Would you rather have postal service or cruise ships. One is getting bailed out

[mahatmakanejeeves]

Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted

Would you rather have postal service or cruise ships. One is getting bailed out

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[hlthe2b]

1. Biden needs to speak out on this. It is not getting enough attention!

[Hortensis]

20. It's getting plenty from congressional Democrats, who've

been successfully fighting off Republican attempts to destroy the USPS for decades now.

[hlthe2b]

21. Yes. I am aware of that, but Biden has the counter bully pulpit right now.

[SheltieLover]

30. This!👆

Fking media needs to do its goddamned job!

[dchill]

39. Well, yeah.

But they're busy greasing the squeaky wheel.

[FBaggins]

2. Which one is getting bailed out?

Both reportedly missed any help so far.

[IronLionZion]

15. If you have pity for cruise lines

Cruise Lines Were Shut Out of the Stimulus. Here’s Why.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/travel/cruises-coronavirus-stimulus.html

Freepers are welcome to book cruises now to help that industry if they want. But there are reasons why they shouldn't get taxpayer bailouts.

[FBaggins]

29. Why would I have pity for them?

I feel for the staff who were already financially strapped in many cases, but I'm not sure how you read "pity" in a comment that merely pointed out that the implication in the OP was incorrect.

Freepers are welcome to book cruises now to help that industry if they want.

I'm happy to book cruises (at significant discount) to take advantage of their position once things open back up... but I'll be tipping in cash.

[IronLionZion]

31. I'd prefer to give cash bailouts directly to their unpaid workers

Good luck with the discounted cruises. It's far too risky for me.

[spanone]

3. Destroying the Postal system has been a republican wet dream for years

[Captain Stern]

4. If I had to pick just one, I'd rather have the postal service.

But, let's cut to the chase....which one is being bailed out? Neither.

The Cruise companies aren't getting bailed out.

There are lots of good reasons to hate them, but they're not getting a handout from us.

[Oppaloopa]

36. Me too and I love to cruise. Cruise lines have all gotten away with way to much for years.

[Laelth]

5. The USPS is constitutionally mandated.

It’s also the best postal service in the world.

It should not be run as a “for profit” enterprise. The Army, for example, is also constitutionally mandated, but nobody expects the Army to turn a profit. Our government MUST, if it wishes to fulfill its constitutional mandate, fully fund the USPS and insure its continued operation.

-Laelth

[Oppaloopa]

38. Yes they are good american jobs Their employees pay taxes.

[Midnight Writer]

52. They are also Union jobs, and that is why Republicans hate them.

Also, the Postal Service actually pays into the Federal coffers.

Remember Trump's Tips for dealing with the coronavirus. The Postal Service delivered that free of charge. Congress is supposed to reimburse USPS for Franked mail, but they don't.

[joost5]

45. Yes, but Repubs want to make profits off the military too

They privatize as much as possible. They love taking profits from the public, and love offloading risks and loss to public as well.

They'd love to destroy every public institution and replace it with a for-profit corporation. That's their goal.

[Sherman A1]

6. Easy choice there

[handmade34]

7. I stand with the USPS!

[smirkymonkey]

56. So do I!

To hell with the cruise ships. They are not an essential service.

[TheBlackAdder]

8. That means FedEx and UPS can't keep leeching off of their Final Segment Delivery Services!

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It will crush those companies as well.

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[AllaN01Bear]

9. this is so that the mail in voters cant vote .

[Pillow talk]

12. agree

[MontanaMama]

32. 100% this.

The MF floated this very balloon at one of his shit show pressers this week. Get ready...this is how they plan to “win” in November.

[kentuck]

10. The one that refuses to pay taxes...

...and registers under foreign flags?

[aggiesal]

11. Most cruise ships DON'T fly the American Flag ...

Why are we giving them money?
Since they don’t fly our flag they don’t pay U.S. taxes.

Have their flagship country bail them out!

[Liberal In Texas]

13. Because they don't want to have to abide by US regulations

and taxes.

NO BAILOUT!

The USPS is essential, especially right now.

[IronLionZion]

14. We can't vote by mail without a postal service

but it would also screw hard the rural areas that won't get service from private companies.

[sarge43]

19. It also mean that people who get their meds by USPS mail won't.

Well, fuck us.

[IronLionZion]

24. If you're near a city, there are private delivery services

if you're in Trump country, then you're scewed

[sarge43]

27. If USPS crashes, doesn't matter where we are.

I'd bet the next retirement check that pharms and hospitals get their meds via postal service. If not all, then many.

I know many like dumping on snail mail, but for a lot of people it's a life line.

[Mr. Sparkle]

16. They should curtail their services in the red states. Its probably the most expensive

to operate, given the distance and if their representatives don't want to help, they should pay the price

[2naSalit]

33. Or maybe curtail services in blue states since you all

can walk to the PO or drive there for cheaper and you're so much closer together, why would YOU need the postal service?

What you are saying is that high population states good, rural states bad.

So much for equality, huh?

[Mr. Sparkle]

41. I want red state residents to realize its the gop responsible for the current state of the postal

service and to kick the bums out. I feel for democrats in red states but you have the wrost representatives in government.

[2naSalit]

42. Ever wonder why that is?

[Trueblue Texan]

17. If he can collapse the Postal Service...

...no mail-in ballots....ta-daaaa!

[yaesu]

18. The poison pill legislation that the repukes slipped in years ago to keep USPS from converting

their fleet to electric vehicles has been devastating on their bottom line. No other company in the world must pay forward on 99 years of retirement health insurance. They need this reversed + a big cash infusion or they& one of the biggest unions in the country will be history in a few month.

[DFW]

22. Trump personally ordered the demise of the Postal Service?

Is that the only way he can get served a subpoena these days, or is it just that he doesn't want Democrats to vote at all, and he no longer cares who knows it?

[gab13by13]

23. Democrats had legislation in the last bail out bill

for the Post Office, Trump personally intervened to get the money removed. The end of the Post Office will be the end of mail in voting.

The Post Office doesn't even need money, just repeal the law that it has to pre-fund benefits for workers 75 years in advance. It has a lot of money just sitting there not touchable.

[2naSalit]

34. +1

A policy designed to kill the USPS.

[uponit7771]

25. K&R, Wisconsin was a trial run

[get the red out]

26. Post Office

But we have to realize the Post Office is essential for “vote by mail”, cruise ships just register in other countries to avoid paying taxes.

[bucolic_frolic]

28. USPS Privatization monetizes cronies and whacks Amazon

No-brainer. Postal Regulatory Commission is controlled by Republicans, and dominated by Trump appointees.

[gab13by13]

35. Trump lied when he said that the Post Office loses money

shipping for Amazon, it makes money.

[Fiendish Thingy]

37. I thought cruise lines were specifically excluded from the relief package passed by Congress? Nt

[usaf-vet]

40. Again let's look at the complete transaction. And I mean complete transaction.

Give money to the post office and there is no way a percentage of the money can be sent to the politicians, YES Trump, as a kickback.

I don't believe the post office has an arm of that agency that can make large donations to political figures. So there is no advantage for the Trumps in the world to enrich themselves by saving the USPS.

Give money to a corporation (Cruise Line) and they can legally as a "person" (Citizen United) kickback to the politician And YES I still mean Trump. In fact, I would bet that the percentages are negotiated before and money goes to the "corporate person".

At least that is the way I see all of the Trump decisions. WHAT FIRST BENEFITS HIM is the deciding factor. Never what is good for the country.

[c-rational]

43. This is no small thing. The USPS is one of the great equalizers of our country and it should be

be brought back to its former strength with being allowed to make small loans etc. The rules leading to its economic demise were put in place by fiendish rethugs claiming to care about budgets and deficits. There is a long list of real problems that will need correcting. November cannot get here fast enough.

[gordianot]

44. Who can afford cruise ships and high end golf courses?

How about a hefty Federal Luxury Tax on both.

[Peacetrain]

46. He is completely destroying our country!!!

[Talitha]

47. Can't we just pick up and drop off the vote at our local Clerk's office?

[Initech]

48. Postal service is essential, cruise ships are not.

The postal service is even more essential in the age of the Great Quarantine. Let the cruise industry die until they get serious about health care and the overall health of their passengers.

[demmiblue]

49. K&R

Link to tweet

[LakeArenal]

50. Isn't it weird that money for Norte Dame swept in within a week

But the postal system is non-essential to American billionaires en masse.

[customerserviceguy]

51. How about

the option of bailing out neither one? Of course, I think the cruise ship industry is finally getting what it deserves, and years ago, I stopped feeling sorry for anyone who got on a bad Carnival cruise.

But, some 75% of what the USPS does is deliver trash around the country, using fossil fueled vehicles to spread junk mail garbage all over. Maybe raising postage rates is what needs to be done. It costs about fifty percent more to mail a letter in Canada than it does in the US. Maybe we should stop giving preferential mailing rates to overseas shippers, like China, who still uses the "poor little me" status it had in 1969.

The future is online communications. Maybe a buck a stamp will get more people into modern times. And it's time that the cost of sending parcels (yes, even mail order drugs) reflect what it actually costs to bring them to people's doorsteps. My lady and I use mail order drug delivery, perhaps instead of several packages over the course of a quarter, we can get all of our prescriptions delivered once every three months, with that 90 day supply.

There are all kinds of ways to make mailing more efficient, when it absolutely needs to be done.

[Blue Owl]

53. How is this even a goddamn choice?

Oh yeah, because of the G.O.P...

[questionseverything]

54. we need the post office

and the constitution mandates it

fund the post office pls

[Cha]

55. What the hell is everyone going to Do without a POST OFFICE?!