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Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 06:49 AM Apr 2020

University of Washington IHME projections may be somewhat off. At least for Michigan

According to the model, peak deaths was supposed to have happened on the 7th and should now be on the decline but that's not the case. The website projected deaths for the state on the 10th is 111 but 205 actually died.

The site also predicted resource use in the state to have peaked on the 7th of April but new cases continue to climb at a great rate.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/michigan

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University of Washington IHME projections may be somewhat off. At least for Michigan (Original Post) Kaleva Apr 2020 OP
Shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Squinch Apr 2020 #1
It is not lost on we in Michigan gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #2
That model makes some overly-optimistic assumptions... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #3
Here in NW Ohio, I still see masses of people congregating in certain areas, like grocery stores Victor_c3 Apr 2020 #6
No doubt in my mind. nt Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #7
You can bet that the administration favors the most optimistic models. n/t thesquanderer Apr 2020 #4
I'm betting we will find out down the road that they PAID FOR that model somehow. Squinch Apr 2020 #8
As long as the rate of new infections is increasing, the rate of deaths will increase Victor_c3 Apr 2020 #5
Yep snpsmom Apr 2020 #9
What about this modelling site? RockCreek Apr 2020 #10
Thank you for that link! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #12
That site is a mess HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #13
I think that'll be more accurate then the UW model Kaleva Apr 2020 #14
Oddly, it's been over estimating deaths in my state HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #11
What state is that? Kaleva Apr 2020 #16
It's impossible to model the entire US as a whole. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #15

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
3. That model makes some overly-optimistic assumptions...
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 07:51 AM
Apr 2020

... based on data from Wuhan, and that our stay-at-home orders will have similar effects.

As if anyone in the USA is coming close to matching China’s draconian measures at mitigating the spread of the virus!

The Washington Post had an article about those assumptions a few days ago, showing that the models created for Washington DC by local scientists have much worse projections.

The optimistic IMHE model is the only one used at the national level, unfortunately!

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
6. Here in NW Ohio, I still see masses of people congregating in certain areas, like grocery stores
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 08:02 AM
Apr 2020

Everyone is touching fruit, touching freezer doors, and crowding together in the isles. The spread might slow a bit, but it’s still happening- I’m sure of it.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. As long as the rate of new infections is increasing, the rate of deaths will increase
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 07:58 AM
Apr 2020

I read somewhere that people who die typically die around 20-23 days after being infected. With that in mind, we won’t see a decrease until about 20 days after the rate of new infections levels off and starts to decline.

I don’t see that happening for a long time.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
10. What about this modelling site?
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:37 AM
Apr 2020
http://covidactnow.org/
Data by state for hospitalizations predicted and peak, county data in beta test stage.
Updated and readjusted every 24 h per the site.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
14. I think that'll be more accurate then the UW model
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:53 AM
Apr 2020

And the model you link to breaks it down by county which makes sense. The apex for Upper Michigan will come later then for the Detroit area in south east lower Michigan.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
11. Oddly, it's been over estimating deaths in my state
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:41 AM
Apr 2020

Models are just that, so I wouldn’t put much stock in them unless you know what kind of data is being used.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
15. It's impossible to model the entire US as a whole.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:53 AM
Apr 2020

Lots of our country is nothing like China on which early models were based. The rural areas there are more densely packed than even our suburbs. Not to mention all the multigenerational households.

The only place I encounter others is at the grocery and I’ve found a few with little traffic. When I go in I feel like a surgeon. N95 mask and a baggy of alcohol soaked paper towel to wipe down everything.

Our dense cities are going to get hit hard. Social Isolation will really help in the suburbs and true rural areas.

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