General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Amish respond to COVID-19:
Link to tweet
Maybe the adult Trump children will pitch in to help!!
Yeah, that's it.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #2)
Post removed
FarPoint
(12,293 posts)The governor of Ohio, Mike DeWine, (R)...he is actually doing a really good job regarding COVID 19 prevention protocols and state wide lock downs...so, I do give credit when due since lives here in Ohio are being saved....Otherwise, before this...DeWine has often more than not been an ass kisser for the GOP and loyalist...
Pillow talk
(265 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)Pillow talk
(265 posts)please expand on this.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This will last until he reverts to his natural state.
Funtatlaguy
(10,862 posts)member of the Lincoln Project.
His groups anti Trump ads are excellent.
Wilson, therefore, is a TEMPORARY ally of Dems to get Trump out of office.
Wilson and his group are backing Biden.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,862 posts)Wilsons tweets about Trump cut deep and are really funny.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)You've no doubt seen niceties given to folks like Nicolle Wallace and her former boss, Steve Schmidt.
Joe Scarborough even gets 2% compliments, but those are like a Bigfoot sighting compared to what the rest of reformed Repubs receive.
We aren't looking for a second Civil War. We mostly look for teachable moments and our own version of conversion therapy. This is because there's no secret handshake. Anyone with Internet can monitor our stuff. A lot of my postings are directed at those RWers who are doing "opposition research". Some DUers read the GOP stuff too, to understand those Stockholm Syndrome victims.
BTW, I've had some trouble posting all day today on here. Putin's St. Pete mischief makers must have taken their vitamins. I'd wave hi to them, but they can't count my fingers.
Just remember to Love Thy Neighbor and hope it finally catches on with our "Christian" friends on the other side.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)paleotn
(17,884 posts)We've simply put our usual disagreements aside, as we both combat a far more insidious and dangerous enemy. All who love democracy, both Democrats and Republicans, must band together in this.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,966 posts)Response to Pillow talk (Reply #21)
Post removed
Response to Pillow talk (Reply #21)
Post removed
brush
(53,743 posts)and his eloquence with words against trump is appreciated here but we will keep a side eye on him once trump is defeated.
malaise
(268,721 posts)No changing that
Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)FarPoint
(12,293 posts)I'm not telling you twice!
Pillow talk
(265 posts)FarPoint
(12,293 posts)You apparently have issues....
Pillow talk
(265 posts)FarPoint
(12,293 posts)They understand the humanitarian needs of the country and do not need to ask....Plus, we have people skills....two areas you are deficient.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)not quite getting who is the enemy is.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)Response to Pillow talk (Reply #23)
Post removed
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)niyad
(113,079 posts)The murdering monster in the WH.
Some have seen the light, and we are interested in what they have to say, from an insider perspective.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)Crabby Appleton
(5,231 posts)Off to my ignore list with you.
FarPoint
(12,293 posts)Not good.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)& "Running against the Devil"
should be banned from DU.
Got it.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Rick Wilson, David Frum, and Steve Schmidt have all provided the most searing, detailed, incisive critiques of Trump and Trumpism. To ignore them because while they fought against Trump and supported Evan McMullin or some other alternative but are not Democrats is a foolish strategy and ill informed.
Objectifying people into small little squares and checking them of and discarding what they say is not an effective coalition building strategy. The point of a Venn diagram is not to reduce the people on your side by rejecting everyone that is not in your exclusive sub set but to expand overlapping areas of agreement, build on areas of agreement and get more people on your side.
The election for Presidency is set, there are no undecideds. It is only a question of turnout. The Senate however is in play. We have the chance to flip seats in Colorado, Arizona, Montana, North Carolina, Maine and yes even Kentucky. The only way we can do that is by embracing Never Trump Republicans and persuade them, as Wilson has so eloquently said, "Everything that Trump touches dies" and that the Republican Party is no longer a party based on principle but a group based on "strong man/authoritarian" principles.
That you would be so strident in your objection to Wilson when he is holding up the Amish as principled Americans is in itself rather telling. To be so dismissive against one of Trump's most vocal and sharp witted critics only because he is a Republican is good for the "rah rah rah" set but I think you will find that discussion at DU is elevated, most of the time, by more substantive content in discussion than a rote rejection of people who are not in our party but in complete agreement about Trump.
Now here is his comments on a tweet someone made about the good work on Amish helping local hospitals:
Hey folks!
Looking for some positive stories of folks helping to lift ip and support local and small businesses in the current economic climate.
I know there are a lot out there, and we can all amplify their good work.
What was it exactly that you found so offensive?
Pillow talk
(265 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,710 posts)The urge to be purist is the same one exhibited in the Sanders campaign. They drove potential allies away in droves. Ultimately they couldn't gain more than about 30% support, not enough to win.
It's also the same urge that Trump has, to focus on his base. It's why he never pivoted to be the president of the whole country.
I believe in finding common ground and expanding those we can work with to achieve more.
After all is said and done we are fellow humans and fellow Americans. We have to find a way to reconcile and restore civic friendships. Those are friendly relationships where one can actually discuss our views, truthfully and even passionately, without it getting ugly.
Old Terp
(464 posts)who run the spectrum from progressive to traditional Republicans. The question was asked: who would you like to have a President? Republican replied "Al Gore" and I should point out that he is from Tennessee. Several of my friends are traditional Republicans and we spend hours agreeing on how awful Trump is and on values such as universal medical care and climate help. They didn't vote for him then and are less likely to vote for him now.
brush
(53,743 posts)Enjoy your stay.
FarPoint
(12,293 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)And right now, I gladly take a Never Trump Republican on a mission to defeat Trump over a supposed progressive (they don't deserve that label) who won't vote for Biden.
But just for clarity, it's not even a tweet from but a reply to Wilson that was about the Amish helping in this crisis that is making you all butthurt and "confused". Maybe you should reconsider your priorities. The number 1 priority is getting rid of Trump and not reflexively hating Republicans or ex-Republicans who are helping more in that regard than some others.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)JHB
(37,157 posts)There are plenty of people making sharp, witty, and biting hot takes, so why are we inundated with the ones from the very people who spent their careers making this mess?
Pillow talk
(265 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The OP is merely a post of a tweet about the Amish helping out in Ohio.
If you have a problem with people pitching in against the pandemic, then I think you are going to have a lot of problems on DU.
Response to jberryhill (Reply #35)
Post removed
The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)Once you erupt in complete poutrage, it may be entertaining, but it would have to be awfully amusing to make up for the waiting....
Pillow talk
(265 posts)The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)Who regards your sort of pretensions with a jaundiced eye....
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 11, 2020, 08:22 PM - Edit history (1)
as in "You are probably..."
Second, you're pretty damn judgemental for someone who just joined DU last month - quite unappealing in a newbie.
Third, your assertion that "Republicans have a strong presence here" is absurd. Rick Wilson, among others in the Lincoln Project, have forsworn present-day Republicanism and have called for its demise.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It's a tweet about the Amish pitching in.
It doesn't freaking matter who tweeted it.
You want to piss on a sincere community sentiment, feel free, but don't expect to last here long with this type of pointless poutrage over literally nothing.
The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)There's just a twitch an old mod can't help feeling sometimes....
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)hit state's response to the coronavirus. Same with Hogan (R-MD). Does that take you aback? Tough.
brush
(53,743 posts)repugs here. What are you trying to stir up?
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Everyone coming together to help out, no matter who they are, or what their religious beliefs may be.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)My town was built by German Baptist and the Amish are all around. They have stores, many for generations. I have also hired many, become friends. My small Church of the Brethren is a part of this. Love Thy Neighbor.
William769
(55,144 posts)lame54
(35,268 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)over the "progressives" posting whyimnotvotingforjoe on twitter this morning.
Every. Damn. Day.
The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)They must be trolling us, because I lean left farther than anyone I know and I'm still voting for Biden.
Bernie is past his shelf-life and became obsolete when we had such a strong, diverse, and populated field of candidates this time. It was different in '16 when we had three legitimate candidates and a couple of Where's Waldo? ones.
I also like Rick Wilson. He's witty, snarky, and intelligent. This gives them fits on the other side. The real test will be if the GOP can muster a normal human being in the future.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Butterflylady
(3,537 posts)Than the Amish from Ohio are different from the Amish in PA. The Amish where I live would never wear bright colors, it's against their religion. It looks to me like there are Mennonites working with them. This is nothing new for Mennonites. Their always working on something to help out their community especially when there's a disaster.They have a name for their organization, however, I can't think of it now. Most of the time they make quilts to sell at auctions. Unlike the trump charities, they actually help people.
Chellee
(2,091 posts)You can tell by their coverings. The head coverings that Mennonite women wear are much, much smaller. And yes, the Amish in Ohio, Indiana, and Pennsylvania do dress differently. Their buggies are very different as well. Sometimes depending on who your bishop is buggies can be completely different even one county over.
BTW, is it Mennonite Relief Fund that you're thinking of?
on edit: When you see the picture blown up there's one guy at the 5th table back that's wearing a plaid shirt. He's not Amish. LOL
paleotn
(17,884 posts)There's an Amish community near us over in NY. Was wondering how they were coping with CvD-19. In the typical Amish fashion apparently. I know of another Christian sect that could learn many lessons from them. But they won't.
crickets
(25,952 posts)It's so comforting to see a community swing into action to help, and to do so while under their own stresses in this situation. The Amish are really coming through to help in producing PPEs in a way that we all would love to do if we could.