Pretty stunning visual here.--US #coronavirus cases compared to other countries...........

[riversedge]

Ian Sams
@IanSams
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Pretty stunning visual here.

Link to tweet

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[SouthernCal_Dem]

1. The consequences of having a failed frozen steak salesman as your president. nt

[Roy Rolling]

37. They wanted a businessman...

They didn’t care if he was terrible at it.

[3catwoman3]

2. We're number 1! We're number 1!

WE’RE NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frazzled]

3. Well we have a much larger population that those countries (aside from China)

Compare our 331 million people to Spain's 47 million, Italy's 60 million, or South Korea's 51 million. We have 5 to 6 times as many people (but not yet 5 to 6 times as many cases).

China is the exception, of course, but they were literally locking people in, and had more testing as well. So yeah, it's a failure of leadership here, but it's also a question of having a shit-ton of people. Charts like this need context.

[GoCubsGo]

5. Thank you! Yes, it's misleading.

It should be "per capita." Our curve is probably like that of Spain and Italy. The situation is horrendous enough as it is without distorting it like this.

Also, China's numbers should not be trusted. According to the commentary of people who have had a lot of experience in China and dealing with the government there, the numbers they give are most likely being grossly underreported.

[Scarsdale]

23. Of course,

OUR government is open and honest at all times, right?? IF we are as safe as they say, why is anyone who gets close to Orange Turd and Little Mikey being tested?

[DallasNE]

24. Yes, Adjust For Population

But also adjust for timeline. Europe is a full 2 weeks ahead of the US on start date so the US today should be compared to Europe two weeks ago. Both are needed to normalize the data.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. Yes. Better comparisons are log-scale charts from 100 or 30-cases-day. Compare Canada

Canada got its first case 3 days after US. Countries are similar but different in some important ways.

[Chemisse]

17. I agree. Per capita would be helpful if we really want to compare. n/t

[totodeinhere]

21. Correct. On a per capita basis we have fewer cases than several other countries. n/t

[DENVERPOPS]

30. It's a moot point anyway.........

There are sooo many countries not reporting any information, take Russia for example........

This includes the U.S. to some extent......Look no further than NYCity which WAS NOT including Deaths At Home, which are skyrocketing. Also no reporting of many states not reporting Deaths in Retirement communities and other old age homes.

And you of course can't have reliable information for comparison if we don't have testing information.
No Tests = no accounting of infected or deaths........

Interesting fact: Did you know that in many many many counties around the nation, the medical examiner doesn't even have to have a Medical Degree.......Especially rural counties...........

WASF

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. In the end, the surplus of deaths will tell the tale. Covid-19 leading cause of death See Lombardy.

Now, in the USA, Covid-19 is the leading cause of daily death.

In some towns in Lombardy, obituaries were running 10 times normal rate.

That can't be swept under the carpet.

[DENVERPOPS]

42. Thanks BDLP

checked out Lombardy.....interesting stuff......

[efhmc]

32. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

That is a stat per million included in the chart. BTW, it has double for US in about one week.

[RobinA]

4. Not Stunning At All

Rates, people. Raw numbers mean nothing for comparison purposes. Last time I looked, our rates were pretty damn good in comparison.

[customerserviceguy]

6. I'd be curious

to see a chart that was based on the number of cases per thousand people. The United States is the third most populous nation in the world. Yes, China is on that chart, too, but they used draconian measures to clamp down on C-19, once they could no longer hide the disease.

Clearly, our lag in having testing ready (some would fairly argue that we still don't have enough being done) has caused the steep slope in the numbers represented by the red line. I'd also be curious to see a chart based on deaths per thousand people with the other countries on that chart.

[live love laugh]

7. And they keep saying we're leveling off 🙄

[DallasNE]

28. Context Needed

In NYC we look to be leveling off. That can't be said yet of places like Chicago, New Orleans and Philadelphia.

[DENVERPOPS]

43. Many scientists eyes are focused on

southern Florida in addition to the ones you mentioned, and don't forget to mention Michigan.

Nationally I don't think this is beginning to quiet down, not in a long shot........

I also think that as it takes hold in red states, Trump will miraculously find ton's of supplies to ship them.....

[Captain Stern]

36. 'They' are only saying that..

..because it's true.

[HarlanPepper]

8. We're going to have the most cases and deaths in all likelihood

That will be a useful tool for messaging when the campaign starts in earnest, unfortunate as it is.

[dalton99a]

9. What happens when a sadistic criminal becomes the most powerful man in the world

[DENVERPOPS]

44. Look no further than

German history..............

[forthemiddle]

10. Seriously?

Who exactly is this graph meant to impress?

[enid602]

11. careful when comparing

The US figures seem huge if you compare them with Vermont, as well. If you add the European countries together (with an aggregate population not much greater than that of the US), they total over 800K at a glance. And the UK, which was rather late in locking down and is way behind the US in testing, now has half of the US deaths, and is not expected to peak for a couple of months. Yet their population is only one fifth that of the US.

And I'm not sure I'd put much stock in the Chinese figures.

[USALiberal]

12. Misleading, self delete. nt

[killaphill]

13. Actually, in deaths per capita, the US is doing quite well

If you can "do quite well" in a pandemic. On a pure death per capita basis, US deaths are far below the vast majority of Western Europe, with the exception of Germany.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[DENVERPOPS]

45. Just hold on

it ain't near being over yet........

but I agree the info is misleading since it isn't per capita........Statistics can be made to say anything anyone wants to say......

[ProfessorGAC]

14. What's Stunning Is His Misinterpretation

If he believes Iran & China are reporting accurately, country wide, he's naive.
And, the other three countries have under half the US population combined. (158 vs 330 million)
Chart is meaningless.

[Jon Fogerty]

15. Where in this chart...

...are those "shit-hole countries", bet 45 won't mind living there now if the curve keeps heading up.

[mr_lebowski]

16. The chart is not entirely meaningless as some are saying ...

It may not be a good comparison tool but if you're one of the 430,000 people who's sick, the rate per 1000 people doesn't mean SFA to YOU.

The fact that we have 430K infected people is still pretty fcking meaningful.

As is the slope of our line (though it can't be properly compared to the others, it's still hella steep).

Just sayin'

[totodeinhere]

22. 430,000 infections, but not that many illnesses. Some people who are infected do not get sick.

And yes, even if it's one sick person that's one too many, but the point remains that on a per capita basis the US has less infections that several other countries.

[mr_lebowski]

29. Yah, I definitely get the point some are making ... per capita is the proper number

to use for a comparison of this sort. Obvs.

And I'm quite sure everyone understands not everyone who tests positive gets sick, in the USA, nor in any other country.

But just because it's not a proper comparison doesn't, in my esteem, make it 'meaningless'.

We do still have the most cases in the world.

[totodeinhere]

34. No, I agree. That's way too many infections. And if the Trump administration had taken this

seriously at the same time that Korea did we would probably have less infections. The fact that our per capital rate is lower than a few other places is small comfort.

[DENVERPOPS]

46. It is probably lower

because it ain't anywhere near being over. World wide or right here in our country.......

[IronLionZion]

26. Our geographic disbursement of those cases is also a problem

since China could contain it in Wuhan. For us, it's all over our country and much harder to contain the spread.

[dreamland]

18. Wall Street wanted their charts to be in record highs

The business types cheered when P-face was elected. Now, they finally got what they wanted - record high charts.

Ask not the devil for what you want, you'll get it but not the way you think.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

19. It would be more stunning if we had the real numbers.

The only reason testing isn't being done on every street corner is because the Grotesque Orange Pustule wants the numbers lower than reality.

South Korea found their first case on the same day the U.S. found its first case.

[totodeinhere]

20. The graph shows gross numbers, not infections on a per capita basis.

The US has about a .1 percent infection rate whereas Spain has a .3% infection rate, about three times as much. (Assuming of course that we can trust the accuracy of those figures.)

[Ford_Prefect]

25. Best estimate I've heard so far is that the official rate is at best 2/3 of real numbers, and

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probably no better than 1/3 given how late and inconsistent testing has been.

Add to that: few if any deaths not already identified as COVID-19 are tested post-mortem. So that's another degree of missing data. Furthermore the seeming variability in symptomalogy of those who aren't showing the most common symptoms, or those who are mobile and yet to succumb make it nearly impossible to project how far the infection has actually spread in this first wave.

[totodeinhere]

27. That probably applies to other countries as well.

https://www.ibtimes.com/italy-coronavirus-death-toll-higher-reported-officials-are-undercounting-analysis-2951335

[moonseller66]

31. 2 wars - 2 Presidential Liars

[LiberalLovinLug]

41. Of course if you count all the brown people from another country that died too in Bush's war

500,000+ innocent civilians by some estimates. Then Trump has a ways to go.

His sabre rattling against Iran now though could still put him over the top eventually.

[Danascot]

33. This chart has total cases, deaths and recovered but also cases, deaths and tests per 1M

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[Hulk]

35. And CNN carries this draft dodging coward and con artist AGAIN...

This just blows me away. NBC, CBS, CNN and of course, Putin TV carry this worthless wind bag live AGAIN.

I am so disgusted with the major network whores. ANYTHING for ratings....nothing for ethics any longer. We are fook'd as a nation with the enabling media we have.

[Initech]

47. They're only carrying them because Trump threatened them.

He is such a petty, narcissistic piece of shit.

[moonseller66]

38. At the rate Trump is killing Americans...

by September he will be reponsible for more American deaths than Vietnam, Iraq I and II and Afghanistan Combined.