 posts)democ- - - RAT party.
de-mock- - - RAT party.
democ- - - RAT party.
Voice Reflection and accentuation on RAT.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...that weaponized it.
Gingrich is one. Lee Atwater is another. Talk radio hosts even before Rush.
Edited to add: See #20 below for Wikipedia page on the subject.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)...if forced to limit it to four. They're leaders in turning the Republican party into the mess that it is today.
nykym
(3,063 posts)Frank Luntz for that gem.
Here's a bit o info on him
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz
Walleye
(31,017 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)Walleye
(31,017 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)Girard442
(6,070 posts)Democratic Party or Democrat Party.
Either way, we're not those assholes.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)It's a shame it showed up in this context.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Stevegberg
(80 posts)They also continue to do it because they know we hate it.
coti
(4,612 posts)Like they did with "liberal." After a while, a person wasn't "liberal," they were "a liberal."
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)But, as mentioned above, Luntz and Gingrich really developed it into a verbal gang sign.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/08/07/the-ic-factor/amp
The New Yorker
by Hendrik Hertzberg
July 30, 2006
<snip>
The history of Democrat Party is hard to pin down with any precision, though etymologists have traced its use to as far back as the Harding Administration. According to William Safire, it got a boost in 1940 from Harold Stassen, the Republican Convention keynoter that year, who used it to signify disapproval of such less than fully democratic Democratic machine bosses as Frank Hague of Jersey City and Tom Pendergast of Kansas City. Senator Joseph McCarthy made it a regular part of his arsenal of insults, which served to dampen its popularity for a while. There was another spike in 1976, when grumpy, growly Bob Dole denounced Democrat wars (those were the days!) in his Vice-Presidential debate with Walter Mondale. Growth has been steady for the last couple of decades, and today we find ourselves in a golden age of anti-ic-ism.
In the conservative media, the phenomenon feeds more voraciously the closer you get to the mucky, sludgy bottom. Democrat Party is standard jargon on right-wing talk radio and common on winger Web sites like NewsMax.com, which blue-pencils Associated Press dispatches to de-ic references to the Party of F.D.R. and J.F.K. (The resulting impression that Democrat Party is O.K. with the A.P. is as phony as a North Korean travel brochure.) The respectable conservative journals of opinion sprinkle the phrase around their Web sites but go light on it in their print editions. William F. Buckley, Jr., the Miss Manners cum Dr. Johnson of modern conservatism, dealt with the question in a 2000 column in National Review, the magazine he had founded forty-five years before. I have an aversion to Democrat as an adjective, Buckley began.
Dear Joe McCarthy used to do that, and received a rebuke from this at-the-time 24-year-old. It has the effect of injecting politics into language, and that should be avoided. Granted there are diffculties, as when one desires to describe a democratic politician, and is jolted by possible ambiguity.
But English does that to us all the time, and its our job to get the correct meaning transmitted without contorting the language.
The job of politicians, however, is different, and among those of the Republican persuasion Democrat Party is now nearly universal. This is partly the work of Newt Gingrich, the nominal author of the notorious 1990 memo Language: A Key Mechanism of Control, and his Contract with America pollster, Frank Luntz, the Johnny Appleseed of such linguistic innovations as death tax for estate tax and personal accounts for Social Security privatization. Luntz, who road-tested the adjectival use of Democrat with a focus group in 2001, has concluded that the only people who really dislike it are highly partisan adherents of thehow you say?Democratic Party. Those two letters actually do matter, Luntz said the other day. He added that he recently finished writing a bookits entitled Words That Workand has been diligently going through the galley proofs taking out the hundreds of ics that his copy editor, one of those partisan Dems, had stuck in.
In days gone by, the anti-ic tic tended to be reined in at the Presidential level. Ronald Reagan never used it in polite company, and George Bush père was too well brought up to use the truncated version of the out partys name more than sparingly. Not so Bush filsand not just in e-mails sent to the Party faithful, which he obviously never reads, let alone writes. Its time for the leadership in the Democrat Party to start laying out ideas, he said a few weeks ago, using his own personal mouth. The Democrat Party showed its true colors during the tax debate, he said a few months before that. Nobody from the Democrat Party has actually stood up and called for actually getting rid of the terrorist surveillance program, he said a week before that. What he meant is anybodys guess, but his bad manners were impossible to miss. Hard as it is to believe from this distance in time, George W. Bush came to office promising to change the tone. That he has certainly done. But, as with so much else, it hasnt worked out quite the way he promised.
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magicarpet
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