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babylonsister

(171,090 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:21 AM Apr 2020

Trump official prepared WH staff...how people with mental illness can be effective leaders

Top Trump official prepared White House staff with a book about how people with mental illness can be effective leaders
David Choi Apr 10, 2020, 3:59 PM

Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney recommended to his colleagues a book suggesting there is a link between mental illness and effective leadership, according to a new book on the Trump administration.
According to ABC chief Washington correspondent Jonathan Karl, Mulvaney used quotes from a book by Nassir Ghaemi, a professor of psychiatry and pharmacology at the Tufts University School of Medicine.
"In at least one vitally important circumstance insanity produces good results and sanity is a problem," Ghaemi's book says.
Ghaemi told Karl that "Trump fits into my thesis perfectly."



Shortly after he became President Donald Trump's acting White House chief of staff, Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney recommended to his colleagues a book suggesting there is a link between mental illness and leadership, according to a new book on the Trump administration.

After he assumed the position in January 2019 — a role known as "the Gatekeeper" because it typically involves managing a president's schedule and whom they meet with — Mulvaney corralled senior staffers at a weekend retreat at Camp David, according to ABC chief Washington correspondent Jonathan Karl's new book, "Front Row at the Trump Show."

According to the book, Mulvaney used a quote from the New York Times bestselling book "A First-Rate Madness: Uncovering the Links Between Leadership and Mental Illness" by Nassir Ghaemi, a professor of psychiatry and pharmacology at the Tufts University School of Medicine.

The book explores several world leaders and their mental facilities — including Napoleon Bonaparte, Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill, and Adolf Hitler — and theorizes that some of them exhibited mental-illness tendencies, while others did not.

Ghaemi's book says, "In at least one vitally important circumstance insanity produces good results and sanity is a problem.

"In times of crisis, we are better off being led by mentally ill leaders than by mentally normal ones.

"Decisions seem easy; no guilt, no doubt, just do it.
The trouble is not in starting things, but in finishing them; with so much to do and little time, it's easy to get distracted."

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
6. I should have kept a tally of how many times I was sure an OP was from The Onion
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:30 AM
Apr 2020

only to learn at a click, I was wrong.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. 'The trouble is not in stating things, but in finishing them; with so much to do and
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

little time, it's easy to get distracted'.

That's trump for sure.

Can't do anything straight.

[Liked the soft-pedaling of 'narcisism' also].

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
8. I'm Bipolar, and I'm in a position of responsibility
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

I’m a college instructor. I’m only successful because my condition is managed through treatment, medication, and therapy. Bipolar disorder is a killer, and while I’m fascinated by the link between creative thinking and mental disorders, I do not enjoy mania.

Here’s an additional quote from the article:

"Some people with manic-depressive illness are unrealistic (even psychotic), unempathic, and unresilient," Ghaemi said in his book. "We shouldn't romanticize this condition; in its most extreme forms, it is highly disabling and dangerous."

This is absolutely true, and certainly of Trump. It is dangerous to consider his instability an asset.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
11. This is just crazy. Period. That's my comment. It's nuts.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:39 AM
Apr 2020

They are twisting themselves in a knot to try to justify a criminal president like Trump.

But, this reminds me of the final scene of IT when you finally get to see the clown is just a front for a really ugly insect beast. THIS is what is driving our rabbit hole, bizarro world realty.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
13. Totally disabled as a result of mental illness here
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:56 AM
Apr 2020

Severe PTSD from my time in Iraq in 2004. I was an Infantry Platoon Leader and in charge of 46 men 4x Bradley Fighting Vehicles and a section (2x) Tanks. 13 of the Soldiers I was in charge of were wounded, 5 of which were killed when I lost a Bradley Fighting Vehicle 10 miles north of Baghdad.

I have no doubt that I would be a capable leader in a tough situation. I have done it repeatedly in the past and I did just fine under intense pressure and making life and death decisions.

I think it depends on the nature of the disability and other personality traits.

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