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Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:18 PM Apr 2020

That Modly scumbucket just issued an apology

Acting @SECNAV just issued an apology to the Navy for his comments today.






I kinda figured he would because LOSER45 seemed a bit sheepish about the affair at his rally this afternoon and most likely forced him into it

Nevertheless, fuck you all
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That Modly scumbucket just issued an apology (Original Post) Leghorn21 Apr 2020 OP
Still said it out loud. Don't accept his apology. dhol82 Apr 2020 #1
If Modly is so "naive or stupid" as to blieve this was appropriate in the first place, remove him SharonAnn Apr 2020 #91
Yes! dhol82 Apr 2020 #113
I say BS to the apology. GP6971 Apr 2020 #2
Fuck him. ZZenith Apr 2020 #3
My words out loud to myself Bev54 Apr 2020 #7
They're gonna make us remove them, I'm afraid. ZZenith Apr 2020 #23
Exactly! Fuck him! StarryNite Apr 2020 #38
F..K that. He flew all the way to Guam to chastise the crew for supporting the Captain hlthe2b Apr 2020 #4
Using my taxpayer dollars to do so drmeow Apr 2020 #6
This. MontanaMama Apr 2020 #84
AND he had all those hours of travel to think about using good judgment. NOW he apologizes. ancianita Apr 2020 #66
F@#k him. Freedomofspeech Apr 2020 #5
Fug him. sheshe2 Apr 2020 #8
NOT GOOD ENOUGH chia Apr 2020 #9
Naw, fuck that ... Modly most likely found out the Captain went up through CoC properly & his CoC... uponit7771 Apr 2020 #10
Thought the same. Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #44
I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #62
Class ranking is everything for Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #70
Too late, mouldy. You said out out loud to 5.000 witnesses. May the virus get you. niyad Apr 2020 #11
Thank him for the apology. elleng Apr 2020 #12
+1 n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #34
Sorry, he's not in the service sarge43 Apr 2020 #78
Reinstate and resign. It's the right thing to do. C_U_L8R Apr 2020 #13
He's lost the Navy Generic Brad Apr 2020 #95
He is sorry his speech was recorded. dalton99a Apr 2020 #14
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Apr 2020 #19
DING DING DING!!! sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #40
Ironically, the recording proved Modly was guilty of what he was accusing Crozier of flibbitygiblets Apr 2020 #99
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, you nimrod Brother Buzz Apr 2020 #15
How to put toothpaste back in tube. spike jones Apr 2020 #93
an apology without a resignation is insincere IMO. well he is a trumpite after all nt msongs Apr 2020 #16
That doesn't work. If he's too dumb to know better defacto7 Apr 2020 #17
Damage control ck4829 Apr 2020 #18
Fuck this guy. He can "apologize" by resigning hatrack Apr 2020 #20
An apology? Trump will fire him, I bet. Ilsa Apr 2020 #21
Here's how this "apology" played out. King Tangeranus realized very quickly how bullwinkle428 Apr 2020 #22
Yep smb Apr 2020 #112
I believe Moldy should get a second chance, sarisataka Apr 2020 #24
Perhaps on "Apprentice- Navy Edition" IggleDuer Apr 2020 #41
"Can I keep my job, pretty please?" crickets Apr 2020 #25
Publicly releasing this letter is more inappropriate than the Captain's letter, IMHO. Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 #26
words just words demtenjeep Apr 2020 #27
Too little, too late BigMin28 Apr 2020 #28
Good. He owed an apology ... Laelth Apr 2020 #29
Too little, too late. Why even bother? nt Laffy Kat Apr 2020 #30
Make him walk the plank. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #31
Fuck you and your forced apology. nt Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #32
Apologize for confusion? No one was confused. His character assassination was Trumpian Raven123 Apr 2020 #33
I want to see the actual email cc list relayerbob Apr 2020 #35
I think that's a sure bet. sarge43 Apr 2020 #83
I've been wondering about that. crickets Apr 2020 #90
Yep relayerbob Apr 2020 #94
Is this satire????Just obeying orders? Who the fuck wrote the speech??????? Freethinker65 Apr 2020 #36
Add "Support the Troops" to the long list of things Trump worshippers get to STFU about! n/t brewens Apr 2020 #37
He is toast....Trump will throw him inder the bus quickly ashredux Apr 2020 #39
Yep sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #43
That would be humorous to witness. He didn't hesitate to launch an all-out attack on him. Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #46
those plugs tho! musette_sf Apr 2020 #81
Turd chestnut eleny Apr 2020 #42
Not an apology. sheshe2 Apr 2020 #45
That was the most unprofessional, condescending, rhetoric-filled speech I've heard. C Moon Apr 2020 #47
Ditto! SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #75
Two words malaise Apr 2020 #48
I think he should go see Crozier in person and give him the apology "in grantcart Apr 2020 #49
Now you're talkin, grantcart Leghorn21 Apr 2020 #56
Oh, look, a certain someone held a Trump to his head so he's folding. JHB Apr 2020 #50
I have lost confidence in the Commander in Chief. Marcuse Apr 2020 #51
I'm sorry I flew all the way to Guam... SoCal Roomba Apr 2020 #52
Nailed it! Welcome to DU, SoCal Roomba. crickets Apr 2020 #67
Fuck him. happybird Apr 2020 #53
Who here thinks Trump put him up to that? Not the apology but Marie Marie Apr 2020 #54
Good question, Marie Marie - but I think it was Modly the psycho trying to impress his psycho Leghorn21 Apr 2020 #68
Sometimes apologies SlogginThroughIt Apr 2020 #55
How passive-aggressive of him. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #57
Now fucking resign and take your 3/4's of a real appology with you ... marble falls Apr 2020 #58
Apology not accepted. JDC Apr 2020 #59
+1 Rebl2 Apr 2020 #69
The acting jackass is toast. paleotn Apr 2020 #60
Mission accomplished: they got the message out to their base.... keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #61
"...any pain my remarks... 3catwoman3 Apr 2020 #63
THat's not much of an apology... SeattleVet Apr 2020 #64
I Believe His First Statement DallasNE Apr 2020 #65
How do we know he really wrote this? calimary Apr 2020 #71
Didn't he also accuse the captain of "betrayal?" dawg day Apr 2020 #72
Psss psss psss psss psss! Meow! Meow! DinahMoeHum Apr 2020 #73
Then, reenstate Captain Crozier to his command. sarge43 Apr 2020 #74
*he* gets away with an apology, but crozier is still screwed? unblock Apr 2020 #76
unforgiveable. nt Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #77
This situation is a disaster and threatens good order and morale. Baked Potato Apr 2020 #79
Who wishes this The Wizard Apr 2020 #80
Sorry, Turbineguy Apr 2020 #82
That is a damn good apology. None of that "I'm, sorry iff anyone was offended bullshit." Just a Nitram Apr 2020 #85
You forgot the sarcasm smiley. ZZenith Apr 2020 #103
He should hold a major press conference The Wizard Apr 2020 #86
Keel haul the friggin' Acting Secretary... Prof. P.E. Name Apr 2020 #87
It's not an "unfortunate situation" - it's a fucking disgrace. scarletwoman Apr 2020 #88
Doesn't matter. He said it with intent. 2naSalit Apr 2020 #89
Instead of 'wanting' to apologize cate94 Apr 2020 #92
Yep. Iggo Apr 2020 #109
This is actually good Ohioboy Apr 2020 #96
Oh the irony. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #97
Go fuck yourself asshole. lpbk2713 Apr 2020 #98
... catbyte Apr 2020 #100
Trying to save his job. Hope it doesn't work. TeamPooka Apr 2020 #101
So, how is morale on the TR or any other military establishment now? S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #102
Right Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #104
Nice try Zambero Apr 2020 #105
Good apology except 7wo7rees Apr 2020 #106
This is not a real apology Gothmog Apr 2020 #107
This entire cabinet lacks honor, integrity and a moral compass CentralMass Apr 2020 #108
What an asshat. cwydro Apr 2020 #110
This asshole was offered to apologize Gothmog Apr 2020 #111

SharonAnn

(13,771 posts)
91. If Modly is so "naive or stupid" as to blieve this was appropriate in the first place, remove him
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:15 PM
Apr 2020

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
4. F..K that. He flew all the way to Guam to chastise the crew for supporting the Captain
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:21 PM
Apr 2020

and to engender favor with Trump--during a damned pandemic during which hundreds have become ill on that carrier. He didn't go to try to help the situation but to cover his own ass.

His apology comes only because he "naively and stupidly" did not think his own blustering unprofessional spew would become public.

He should be dismissed IMO.

drmeow

(5,012 posts)
6. Using my taxpayer dollars to do so
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:23 PM
Apr 2020

no less. I'll accept his apology when he reinstates Crozier and not a moment sooner.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
84. This.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:56 PM
Apr 2020

I want to know how he got there. Military plane? Private jet? That matters to me. His apology is hollow.

ancianita

(35,949 posts)
66. AND he had all those hours of travel to think about using good judgment. NOW he apologizes.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:26 PM
Apr 2020

Proof of his being disqualified to be any leader, nevermind "acting."

Yep. The doofus should be DISSED and dismissed.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
10. Naw, fuck that ... Modly most likely found out the Captain went up through CoC properly & his CoC...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:24 PM
Apr 2020

... didn't respond quick enough then the Captain had to go outside of CoC with SoS memo.

Nah, screw Modly ... it sounds like they know something larger is up.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
44. Thought the same.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:59 PM
Apr 2020

Can not imagine the uproar at the Navel Academy today after this FUBAR.

It is all about your Graduation ranking in all the services,especially in the Navy.

My guess is,Modly got reamed Royally by his Classmates which means his Career in the Navy will end shortly

elleng

(130,760 posts)
12. Thank him for the apology.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:26 PM
Apr 2020

He said what he said due to pressure from we know whom, and it's good that he found the guts to apologize.

We must recognize the difficulty so many have in dealing with idiot in chief, and recognize them when they apologize.

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
78. Sorry, he's not in the service
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:48 PM
Apr 2020

He can quit any time he wants to. If he got pressured by Moron, he could have said, "Nope" and quit. More importantly, he Did Not have to make an insane insulting rant at those sailors. In short, if he folds to pressure that easily, he should not have the job.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
40. DING DING DING!!!
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:58 PM
Apr 2020

We have a Winner!!

By tomorrow, he'll switch and begin justifying his statements.

He's only concerned about protecting himself, and his Cult Leader.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
99. Ironically, the recording proved Modly was guilty of what he was accusing Crozier of
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:02 AM
Apr 2020

Namely, being naïve enough to think his message wouldn't get to the media. To that I say

spike jones

(1,677 posts)
93. How to put toothpaste back in tube.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:31 PM
Apr 2020

Toothpaste tubes are made with plastic.

Unscrew the tube top cap and squeeze the paste out on a small plate and replace the top cap.

Cut the tube bottom off with scissors just above the end.

With a blunt knife, spread the two sides apart to open the tube at the bottom
.
Scrap the paste off the plate with the knife and scoop it into the tube from the bottom.

With needle nosed pliers squeeze the bottom ends back together and push the paste to the tube top.

With the pliers, hold the bottom together about 1/4” up from the tube end.

Use a lighter to melt the end plastic until it gets very soft (caution, do not touch the hot plastic).

Move the pliers down to squeeze the hot ends together and hold until cool. You may fold the ends a little to insure a tight seal.

The toothpaste is back in the tube and ready for use.

Caution, do not breath the hot plastic fumes, except maybe a little at the end.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
17. That doesn't work. If he's too dumb to know better
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:32 PM
Apr 2020

than to make a jackass of himself in front of the whole f'ing navy then he's in the wrong job. But then we knew that.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
22. Here's how this "apology" played out. King Tangeranus realized very quickly how
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:39 PM
Apr 2020

absolutely horrifically this was playing across the board, with people from all walks of life. He knew he couldn't get away with blaming it on the "fake news", "do-nothing Democrats", or any of his usual punching bags. He quickly formulated another cowardly exit strategy, just like he did in all of his failed marriages and businesses. The original Modly statement was completely his own handiwork, and now Modly is walking the plank like a good little soldier...I mean, sailor.

smb

(3,471 posts)
112. Yep
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:21 AM
Apr 2020

Moldy was naive and stupid enough to think Napoleon Boneyspurs would reward his ass-kissing by having his back when things got tough. Nope!

sarisataka

(18,500 posts)
24. I believe Moldy should get a second chance,
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:42 PM
Apr 2020

to the same extent he gave to Capt. Crozier.


If the SECNAV was not naive and stupid in delivering his inflammatory, morale busting speech then he must have done it intentionally

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
26. Publicly releasing this letter is more inappropriate than the Captain's letter, IMHO.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:49 PM
Apr 2020

This is fully a CYA letter, written under duress.

Fuck him and Trump.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
29. Good. He owed an apology ...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:53 PM
Apr 2020

... to Crozier, to the crew of the TR, and to the American people for undermining the integrity of our armed forces. Here, issuing an apology was the right thing to do.

-Laelth

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
35. I want to see the actual email cc list
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:56 PM
Apr 2020

I would bet good money that it was sent to the correct people and whoever leaked, it was in the proper chain of command,

crickets

(25,952 posts)
90. I've been wondering about that.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:02 PM
Apr 2020

Especially because of all the noise about not using a classified server. Regardless of whether it was classified, someone had to share it inappropriately for it to go anywhere. Capt Crozier didn't leak this to the press. Who did? Somebody decided to sacrifice him to shut him up and it backfired bigly.

Freethinker65

(10,001 posts)
36. Is this satire????Just obeying orders? Who the fuck wrote the speech???????
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:56 PM
Apr 2020

This is what Trump and his administration think of the military. It is theirs to play with and use against their personal (and not our Nation's) enemies. This once again is blatant ABUSE OF POWER.

Just like Trump abusing the DOJ to go after his personal enemies and FEMA, DHS to deny supplies and backup to States Trump has a personal beef with.

Impeach and jail the SOB and his kids and loyalist to him over country staff and legislators.

ashredux

(2,599 posts)
39. He is toast....Trump will throw him inder the bus quickly
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:57 PM
Apr 2020

Trump told him to fire the Captain and now that the backlash is so harsh Trump will “step in” and the SECNAV WILL RESIGN

Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
46. That would be humorous to witness. He didn't hesitate to launch an all-out attack on him.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:03 PM
Apr 2020




The more people who end up under the Trump bus, the better. Sooner or later Trump is going to run out of volunteers, hopefully.

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
47. That was the most unprofessional, condescending, rhetoric-filled speech I've heard.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:06 PM
Apr 2020

I hope he gets kicked out on his ass and can never find work again.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
49. I think he should go see Crozier in person and give him the apology "in
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:08 PM
Apr 2020

In close proximity


And then visit all of the other symptomatic sailors up close and personal.

Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
56. Now you're talkin, grantcart
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:14 PM
Apr 2020

Hell to the fkn yeah

On camera as well, because we all deserve at least that much


JHB

(37,157 posts)
50. Oh, look, a certain someone held a Trump to his head so he's folding.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:10 PM
Apr 2020

He might as well have gone with the "Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop..." excuse.

SoCal Roomba

(44 posts)
52. I'm sorry I flew all the way to Guam...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:13 PM
Apr 2020

And called your captain and all of you stupid on your 1MC.

Also I never did that.

Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
68. Good question, Marie Marie - but I think it was Modly the psycho trying to impress his psycho
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:29 PM
Apr 2020

boss, and yeah, OOPS, it didn’t fly ...and at the rally today, LOSER45 was sheepish and cowed, and promised to look into the situation and praised Capt Crozier mightily - even THAT nitwit could tell the optics here were hyper-toxic, and he pretty much ran Modly up the flagpole and let his ass flap around in the breeze

Lord have mercy, who are these fkn people

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
55. Sometimes apologies
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:14 PM
Apr 2020

Sometimes apologies aren’t worth a god damned thing.

This is one of those times. Fuck him. You want to apologize? Apologize individually to everyone of those sailors and take whatever they give back to you after you disrespected their Cap.

Fuck him.

Also I am ex-Navy.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
57. How passive-aggressive of him.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:15 PM
Apr 2020

Saying something horrible then offering a half-assed, disingenuous apology for it doesn't cut it. He should resign.

keithbvadu2

(36,671 posts)
61. Mission accomplished: they got the message out to their base....
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:23 PM
Apr 2020

Mission accomplished: they got the message out to their base....

Cokie's Law - about politics and media coverage...

Cokie's Law states that it does not matter if it is true or not. It's out there.

Cokie Roberts journalist, author, reporter

Then they can apologize in a much smaller forum. (If they do)

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
64. THat's not much of an apology...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:24 PM
Apr 2020

more like a CYA bucket of excuses after going all the way to Guam to berate the crew for supporting their Captain. A good portion of his ass-chewing revolved around how much attention the letter got in DC.

Fuck him. This 'apology' is completely hollow without an accompanying resignation. Being in charge of the Navy is a disgrace to that fine institution. (Even as a Zoomie, I think that the Squids are OK.)

Who would have thought that the Secretary of the Navy would be both naive AND stupid? Instead of the US Navy, the closest this turd should have come to anything resembling a ship is in his own bathtub.

Too bad one must be separated from the military for a minimum of 5 years before being appointed as Secretary of the Navy; President Biden can't appoint Brett Crozier (at least, in his first term), but should definitely consider placing the good Captain in a high-level government position befitting his stature. He had already risen to a level seen by very few - there are 11 nuclear-powered in the US arsenal, and their command staff is very carefully chosen from among the elite best-of-the-best that the Navy has.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
65. I Believe His First Statement
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:25 PM
Apr 2020

Was a trial balloon for a Courts Martial that Trump was wanting. When it backfired badly out comes this new statement about how his words "may have" caused pain. They were intended to cause pain and sully the reputation. Trump was responsible for both statements. Now everyone pretends it never happened. Besides, if the apology was sincere it would have been handled in a personal manner - not some Tweet.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
71. How do we know he really wrote this?
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:35 PM
Apr 2020

Did he? Does he fully agree with it?

Will he come out and make a public statement toward that end?

He needs to get Crozier reinstated. AS WELL AS issue a public apology. And then resign. And disappear. Before somebody figures out how to take him to court and sue his ass off for this.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
72. Didn't he also accuse the captain of "betrayal?"
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:38 PM
Apr 2020

Modly did this, no doubt, to get on Trump's good side so he could be appointed actual secretary. Then Trump of course drops the bomb on him. Hee hee. Nothing like seeing Trump bootlickers get kicked in the face.

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
73. Psss psss psss psss psss! Meow! Meow!
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:38 PM
Apr 2020

And remember, Modly was the schmuck who replaced Richard Spencer, who resigned his office over the issue of Navy SEAL Ed Gallagher, who had been charged with war crimes.

An absolute abortion. Total scum.




#newrostrong

unblock

(52,126 posts)
76. *he* gets away with an apology, but crozier is still screwed?
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:46 PM
Apr 2020

Between firing a beloved captain for looking after his sailors *and* then making a speech that oh by the way the media picked up on and it caused controversy in washington, *exactly* what he accused crozier of, what he did was way worse.

Nitram

(22,768 posts)
85. That is a damn good apology. None of that "I'm, sorry iff anyone was offended bullshit." Just a
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:58 PM
Apr 2020

straight up apology with concrete points about which he is apologizing.

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
103. You forgot the sarcasm smiley.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:21 AM
Apr 2020

Nobody is dumb enough or naive enough to believe this apology is sincere.

Nobody.

Prof. P.E. Name

(50 posts)
87. Keel haul the friggin' Acting Secretary...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

....the beam of the TR......and if he should make it out the other side, then and only then, would I consider an apology.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
88. It's not an "unfortunate situation" - it's a fucking disgrace.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

Captain Crozier should have never been fired in the first place.

And Modley is a fucking coward for having done it.

2naSalit

(86,336 posts)
89. Doesn't matter. He said it with intent.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

And the entirety of the Navy knows it. His best bet is to resign and go crawl back under his slime mat.

Ohioboy

(3,239 posts)
96. This is actually good
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 11:40 PM
Apr 2020

I think he is still a scumbag, but at least it means he knows he caught and exposed as a scumbag.

lpbk2713

(42,741 posts)
98. Go fuck yourself asshole.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:00 AM
Apr 2020


You meant every word of what you said. It's too late for a feeble attempt at damage control.

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
102. So, how is morale on the TR or any other military establishment now?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:16 AM
Apr 2020

How many service members are regretting being in the Military with the orange turd in charge?

How will this affect recruiting in our all-volunteer services?

Thanks once again to the orange turd for helping Putin.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
106. Good apology except
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:24 AM
Apr 2020

He forgot:
I am sorry.
I am a dickhead.
I will relieve myself.
Carry on.
Good luck to the new and old captains.

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