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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:29 PM Apr 2020

'Doctors disagree all the time': Navarro drags Fauci feud into the public

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro on Monday questioned the experience and medical judgment of Dr. Anthony Fauci — dragging his reported dispute with the nation's top infectious disease expert out of the Situation Room and onto cable news.

In a fiery interview on CNN, Navarro appeared to confirm media accounts of his altercation with Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, during a meeting of the White House coronavirus task force Saturday. The clash focused on the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine, a controversial potential treatment for the coronavirus that President Donald Trump has promoted despite limited clinical evidence.

"There was that discussion on Saturday, and if we didn't have disagreement and debate in the Trump administration, this administration would not be as strong as it is," Navarro said of the incident, which reportedly saw him spar with Fauci, who has voiced caution about hydroxychloroquine's potential to combat the coronavirus.

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Navarro, who has no medical experience, went on to assert that "doctors disagree about things all the time," and forcefully defended his credentials as sufficient for him to weigh in on the scientific deliberation over the drug.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doctors-disagree-all-the-time-navarro-drags-fauci-feud-into-the-public/ar-BB12e6SC?li=BBnb7Kz

All these self appointed experts. One trait of a good leader is the ability to delegate responsibility to the right people.

No one knows it all especially Donald Trump and Peter Navarro.

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Yonnie3

(17,437 posts)
3. "doctors disagree about things all the time,"
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:33 PM
Apr 2020

You are not a medical doctor.

As we used to say on the other side of the pond, "piss off Navarro"

still_one

(92,190 posts)
4. Navarro is a supposed economist which 95% of the economists disagree with. Now he assumes
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:34 PM
Apr 2020

he knows more than the majority of the medical community

I cannot tell you how much disgust i have for these people

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. Afraid we're playing into trump's hands. American Thoracic Society "suggests" in report released
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:06 PM
Apr 2020

today that using hydroxychloroquine in cases where patient is hospitalized with evidence of pneumonia. They do not make any recommendation -- yea or nay -- on using it in other cases, or on other drugs being tried at this time.

". . . . . . . For hospitalized patients with COVID‐19 who have evidence of pneumonia, we suggest hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) on a case‐by‐case basis

Requirements include all of the following: a) shared decision‐making in which the patient is informed about the possible benefits and
potential side effects, b) collection of data in a manner that enables studies that use valid methods for causal inference and control of confounders for the purpose of interim assessment, c) the patient’s clinical condition is sufficiently severe to warrant investigational therapy, and d) there is not a shortage of drug supply. . . . . . ."

https://www.consultant360.com/exclusive/pulmonology/ats-releases-consensus-hydroxychloroquine-use-other-treatment-methods

https://www.thoracic.org/professionals/clinical-resources/disease-related-resources/covid-19-guidance.pdf


More anecdotal evidence. There have been several threads about David Lat on DU. Here's the latest from him:

“Not an #AprilFoolsDay Joke,” he tweeted. “After 17 days at @nyulangone, including 6 days on a ventilator, I’m being discharged!”

"Lat listed the drugs he received in a Tuesday interview with the New York Law Journal conducted by direct messaging on Twitter.

He said he received IL-6 inhibitors called Kevzara, Tocilizumab and Clazakizumab; the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine combined with the antibiotic azithromycin; and an antiviral called Remdesivir. [Bolded are drugs the Racist-in-Chief has been "prescribing."]

IL-6 inhibitors target interleukin-6, a protein that plays a role in inflammation. Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral drug. Hydroxychloroquine may interfere with the ability of the novel coronavirus to enter cells, the Associated Press has reported.
In terms of what did the trick, the doctors can’t say,” Lat told the New York Law Journal. . . . . . .

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/above-the-law-founder-david-lat-being-discharged-from-the-hospital-COVID-19






Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
7. No...medical doctors tend to agree with the exception of a few crackpots.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:16 PM
Apr 2020

...once in a few decades a crackpot may be correct. But its rare.

Economists however, disagree all the time, in fact, even when they agree they will find a reason to disagree for the sake of the argument. But I'm pretty sure most economists will say Peter Navarro is a dumb ass.

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