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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:45 AM Apr 2020

Plasma treatment being tested in New York may be coronavirus 'game changer'

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/plasma-treatment-being-tested-new-york-may-be-coronavirus-gamechanger-n1178436|

In the past few days, the Mount Sinai Hospital System has injected more than 20 very sick coronavirus patients with a "convalescent serum" based on the blood plasma of people who have recovered from the disease.

As first reported in a series of stories by NBCNews.com, Dr. Arturo Casadevall of the Bloomberg School of Public Health at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore has spearheaded a nationwide effort to develop a plasma treatment.

Dr. Jeffrey Jhang, medical director of clinical laboratories and transfusion services for the Mount Sinai Health System, said: "We have so many patients who are sick. We are crossing our fingers that this will be a game changer and really accelerate the recovery of these patients."

The National COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma Project is a consortium of more than 40 of the nation's top health institutions across 22 states looking to collect plasma from recovered COVID-19 patients to assist in treating those currently ill with the disease or to perhaps prevent others, like front-line medical workers, from getting the virus at all.

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Plasma treatment being tested in New York may be coronavirus 'game changer' (Original Post) SheltieLover Apr 2020 OP
Good MFM008 Apr 2020 #1
What you said 👆 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #2
I keep hearing this is having good results. Squinch Apr 2020 #3
I agree duforsure Apr 2020 #4
Mass testing will play a major role if it happens. Girard442 Apr 2020 #8
TY, Squinch SheltieLover Apr 2020 #17
Good Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #5
That would be great. LisaM Apr 2020 #6
Absolutely! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #18
Right now there is a guy @ Harvard who is trying to make these antibodies... the stuff in serum... Botany Apr 2020 #7
Excellent! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #19
Doing very good work on a vaccine @ Pitt Botany Apr 2020 #20
Yaaaay! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #21
I remember Fauci trying to explain to Trump that even if we had a vaccine now it would ... Botany Apr 2020 #22
I don't watch his pressers SheltieLover Apr 2020 #24
I try not to watch him but I did catch about 15 minutes and it was surreal Botany Apr 2020 #25
Wow SheltieLover Apr 2020 #26
Chris Cuomo.... quickesst Apr 2020 #9
Just like in OUTBREAK Danascot Apr 2020 #10
Reporters should repeat this new treatment and the drug Japan has discovered works duforsure Apr 2020 #11
Doing so would be just as irresponsible as tRump pushing his treatment. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #12
I think this is the Japanese drug favipiravir that was being touted neohippie Apr 2020 #15
I'm not allowed to give blood Sophiegirl Apr 2020 #13
I was banned from donating in 2001, after certain antibodies were detected that are bullwinkle428 Apr 2020 #23
Montefiore started this program last week in New Rochelle, NY. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2020 #14
Encouraging colsohlibgal Apr 2020 #16
No side effects like we see with Hydrochloroquine, I presume? Roland99 Apr 2020 #27
I haven't seen any reported personally SheltieLover Apr 2020 #28
Made me smile after a shitty day 🙏🏽🙏🏽 nt live love laugh Apr 2020 #29

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
1. Good
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:52 AM
Apr 2020

That crap blotus is pushing needs to go away just to screw up all the republican ghouls waiting to profit off it.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. What you said 👆
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:56 AM
Apr 2020

Absolutely. He should be arrested for practicing medicine without a license! 🤬

It doesn't even make sense, as it is a really cheap drug.

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
3. I keep hearing this is having good results.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:59 AM
Apr 2020

I hope we get an antibody test soon so people can know if they've had it and can donate if this treatment pans out.

ETA Sheltie, you are posting really great information on this. Thank you

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
4. I agree
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:13 AM
Apr 2020

Mass testing everyone will get the economy back the safest , and the most economical way, and the quickest. So expect trump to do the opposite, try forcing people back while its still very , very unsafe without it. He's doing things endangering more Americans by refusals to help other Americans expose his true intentions. This economy is set to collapse a lot more very soon from trump and the GOP's failed under funded stimulus they are dragging their feet on intentionally now.

Girard442

(6,063 posts)
8. Mass testing will play a major role if it happens.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:39 AM
Apr 2020

Time for the we in the blue states states to proceed on testing and other avenues on our own and if any Fed tries to interfere, lock them up.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
17. TY, Squinch
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:09 AM
Apr 2020

I'm trying to find useful info for the community here. I appreciate you letting me know it is helpful.

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
6. That would be great.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:25 AM
Apr 2020

One thing that's clear to me from all this is that we should be paying to educate people who want to go into (or teach) the health sciences.

Botany

(70,442 posts)
7. Right now there is a guy @ Harvard who is trying to make these antibodies... the stuff in serum...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:34 AM
Apr 2020

in his lab artificially. This is good news as per a treatment but we also need a vaccine too.


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Some Hope: How blood from coronavirus survivors might save lives

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00895-8

How blood from coronavirus survivors might save lives

New York City researchers hope antibody-rich plasma can keep people out of intensive care.

Hospitals in New York City are gearing up to use the blood of people who have recovered from COVID-19 as a possible antidote for the disease. Researchers hope that the century-old approach of infusing patients with the antibody-laden blood of those who have survived an infection will help the metropolis — now the US epicentre of the outbreak — to avoid the fate of Italy, where intensive-care units (ICUs) are so crowded that doctors have turned away patients who need ventilators to breathe.

The efforts follow studies in China that attempted the measure with plasma — the fraction of blood that contains antibodies, but not red blood cells — from people who had recovered from COVID-19. But these studies have reported only preliminary results so far. The convalescent-plasma approach has also seen modest success during past severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Ebola outbreaks — but US researchers are hoping to increase the value of the treatment by selecting donor blood that is packed with antibodies and giving it to the patients who are most likely to benefit.

A key advantage to convalescent plasma is that it’s available immediately, whereas drugs and vaccines take months or years to develop. Infusing blood in this way seems to be relatively safe, provided that it is screened for viruses and other infectious agents. Scientists who have led the charge to use plasma want to deploy it now as a stopgap measure, to keep serious infections at bay and hospitals afloat as a tsunami of cases comes crashing their way.

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Arturo Casadevall, an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland, has been fighting to use blood as a COVID-19 treatment since late January, as the disease spread to other countries and no surefire therapy was in sight. Scientists refer to this measure as ‘passive antibody therapy’ because a person receives external antibodies, rather than generating an immune response themselves, as they would following a vaccination.

Botany

(70,442 posts)
22. I remember Fauci trying to explain to Trump that even if we had a vaccine now it would ...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:31 AM
Apr 2020

... be some time before it could be brought out and used on the public.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
24. I don't watch his pressers
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:44 AM
Apr 2020

I just cannot stomach him. I feel badly for Dr. Fauci. Explain something to dump? No point as imo, he is uneducable.🤮

PS - Wasn't it wonderful having an intellectual as pres for 8 years?

Botany

(70,442 posts)
25. I try not to watch him but I did catch about 15 minutes and it was surreal
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:05 AM
Apr 2020

I swear to God if the Son of Bitch had said, "Hydroxycholoquine just 29.95 and if you act
before midnight tonight you will get a 2nd bottle for free ... shipping and handling extra."

He really did say about some like, "She is an African American Woman burt she can still
speak." And then some garbage about this woman sending her husband out at 10 PM
to buy Trump's snake oil and by the morning she was cured of the virus.

Fauci was one of the persons who co-discovered the retro virus that caused HIV/AIDs so
must be dying inside to listen to Dr. Trump's gibberish.

Hell, Trump and Fox are trying to push "it is time to open things back up" meme again.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
26. Wow
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:40 AM
Apr 2020

It does sound like an infomercial, and for a potentially deadly drug! 😳🤮

I honestly don't know how you fine folks can stand to watch him or listen to his horrid voice. I've not done so since he stalked our legitimate president around the debate stage. I appreciate you & everyone sharing the lies that he spews so that we know what he is up to.

As for trying to "reopen" the country, yes indeed they are. The CDC is formulating a plan to send those who were exposed to covid back to work if they are asymptomatic, with 2 temp checks per day. 🤬

https://www.localmemphis.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/cdc-looks-at-changing-guidelines-to-get-asymptomatic-people-back-to-work/522-2b66cedc-7461-4da4-b26b-f95eb32e6519

Unreal greed!

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
9. Chris Cuomo....
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:40 AM
Apr 2020

.... which we all know is in quarantine with the virus stated last night that his life goal now is to survive, and be able to contribute antibodies to the fight against the Coronavirus. Good on you Chris. Hang in there, and get well soon.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
11. Reporters should repeat this new treatment and the drug Japan has discovered works
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:05 AM
Apr 2020

Showing no dangerous side effects after his did, some deadly side effects so much that dr's are saying no to it already , including one country that has shutdown their trial for it. Reporters need to ask him if he owns stock in any companies involved with his drug he's pushing , over and over again. Ask him who told him this was a safe drug to use.Ask him if he knew about some people dying from using it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,939 posts)
12. Doing so would be just as irresponsible as tRump pushing his treatment.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:16 AM
Apr 2020

And you haven't provided any links, let along scientific/medical links.

If you look at the "studies" that people like tRump are relying on to push hydroxychloroquin, you would see how flawed and sketchy they are.

At this point I am equally skeptical of some vaguely stated "drug Japan has discovered works".

Come off it.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
15. I think this is the Japanese drug favipiravir that was being touted
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:44 AM
Apr 2020

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china


Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China
Shares in Fujifilm Toyama Chemical, which developed favipiravir, surged after praise by Chinese official following clinical trials

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
13. I'm not allowed to give blood
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:18 AM
Apr 2020

I lived in Germany in the late 80s. Because of the Mad Cow disease that was going around Europe, I am blocked from giving blood. I image it is the same for plasma.

You would think they would have a screening process to detect any Mad Cow bad actor in my blood. Even after all these years, I am still barred from donating.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
23. I was banned from donating in 2001, after certain antibodies were detected that are
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:38 AM
Apr 2020

related to Hepatitis B. I've never had any issues with Hep. B, but I had received a series of 3 vaccine shots for it, maybe 3-4 years earlier. Apparently, this is an issue that surfaces in the blood of some who've been through that vaccination process. It sucks, as I feel that my overall strong state of health could really benefit those in need, but I don't make the rules.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
16. Encouraging
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:57 AM
Apr 2020

The sooner an effective treatment and then as effective vaccine the better.

If only we had a safe, smart, non greedy President.

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