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Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 01:11 AM Apr 2020

Politico rates the best and worst gubernatorial responses.

Best

1. Ohio - DeWine (R)
2. Calfornia - Newsom (D)
3. Washington - Inslee (D)
4. Maryland - Hogan (R)
5. Michigan - Whitmer (D)
6. Puerto Rico - Vaszuez (New Progressive)

Worst

1. Florida - DeSantis (R)
2. Mississippi - Reeves (R)
3. Oklahoma - Stitt (R)
4. Hawaii - Ige (D)
5. Alabama - Ivey (R)
6. West Virginia - Justice (R)

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2020/04/01/coronavirus-state-governors-best-worst-covid-19-159945

I hope those of you trashing states based on whether they are red or blue will take note (both of the two red states in the top 6 - and the blue state in the bottom 6). Lives are at stake here - we need to leave politics out of it and focus on working together to do the right thing.

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Politico rates the best and worst gubernatorial responses. (Original Post) Ms. Toad Apr 2020 OP
I disagree. murielm99 Apr 2020 #1
And Kentucky's Andy Beshear sandensea Apr 2020 #2
Then you have obviously not been paying attention to what Ohio has been doing. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #9
I haven't read a single word of complaint about DeWine renate Apr 2020 #15
Cuomo has done an excellent job Steelrolled Apr 2020 #4
Agreed - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #12
Chiming in again on your praise for DeWine renate Apr 2020 #16
Absolutely! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #17
Politico leans Reich-wing S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #3
The sources I checcked list it as leaning left. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #10
FYI Readers of this thread: This is an opinion piece not based on any measurable metrics. Coventina Apr 2020 #5
Any Best Of List That Doesn't Include NY's Cuomo and Beshear of KY is Bullsh*t. Indykatie Apr 2020 #6
Have you even bothered to compare Cuomo's action to DeWine's Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #11
Arguably, DeWine learned and took actions based on what Cuomo, (and others), had already done. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #21
DeWine has been planning since January, with his Obama-organizer-head of health dept Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #22
The biggest issue in NY I saw Steelrolled Apr 2020 #23
I've heard that as well. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #24
Kentucky - Best, Georgia - Worst. Funtatlaguy Apr 2020 #7
I hadn't been paying a lot of attention to KY - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #13
I'd say Newsom has been the best. W_HAMILTON Apr 2020 #8
KY Gov Beshear has to be close to the top Wanderlust988 Apr 2020 #14
I took a quick look last night Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #20
I never thought I would praise DeWine Maeve Apr 2020 #18
You and more both. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #19

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
2. And Kentucky's Andy Beshear
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 01:33 AM
Apr 2020

Almost looks like the op-ed writer was trying to add those two Republicans to the list - you know, "for balance."

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
9. Then you have obviously not been paying attention to what Ohio has been doing.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:08 AM
Apr 2020

Last edited Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:11 AM - Edit history (1)

DeWine has been in the lead on virtually every step in handling this pandemic. He hired an Obama organizer as his director of the health department - striking both because he hired a vocal Democrat - and because he hired a doctor for the position (something the past two administrations did not) expressly becuase he wanted his health policy based on science.

He has deferred to her at every step as to how to guide the state through this pandemic.

(I have no specific knowledge as to what the other Republican is doing - I'll have to let residents of that state agree or disagree).

And just why do you think a left-leaning entity, in an editorial, would be stretching to include Republicans?

Here's another article about what DeWine is doing on this issue: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52113186

ETA: I just did a quick check on KY - and it seems to have been acting in lockstep with the step DeWine has been taking. So I'll agree that Beshear should probably be on the list (not knowing anything specific about what the other 5 are doing beyond what the piece says) - but not that DeWine was added for "balance." He's there becuase he has ben doing the right thing.

renate

(13,776 posts)
15. I haven't read a single word of complaint about DeWine
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:31 AM
Apr 2020

Just the opposite. It sounds like he’s been doing a phenomenal job.

As you did, it’s essential to give credit where credit is due. This shouldn’t be a question of politics but of competence.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
4. Cuomo has done an excellent job
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 01:52 AM
Apr 2020

But it took him a while to get started, and I never understood what was going on between him and de Blasio.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
12. Agreed -
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:52 AM
Apr 2020

But on the 5 major things I checked, he was behind DeWine in terms of days since the first case in the state - and on the number of cases in the state.

But DeWine was way out in the lead. We had a grand total of 3 cases when Universities were told to expect to be closed. We were well on our way to having switched to online education when the formal order came. Pretty much every action DeWine has taken he has signaled for 2-3 days before he issues the order. So the dates of his orders lag the actual implementation in most instances.

renate

(13,776 posts)
16. Chiming in again on your praise for DeWine
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:35 AM
Apr 2020

Good for you, for truth and for all kinds of reasons.

Your clear-headedness shows up the difference between us and them. They want to blame Obama after three years of Trump; we just care about results.

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
3. Politico leans Reich-wing
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 01:43 AM
Apr 2020

Keep that in mind when you read them.
A source I enjoy is

https://electoral-vote.com

They stick with the facts as best they can and the facts lean Liberal.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
5. FYI Readers of this thread: This is an opinion piece not based on any measurable metrics.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 01:59 AM
Apr 2020

It's an interesting read, and I'm glad you posted it.

I do have to say I did ultimately find it a little unsatisfying.

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
6. Any Best Of List That Doesn't Include NY's Cuomo and Beshear of KY is Bullsh*t.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 02:18 AM
Apr 2020

In their zeal to be "balanced" they've given 2 spots to Republican Governors on the Best list that should go to Beshear and Cuomo.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
11. Have you even bothered to compare Cuomo's action to DeWine's
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:48 AM
Apr 2020

Cuomo has been behind DeWine on a number of decisions - absolutely on some, and in comparison to when cases appeared in the state.

NY 1st case - March 1
NY Declaration of state of emergency - March 7 (Six days later, when it already had 76 cases)
Higher education closed - I don't see any order pertaining to this, aside from the general stay-at-home order
Secondary education closed - March 15 (3 days after Ohio, 14 days aftter its first case when NY had 1004 cases)
Restaurants closed - March 15 (14 days after its first case, when NY had 1004 cases)
Stay-at-home order - March 20 (19 days after its first case, when NY had 3699 cases)


OH 1st case - March 9
OH Declaration of state of emergency - March 9 (the same day had its first confirmed case)
Higher education closed - March 13 (4 days after its first case, when Ohio had 440 cases)
Secondary education closed - March 12 (3 days after its first case, when Ohio had 342 cases)
Restaurants closed - March 15 (6 days after its first case, when Ohio had 822 cases)
Stay-at-home order - March 22 (13 days after its first case, when Ohio had 1818 cases)

I've hit the major items and, as you can see, there is not a single item that Cuomo beat Ohio on in comparison to the presence of COVID 19 in the state. In every instance, when Cuomo took action it was longer after the first case, and after more individuals were infected than when DeWine took the same action.

The only two New York ordered earlier on a strict chronological basisDeclaration of a state of emergenct - Ohio had no cases at all on the day NY declared its state of emergency; Ohio's stay-at home order was two days after NY.

I'm not saying Cuomo is doing a bad job - he's doing a good job, and has much denser population areas to deal with. But it is ridiculus to say that Cuomo should replace DeWine on the list when you compare when each took the same action compared to the state of the pandemic in their respectve states - unless your sole criteria is politics.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
22. DeWine has been planning since January, with his Obama-organizer-head of health dept
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:31 PM
Apr 2020

And since he led NY on several things, and led the nation on closing public schools, I think it far more likely that he is learning from the head of his health department.

Further - if he learned, good for him. There are still governors from both parties who haven't learned.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
23. The biggest issue in NY I saw
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:59 PM
Apr 2020

was the apparent bickering between Cuomo and De Blasio. I think that actually slowed things down, maybe due to egos, and as a result hurt New York. I imagine we will hear more about that, once things get better. Maybe someone from NYC can explain the background on that.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
24. I've heard that as well.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:23 PM
Apr 2020

I don't have enough personal knowledge to know the cause. I'm just observing the actions and dates relative to the state of the pandemic in each state.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
13. I hadn't been paying a lot of attention to KY -
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:08 AM
Apr 2020

But from a quick glance it certainly looks like it ought to be on the list. It took action on approximately the same speed as Ohio has been - at least relative to the number of cases in the state (times were a bit longer for some, but COVID 19 was not growing as quickly).

That doesn't surprise me, since I know the governors of at least KY, MI, and OH have been in very close communication with each other - and have been taking similar steps.

Wanderlust988

(509 posts)
14. KY Gov Beshear has to be close to the top
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:24 AM
Apr 2020

He was one of the most proactive governors in the country and he has super high approval ratings. Kentucky's rate is low compared to border states. There's no way he can't be in the top 5.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
20. I took a quick look last night
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:16 AM
Apr 2020

They seem to be moving in lockstep with Ohio - so not knowing what the other top 5 are doing, I agree.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
18. I never thought I would praise DeWine
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:04 AM
Apr 2020

But I will say that he has stepped up to the plate and followed Dr Acton's advice all along.

Still wouldn't ever vote for him, but have to give him due credit for his actions in this situation.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
19. You and more both.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:13 AM
Apr 2020

And i still can't imagine voting for him. But i hope the article is right about the possibility of him influencing a post trump Republican party. Once upon a time democrats and republicans could work with each other and work out deals instead of just outfitting each other, then litigating the new law to death. (And wiping out all traces of what the other party did when they were in office.). It would be nice if he could help influence that.

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