Early trial shows hydroxychloroquine is NOT effective at treating Coronavirus

[iluvtennis]

Kaivan Shroff@KaivanShroff·13h
An early trial shows hydroxychloroquine is NOT effective at treating Coronavirus, but the drug does have deadly side-effects for many patients.

Trump just told the entire country to take this.

Don’t drink the Kool-Aid.

Link to tweet

https://news.yahoo.com/small-trial-finds-hydroxychloroquine-not-124054137.html

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trump was on national tv yesterday telling people that ventilators won't help them and that they should take hydroxychloroquine. he says, what do you have to lose.

[Raven123]

1. So the coronavirus defied Trump? Don't be surprised if he tries to fire it... of demand Fauci do it

[jimfields33]

2. A small trial is not enough to prove one way or the other

I’m actually hoping this works. I don’t care if trump pats himself. I want lives saved. This may not be it, but there’s something out there. I don’t see poo pooing a good thing.

[CountAllVotes]

3. Exactly!

You need 30 subjects to conduct a study to begin with and many of them to compare and contrast the results.

The study in France had FIVE subjects, FIVE.

Dump is THE PUSHER MAN!

God damn the Pusher!

[iluvtennis]

4. point is that we don't yet have the data to know if it is a good thing or not a good thing for CV.

hydroxychloroquine has yet to approved by the FDA for use on Covid-19.

BTW, this drug was approved for treatment of rheumatoid arthritis and my mom took it for couple of years. the side effect in her case was the creation of cataracts, so the doctor took her off of it.

[jimfields33]

5. Cataracts? Everyone gets those

In fact every time I go to the eye doctor, I say this is it? The doctor says not even close. Ugh! I want the procedure to get rid of my glasses. Only readers would be awesome.

I’d rather not have the pain of arthritis.

[CountAllVotes]

7. My Dad had malaria

He used different types of this drug and other malaria drugs for a number of years, including drinking tonic water. Tonic water used to contain a lot more quinine in it than it does today.

Therefore, it became ineffective for him and he decided the side-effects from it were worse than the malaria was!

It angers me something fierce that this drug, which has not been property tested for use in COVID-19, is being pushed by dump as it is not safe and those that need it for other medical conditions like lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and some forms of malaria cannot get it as it now stands.

It seems that some medical professionals are hoarding supplies of it thinking it works. I read yesterday that Nevada banned its use. However, I also read the the Gov. of Nevada now has a huge stock pile on hand! If this is true, rot in hell fucker!

[Tucker08087]

22. I've taken it for 10 years.

It can cause blindness. You need to get the nerves that connect your eyes to your brain checked every six months.

[rockfordfile]

16. Cut the bs. Trump is lying. Why did you believe a Traitor like trump?

[GaYellowDawg]

18. Hey, it's not a matter of believing or disbelieving Trump.

It's a matter of knowing what constitutes appropriate implications from a small study. Science is science, no matter what Trump is saying.

[rockfordfile]

29. Actually it's about trump and the faux News lies. A few people are actually listening to trump still

[Raine]

30. I agree and hope they find that it works

after more trials, we need something.

[Blue_true]

6. "What do you have to lose?" Is a life enough? God, Trump is an unfeeling dumbass. nt

[gristy]

8. Indeed. A reporter might ask if he'll take it when he catches Covid-19.

After all, she could continue, what would you have to lose?

[MuseRider]

9. I took hydroxychloroquine

for years and there are many DUers who do now for their AI diseases. I take chloroquine now. I do not think this is meant to treat, I was under the impression they were studying if it kept you from getting the worst of the conditions.

Hydroxychloroquine has side effects certainly but I was never told they were apt to kill just to keep checking your eyesight. I must have used it for somewhere between 5-10 years. Are they giving massive doses or what? Almost anything will kill you if you overdose on it daily.

This whole thing is ridiculous. Forget that Trump said to use it, he may have been told that by someone who knew what they were talking about and for some unknown and very odd reason he remembered that. It is not his place, of course, to recommend drug treatments. He probably thought the name of the drug sounded smart so he repeated it often enough to be able to say it and so he keeps on. It may be right but certainly not because of Trump.

Once medical treatments become the fodder of politicians and a fight breaks out real progress and knowledge is out the window because none of us ever wants to admit we were wrong. If this turns out to really be worth taking there now has to be a lot of embarrassed people. It never should have become political fodder.

[jeffreyi]

10. Just read somewhere...

Twitter maybe. A healthy percentage of people being admitted to hospital for Covid-19 were already taking that drug for their lupus. I will try to find the link and edit this post.

[Tucker08087]

23. That makes sense.

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They use it for autoimmune diseases because it’s an immunosuppressant. I have to get labs every month because it drops my white count drastically. The only defense we have right now is our white cells, so naturally people who are taking it are in the high risk group and will end up getting CV19 more often and worse.

[jeffreyi]

28. Got it.

But as for the hydroxyquinone being a panacea?

[jmg257]

11. That sucks, Cuomo was counting on it.

[Brother Buzz]

12. And to think the orange anus now has a warehouse filled the the rafters with hydroxychloroquine...

right next to his walk-in freezers filled wit 'freezer burn' steaks.

[ThoughtCriminal]

13. Hydroxychloroquine is going to become the next Laetrile

Even if it turns out to be useless for COVID, it has become a political drug because Trump "endorsed" it

For those who do not remember, laetrile was a quack cancer "cure" that became a popular cause with far-right politicians in the 1970s.

[BamaRefugee]

14. Trump HAS TO HAVE a huge stake in the drug, he's flogging it like a coked-up timeshare salesman

[rockfordfile]

17. I agree

[Yonnie3]

15. It is my recollection that this and similar drugs were touted as promising for HIV, SARS, MERSA etc.

Testing in vitro (test tubes) showed great things. To my knowledge, studies in humans never resulted in these drugs being used for any of these illnesses.

About Hydroxychloroquine use for malaria per the CDC: " There are only a few places left in the world where hydroxychloroquine is still effective including parts of Central America and the Caribbean."

Is this a solution in search of a problem? Sales and use of this drug had declined.

All that said, if a controlled study shows it helps, I would be delighted.

[Takket]

19. this is why what drumpf has been saying is so dangerous........

he has been pushing this to the front of the line based on those flawed early studies and creating false confidence in people that the drug is a miracle cure, so no reason to stay home, right!

he needs to shut the fuck up and wait for the medical community to say what patients should be taking, not the other way around

[ananda]

20. I swear he and Jared have a vested interest in this drug.

They want to corner the market, and sell it
by hook or by crook.

[denem]

21. Forsythia

Forsythia Forsythia Forsythia

[C Moon]

24. He not only told the country to take it, he raved about it.

[Cozmo]

25. Is the asshole taking it? Gee, I hope so!

[JDC]

26. Fuckin idiot is wrong again. Zero surprise

[SWBTATTReg]

27. If I'm not mistakened, India has banned the export of this drug anyways. If we don't have

an alternate supply chain, then I don't know what will happen, if this drug is even viable for use against the CV, which they haven't proved 100% yet.

[ProfessorGAC]

31. It's Available Over The Net

Well at least the listings are there.
I didn't dive in. Those might be wholesale sites anyway.

[Drahthaardogs]

32. We will know if weeks

They did some robust studies in New York. If it is working, we will see.