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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Biden may have an easier time than Clinton winning over Sanders' base
The end of Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign removes the final roadblock standing between Joe Biden and the Democratic presidential nomination.
But it is Sanders army of young, progressive and strong-willed supporters who could pose the more menacing long-term threat to Bidens ability to unify and excite the party as it marches toward a general election battle against President Donald Trump.
Coaxing Sanders backers to climb aboard without alienating the moderate and disillusioned Republicans Biden is counting on in November will be one of the most critical and delicate tasks the former vice presidents campaign undertakes in the coming weeks.
Yet Bidens advisers argue they already sit in a more favorable position to coalesce the left than widely presumed for three central reasons: Bidens visible and behind-the-scenes overtures on progressive policy, a considerably less contentious primary than the one between Hillary Clinton and Sanders in 2016, and the much higher stakes to remove Trump from office.
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Swassed
(3 posts)It is very controversial thing in which every participant give sure win self.
What does that have to do with the OP?
msongs
(67,441 posts)what did secretary clinton say about sanders supporters? "who needs them?"
biden has been much more unifying, esp in the last week.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Walleye
(31,045 posts)obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)voted for anyone but her helped elect Trump. Vote blue no matter who...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Including among Sanders' faction, which regards itself as highly enlightened but is actually heavily influenced by the socially conservative, "lock her up" populist types he also draws.
That, and 40 years of ceaseless vilification of Hillary, most of which had its roots in misogyny.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)because they're not effing STUPID?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Although many fine young people knocked on a lot of doors for him, they turned out not to be an army.
And Sanders drew some young people who are looking for something bigger than themselves to believe in, a movement to join, but generally speaking, people who don't yet vote reliably aren't anyone's base.
A major problem I see in speaking to Sanders' youth voters it that they don't realize yet that his promises weren't real things he could come through with. His dreams have always relied on faith -- that giant waves of support would arise to sweep away all the resistance of representative democracy and clear his path to victory.
Biden's goals in contrast are real-world goals. They're very representative of what Americans want and very accomplishable. But the mundane realities and limitations of serving 327 million people makes them less exciting than Sanders' great movement that refused limitations.
Biden's problem with youth is the one politicians always have with young people who haven't yet developed into engaged, voting citizens (understanding that many people never do). It apparently takes some maturity and a degree of wisdom to be excited and inspired by realistic goals and commitment to maintaining a stable society, within which people can be free to seek their own personal revolutions.
In this case the usual problems are aggravated by the seemingly idealistic expectations Sanders raised in his subset, which a liberal Democratic president not only can't meet but never, ever would, even if it were possible. One faction sweeping all who have other ideas out of its way to impose its will, no matter how well meaning, is not how democracy works.
And that's likely to be discouraging for people of any age who swallowed Sanders' Dem-Repub lies and, so unfortunately, have no idea that to be Democrats fighting to put an end to 40 devastating years of conservative domination and undoing of a century of advances IS to be part of a great movement.
James48
(4,440 posts)Excuse me, but, as a two time Sanders supporter (now age 59), I think this article completely misses the point.
No- announcing Medicare if you want to buy in at Age 60 is nothing like Medicare for All. Its not anywhere near a policy that most Sanders supporters will be willing to go knock on doors for.
Well hold our nose and cast a vote for Mr. Biden, but there is nothing that he stands for that will make a Sanders supporter jump up and down energetically. Im pretty sure that whoever wrote this article likely has never spent a day conversing with a Sanders supporter. And, unfortunately, neither has Joe, nor have Joes advisors .
Good luck. Let us know how that turns out.
Walleye
(31,045 posts)And try not to whine about it.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)down energetically, your jumping is not essential to the process.
Many of us preferred other candidates. We all see what needs to be done now, and we will do it with all our might.
Everyone needs to put on their big people panties now. And if you will not enthusiastically support Joe as an alternative to Donnie Bodybags, I just really don't know what to say to you.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Close to your age, voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary, (mistake! - Has nothing to do with misogyny, I just don't like the Clinton's, like her better than Bill, not going to explain it here) but really don't get your point, well I think I do but I find it extremely offensive.
Well hold our nose and cast a vote for Mr. Biden, but there is nothing that he stands for that will make a Sanders supporter jump up and down energetically. Im pretty sure that whoever wrote this article likely has never spent a day conversing with a Sanders supporter. And, unfortunately, neither has Joe, nor have Joes advisors .
Seriously, FUCKING SERIOUSLY!
1. How many active Corona virus cased do we have in the US right now? How many deaths? Do you think HRC would have done any better? Do you think Biden will do better? (Be real careful how you answer the last two, because they my show your true colors)
Yet you state "We'll hold our nose and cast a vote for Mr. Biden" Seriously, FUCKING SERIOUSLY!
2. Kids are still in cages, that fact the kids were EVER in cages is a problem. Do you think HRC would have done any better? Do you think Biden will do better? yet you state "We'll hold our nose and cast a vote for Mr. Biden" Seriously, FUCKING SERIOUSLY!
3. Could go on and make this list 100 items, stacking courts, the wall, muslim bans, etc, etc, etc. In each cast the same questions are valid. Do you think HRC would have done any better? Do you think Biden will do better? yet you state "We'll hold our nose and cast a vote for Mr. Biden" Seriously, FUCKING SERIOUSLY!
I'm guessing nothing has directly impacted you, if items 1 and 2 can't get you out to enthusiastically vote for Biden, then I suggest the issue is with you and not Biden.
sop
(10,243 posts)out of even the most recalcitrant Bernie follower. The expression "mugged by reality" comes to mind.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)who is just being "undecided" for attention and to fuck with the rest of us, or they are too stupid to be reasoned with.
Either way, they will come around or not due to things that have little to do with what we or the candidate says or does.
I wish people would move on from this. "Courting" these people is self destructuve insanity.
DFW
(54,436 posts)If I were in his position, I would not be approaching them on bended knee, either. He wone the primary decisively, and should act like it.
If Sanders and his machine play a significant part in Biden's election, reward the loyalty. Don't beg for it beforehand.
TexasTowelie
(112,417 posts)than at the tail of the curve more than two deviations left of the mean.
DFW
(54,436 posts)GOTV will be most effective with groups shown to actually have voted in the past.
My message to Sanders and his followers would be "Get With It," not "Get Lost."
CousinIT
(9,257 posts)Now don't get me wrong. I love Biden. I think he's a great person. And he'll make a find President.
But the #1 reason he'd have an easier time over what Clinton dealt with as nominee, is that he's a male.
doc03
(35,364 posts)against Hillary for nearly 30 years. The NRA sent fund raising letters out every few days for decades attacking her and Ted Kennedy. They hammered on Bengazi for
over three years. There is nobody that has ever been so maligned as Hillary Clinton.
I look up and there is anus lips on the TV god I would like to punch him in the mouth.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,856 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,856 posts)... propaganda nearly as much as Hillary Clinton.
The years of attacks against HRC were seeped in the minds of many voters. It can be hard to change some peoples minds after theyve picked a side.
Since those were old and vicious attacks, they could seem more plausible to casual voters who might otherwise expect that sort of thing between opponents of an upcoming election.
sop
(10,243 posts)healthcare panel. Hillary's been the right's favorite bête noire for over a quarter century. Biden's been spared that level of vitriol so far, the most the right would say about Joe was, "he's a gaffe machine."
Trump's Ukraine scheme to smear Biden and his son really blew up in his face, and got him impeached. As a result, Joe's probably been inoculated from future Ukraine attacks. The right-wing's smear machine is scrambling to catch up now, so it will be interesting to see what they come up with over the next seven months.
mcar
(42,372 posts)He's not female.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)1. He's shown, by adopting some of Bernie's platform, that he's open to those kind of ideas.
2. Biden has taken a much more conciliatory tone than Clinton did in 2016. The Clinton camp's attitude toward Bernie supporters was along the lines of "We won. You lost. Get with the program or STFU" while Biden's approach is more "I'm asking you to join me in defeating Trump".
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)No analysis needed - those are WINNERS.