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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHeard at our local small grocer in SW Ohio.
We shopped for some lunch meat and other things and were at the checkout.
We were at the checkout with a middle-aged lady as the cashier. My wife mentioned that she would like to get home in time to watch the mayor and governor (DeWine) and their daily news conference. She then said she thought they were doing a good job. The cashier said. The governors ARE doing a good job. The president, huh, not so much. She saw me with an ear-to-ear smile on my face than added, He's an idiot. There, I said it." My smile went beyond my ears.
This is located in the middle of a red township that thinks St. Ronald of Reagan is the patron saint of all that is good. I sure hope this is a sign that the tide is turning.
samnsara
(17,605 posts)Ohiogal
(31,911 posts)But will they vote blue in November? Or will they have short memories.
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)plus those not involved w/ the CV at all, be treated like crap by rump and cronies, when they cut future SS benefits to 'balance their budget' massively.
It's pretty hard to forget bad treatment.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)intent. These people will vote to save their lives. Nothing focuses the mind like a gun to the head.
spudspud
(511 posts)but short of one of their own dying from COVID, they'll go into the booth and vote for Trump again.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)Because as more and more people know that Trump is not responsible for the C-19 virus
but he is responsible for the federal govt.'s response to the virus and the coming pandemic
and as all those red voters know somebody who is sick and or died because of C-19 and
as their jobs go away and their 401k plans fall to nothing Trump will keep losing voters.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)And run it over and over in a 30 second spot each time showing the number of CV cases climbing and the deaths climbing. No voice over needed. Maybe just a loud bell sound with each increasing set of numbers.
FUCK HIM............
Botany
(70,447 posts)And if we have anything on Trump & Kushner grifting off of the C-19 pandemic we
can run that too. Especially Trump trying to make money from his own brand of
C-19 test kits and his pimping of hydroxychloroquine when he had a stake in the
company that makes it.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)murielm99
(30,717 posts)I wonder what they are saying there.
gibraltar72
(7,498 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)nothing's gonna change for them.
Ever.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)Nope,Trump has their vote even if he's killed off their grandma. But there are millions of fence setters who want leadership,not this buffoon.
calimary
(81,110 posts)I always think of it as working to save their souls. And their country. Which is also MY country.
Anymore, I find myself thinking of the work we're doing in our Indivisible group here - as saving our country.
EVERYTHING and ANYTHING you do, or can do, to reach just even one more voter on the urgency of November, is helpful.
progressoid
(49,947 posts)My hope is that a good percentage of them will be disinclined to even go to the voting booth because of his bullshit.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Hopefully more will come to their senses
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Thats more likely than that shes come to her senses. I know a few people whos entire families were MAGATs, yet they werent.
Person of Interest
(365 posts)calimary
(81,110 posts)Welcome! From one of those "old enough to remember Reagan" and would "find Trump to be repellent" whether Reagan had clouded our vision or not.
And back then, I thought Reagan was the worst we'd see. (Well, at least til dubya...)
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)See their loved ones sick or dying, families laid off, 401Ks drained down the tube, so many with no Insurance, listening to Trump ramble through each day they are not likely to forget that.
I remember when Obama ran the counties all down the Ohio River from Portsmouth to Cincinnati that voted blood red for 100 years voted for Obama. People were amazed, but the times they are a changin!
Skittles
(153,113 posts)I refuse to be encouraged because it takes the threat of DEATH for some people to see the OBVIOUS
Olafjoy
(937 posts)Was about ready to FedEx her some. This is our life. SMFH.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)I live in SW Ohio, and many of us have been conditioned to keep quiet about liberal or anti-right wing viewpoints.
Meeting like-minded people often involves discreetly dropping hints about it. I assume its akin to how gay men would manage to hook up, especially in years past.
I took an Amtrak trip through California a few years ago, and the guy next to me LOUDLY expressed his anti-right wing thoughts. It was just like the loudmouth right-wingers around here, except with liberal ideas. I joined in, but then I started looking around after awhile, paranoid about others hearing us. All of the other passengers acted like it was commonplace. Some of them had a remorseful blank expression, though, which reminded me of how some people look in this area when a loud-mouth right-winger spouts off in public.
Edit: Ive made the mistake of revealing liberal ideas at jobs, and I was treated completely different by coworkers thereafter. I was previously viewed as a hard-working good guy who always tried to be helpful, but was suddenly an asshole because of my political beliefs. Given that my bosses and other managers were almost always right-wingers, it usually didnt pan out well for me.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Elderly and ill, he and his wife have to stay home these days.
Says watching Trump on TV is one of his few pleasures.
(Oh, and he's an evangelical christian)
marble falls
(57,010 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)and I can't see their smiles since they/we are covered with masks.
I last went out 11 days ago and I was the only one with mask and gloves. Today half of the people have them on. I am surprised your store wasn't having workers wear them. We can't even carry bags into the store, plexi partitions are up around checkers who can't bag your stuff...you have to do it. Also, people were respecting the "stop here" signs on the floor 6' apart.