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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:04 PM Apr 2020

'This is a bad idea... really bad': Bloomberg data strategy firm makes bid to run Biden campaign

[link:https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/this-is-a-bad-idea-really-bad-bloomberg-data-strategy-firm-makes-bid-to-run-biden-campaign/|

Not no, but HELL NO!


‘This is a bad idea… really bad’: Bloomberg data strategy firm makes bid to run Biden campaign
Published 12 mins ago on April 10, 2020By Common Dreams



Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was among the first critics to raise alarm Friday afternoon after The Intercept reported that a digital strategy firm owned by billionaire Mike Bloomberg “is in serious talks” to win a contract to take over work on Joe Biden’s general election campaign against President Donald Trump.

“Along with Biden’s campaign,” journalist Ryan Grim, who broke the story, reported, the firm—called Hawkfish and which ran Bloomberg’s primary campaign—is now “courting a wide swath of other progressive and Democratic organizations, opening up the possibility of Bloomberg gaining significant control over the party’s technology and data infrastructure."

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'This is a bad idea... really bad': Bloomberg data strategy firm makes bid to run Biden campaign (Original Post) SheltieLover Apr 2020 OP
Bloombeg's Media Operation Was Top-Notch, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #1
I agree mcar Apr 2020 #2
I concur SheltieLover Apr 2020 #8
+1 Flaleftist Apr 2020 #22
I agree. They did some hard hitting stuff against Trump. Blue_true Apr 2020 #29
Smacks Of Purity Testing ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #3
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #35
I'm okay with this kurtcagle Apr 2020 #4
I thought this was a good thing? LaurenOlimina Apr 2020 #5
Didn't he gave a giant, high tech op? JDC Apr 2020 #6
Why is it a bad idea? RandySF Apr 2020 #7
its the bernie crowd unhappy - aoc, common dreams nt msongs Apr 2020 #9
And SheltieLover Apr 2020 #10
Where does it say he is not funding this?! He promised to spend a billion bucks of his own money.... Hekate Apr 2020 #17
He may run in the operation in the red. I believe he sincerely wants Trump defeated. Flaleftist Apr 2020 #23
He could be implicitly funding it by offering the services at a really low bid. Blue_true Apr 2020 #30
What is the frickin problem? texasfiddler Apr 2020 #11
His firm was PHENOMENAL--I was pretty pumped about Bloomberg solely on the basis of their work renate Apr 2020 #12
Have to believe that AOC knows a smidge more about the insides of campaign machinery than I do. Doremus Apr 2020 #13
Yes! Absolutely! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #15
Bloomberg is on our side & is willing to spend money to get Trump out for the good of the country... Hekate Apr 2020 #14
This is a GREAT idea! Squinch Apr 2020 #16
David Plouffe and who ever he can hire need to be the spear tirebiter Apr 2020 #18
Doesn't bother me a bit. Bloomberg has shown his commitment to stomping trump. Hoyt Apr 2020 #19
Why do some Democrats want to fight texasfiddler Apr 2020 #20
And the threats have already begun... lapucelle Apr 2020 #21
This Person Is A Joke, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #32
Why is 0casio Cotez linking to Ryan Grim? lapucelle Apr 2020 #24
Good question! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #26
This Is Simply Stupid, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #33
I don't find The Intercept credible. BlueLucy Apr 2020 #25
some things never change... stillcool Apr 2020 #27
Facebook, Twitter, Google.... Nothing is ever FREE.... Nothing is ever FREE. TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 #28
I don't a major problem with this. Bloomberg's campaign team was really good all things considered. clutterbox1830 Apr 2020 #31
The Billionaires want control. Baked Potato Apr 2020 #34
Excellent Zeus69 Apr 2020 #36

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
1. Bloombeg's Media Operation Was Top-Notch, Ma'am
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:07 PM
Apr 2020

Recruiting them to Mr. Biden's campaign is a sound decision.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
2. I agree
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:08 PM
Apr 2020

I really don't care what the Congresswoman thinks. We are going to need lots of ammunition.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
8. I concur
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:12 PM
Apr 2020

Probably the best I've personally ever seen. It's distrust in his motives & having another billionaire calling the shots that scares the hell out of me.

I'm concerned that they would do a superior job then at the last minute when everyone trusts them, they drop a huge bogus bomb. Like a Comey bomb.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. I agree. They did some hard hitting stuff against Trump.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:48 PM
Apr 2020

Plus, this may be a way for Bloomberg to give money to democrats by basically doing work at cutrate prices, allowing democrats to do other things with the money they save on media.

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
3. Smacks Of Purity Testing
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:09 PM
Apr 2020

There is only one goal! Get rid of Trump.
We are in "backs against the wall", " any means necessary " mode.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
4. I'm okay with this
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:10 PM
Apr 2020

Bloomberg wants Trump out, has endorsed Biden, and ran some of the most effective ad campaigns of the primary season. Frankly, AOC notwithstanding, I've been hoping to hear that Bloomberg and Biden have been in talks.

JDC

(10,117 posts)
6. Didn't he gave a giant, high tech op?
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:10 PM
Apr 2020

Why is it bad to use those resources?


This was touted as a big positive (potentially) when Bloomberg dropped out.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
17. Where does it say he is not funding this?! He promised to spend a billion bucks of his own money....
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:25 PM
Apr 2020

...to get Trump the hell out of the WH, and he has been spending it hand over fist.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
23. He may run in the operation in the red. I believe he sincerely wants Trump defeated.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:09 PM
Apr 2020

And probably could care less if he doesn't make a profit off this, like other firms will want to do.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. He could be implicitly funding it by offering the services at a really low bid.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:50 PM
Apr 2020

By not making a profit, he spins the savings back to democratic campaigns.

renate

(13,776 posts)
12. His firm was PHENOMENAL--I was pretty pumped about Bloomberg solely on the basis of their work
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:17 PM
Apr 2020

Not about him personally, necessarily, but because the firm he hired was so excellent that they would have (and I hope will) run rings around the Trump campaign.

I guess I understand her concerns, but wouldn't any firm have access to the DNC's technology and data infrastructure? I assume that if it's Bloomberg's firm, they won't turn around in the next election and sell their outstanding services to the RNC if the RNC is the top bidder next time.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
13. Have to believe that AOC knows a smidge more about the insides of campaign machinery than I do.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:20 PM
Apr 2020

If she says Bloomberg owning Dem infrastructure is a bad idea I concur.

Now that I think about it, I don't even need to know who AOC is to know this is a bad idea. Course, I distrusted him from way back when he was a repuke and privy to their campaign machinery, all the way back to 2018.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
14. Bloomberg is on our side & is willing to spend money to get Trump out for the good of the country...
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:21 PM
Apr 2020

Like a lot of us here, Mike Bloomberg is a single-issue voter this year. The difference between him and the rest of us is he is a self-made billionaire with resources the rest of us can't even imagine.

I see you searching for words to express yourself. Perhaps the words are: "Thank God."

tirebiter

(2,533 posts)
18. David Plouffe and who ever he can hire need to be the spear
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:26 PM
Apr 2020

Call in the Obama crew to run this show. Plouffe can read numbers better than anyone else.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Doesn't bother me a bit. Bloomberg has shown his commitment to stomping trump.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:38 PM
Apr 2020

We need to stop throwing crud without thinking it through.

texasfiddler

(1,989 posts)
20. Why do some Democrats want to fight
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:54 PM
Apr 2020

with one hand tied behind their back? Brad Parscale will be sitting on 1 billion. I don’t think the DNC is prepared or setup to fight this. COVID 19 makes this even more important in the swing states. This is not a bad idea.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
32. This Person Is A Joke, Ma'am
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:14 PM
Apr 2020

She seems to think she will defeat Rep. Wasserman Schultz in a primary:

If Perelman wants to make mount a legitimate challenge to Wasserman Schultz, the married mother of two must ramp up her fundraising efforts.

According to the latest FEC filings, Perleman has raised roughly $39,000 with $25,000 of that coming from “other loans.” Wasserman Schultz has raised about $700,000.


https://floridianpress.com/2019/10/wasserman-schultz-faces-another-primary-election-challenger/

This shows some serious class:

Perleman, who supports the whole gambit of issues that the “socialist Democrats” in the U.S. Congress are pushing, used a recent story about Wasserman Schultz’s battle against breast cancer to drive home her point that the popular congresswoman does not support the Medicare for All measure.


Threats from people unlikely to crack the Keynes Constant in a primary are hardly a reason to shiver, or to reject an expert media operation.

lapucelle

(18,190 posts)
24. Why is 0casio Cotez linking to Ryan Grim?
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:11 PM
Apr 2020

He's one of the morons who helped to elect Trump.

It's Time To Bury Donald Trump Once And For All
Oct 08, 2016

Helping make Trump the biggest loser in American history doesn’t require you to vote for Hillary Clinton. A vote for anybody other than Trump ― Green Jill Stein, Libertarian Gary Johnson, writing in your own name ― drives down Trump’s overall national percentage by driving up the total turnout.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bury-donald-trump_n_57f86063e4b068ecb5deac56

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
26. Good question!
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:13 PM
Apr 2020

I'm not a huge fan of AOC for some of the actions she has reportedly taken but I personally do not trust Bloomberg, yet I want more than anything for our party to unite & reclain every state & fed office to save our country.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
33. This Is Simply Stupid, Ma'am
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:16 PM
Apr 2020

Mr. Grim seems the sort of fellow who would step from his house with his shoes on his head and his feet in his hat.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
31. I don't a major problem with this. Bloomberg's campaign team was really good all things considered.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:02 PM
Apr 2020

It is much better than Biden's team imo.
Just that Bloomberg was not a good candidate.

Of course, nothing is for free, but I don't see Biden's team improving anytime soon.

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