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Demovictory9

(32,413 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:00 AM Apr 2020

A nurse revealed the tragic last words of his coronavirus patient: 'Who's going to pay for it?'

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/nurse-last-words-coronavirus-patient-trnd/index.html

Certified registered nurse anesthetist Derrick Smith is no stranger to the horrors of losing patients. But now, the coronavirus pandemic has pushed him into a completely different, "much more terrifying" reality.

Smith, who is predominantly treating Covid-19 patients at a hospital in New York City, revealed the tragic last words of a dying man he was about to place on a ventilator: "Who's going to pay for it?" the coronavirus patient asked Smith in between labored breaths.

"They were last words I'll never forget," Smith told CNN.

&quot This patient) was in severe respiratory distress, had difficulty speaking, and yet still his main concern was who could pay for a procedure that would his extend his life but statistically he doesn't have a good likelihood of survival."

Knowing that the patient was most likely not going to recover once he was intubated, Smith and his colleagues called the man's wife to give them what may have been their last chance to say goodbye.

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"I was very sad and honestly, a little horrified. This demonstrates that we have a profound failure when one has to worry about their finances when they're dealing with much bigger issues that have to do with life or death."
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A nurse revealed the tragic last words of his coronavirus patient: 'Who's going to pay for it?' (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2020 OP
Words never uttered by any person in the UK, or Australia, or Canada.. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #1
+1000 Jamastiene Apr 2020 #2
I'm sorry you're going through that hell. Hang in there. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #4
we need more than that in NC barbtries Apr 2020 #6
The Rethugs are trying to play the long game with the COVID-19 pandemic. Celerity Apr 2020 #7
thank you for that. barbtries Apr 2020 #10
Thank you! Jamastiene Apr 2020 #11
I wish this was an OP as well. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #15
Gerrymandering needs to be illegal I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #17
Actually, the Johnson Regime in Britain has been Undercutting National Health Services (NHS) Nacht Owl Apr 2020 #8
Brits won't allow Tories to dismantle the NHS. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #9
After they just saved his life. smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #12
That is beyond sad. America really is embarrassing Jamastiene Apr 2020 #3
Or file for bankruptcy shanti Apr 2020 #14
USA! USA! USA! DEbluedude Apr 2020 #5
that is awful demtenjeep Apr 2020 #13
Kick dalton99a Apr 2020 #16
Good to see someone with his priorities in order gratuitous Apr 2020 #18

SunSeeker

(51,499 posts)
1. Words never uttered by any person in the UK, or Australia, or Canada..
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:14 AM
Apr 2020

or any industrialized modern country, other than the US.


And Trump refuses to reopen the ACA enrollment despite this pandemic. He really is an evil monster.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
2. +1000
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:58 AM
Apr 2020

I was one of the ones who fell through the Medicaid Expansion loophole. After states were allowed to "opt out" of the Medicaid Expansion, they didn't add subsidies for those of us who would have qualified for it. At least, that is how the locals here in NC where I live have it. You have no subsidies if you would have qualified for the Medicaid Expansion.

On top of that, in my county and several other rural counties, Blue Cross Blue Shield is the ONLY option you have. There are no other health insurance companies or health exchanges to get lower rates. The absolute lowest offer Blue Cross Blue Shield had when I tried to enroll this year was $500 a month with a $9,000 deductible. It did not pay for any medicines or visits to the doctor or anything either. It was only "catastrophic" coverage.

I would be lucky to be able to make that much money per month if I worked 2 or 3 jobs where I live, that is, if I wanted to pay my water and power bills and eat anything at all too. Problem is, Walmart is our major employer here and jobs are scarce at best here anyhow.

Still, to be able to at least get it at all in case I do catch this thing and have to go into a hospital here, woudl be better than othign at all. Trump is truly heartless. I have heard people say this person or that person is heartless, but Trump and his entire family and administration take the cake for giving a new definition to the meaning of "heartless."

SunSeeker

(51,499 posts)
4. I'm sorry you're going through that hell. Hang in there.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:18 AM
Apr 2020

There's hope if we can vote Trump and the few GOP Senators out on Nov. 3.

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
6. we need more than that in NC
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:50 AM
Apr 2020

We need to turn the GA blue. Republicans here all seem to be mini-trumps.

Celerity

(43,048 posts)
7. The Rethugs are trying to play the long game with the COVID-19 pandemic.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 06:21 AM
Apr 2020

There are other ways they will try and game this all out (trillions in looting will and are going on as I type), but I will just lay these two structural manoeuvres out:

1. They want as many dead in solid Blue states as possible, so that they lose EC votes down the road, OR free up human slots in those states so that 'liberals' will move to the already Blue states to make up slack, thus making the purple and pinkish states more Red.

2. In the flat out Red states, they look at the numbers, see that A-A's and Latinx are massive outliers in terms of deadly viral impact, and are banking on killing a shedload of us (I am PoC) off, but not so much that they lose too many RW whites, and not so much that they defeat the first gambit's overall thrust.

Before you dismiss that as being above the buffoon ass-clown Trump's intellectual paygrade (it vastly is), just take a reconnoitre of the insane level of scientific EXACTNESS and detailed rapier-like precision that they utilised for partisan gerrymandering. They had it down to not just street-level cleavages, but in some cases, apartment complex and uni dorm building level.


The Secret Files of the Master of Modern Republican Gerrymandering

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-files-of-the-master-of-modern-republican-gerrymandering

Thomas Hofeller preached secrecy as he remapped American politics from the shadows. The Republican Party operative, known as the master of the modern gerrymander, trained other G.O.P. operatives and legislators nationwide to secure their computer networks, guard access to their maps, and never send e-mails that they didn’t want to see published by the news media. In training sessions for state legislators and junior line drawers, he used a PowerPoint presentation that urged them to “avoid recklessness” and “always be discreet,” and warned that “emails are the tool of the devil.” Hofeller did not follow his own advice. Before his death, in August, 2018, he saved at least seventy thousand files and several years of e-mails. A review of those records and e-mails—which were recently obtained first by The New Yorker—raises new questions about whether Hofeller unconstitutionally used race data to draw North Carolina’s congressional districts, in 2016. They also suggest that Hofeller was deeply involved in G.O.P. mapmaking nationwide, and include new trails for more potential lawsuits challenging Hofeller’s work, similar to the one on Wednesday which led to the overturning of his state legislative maps in North Carolina.

Hofeller’s files include dozens of intensely detailed studies of North Carolina college students, broken down by race and cross-referenced against the state driver’s-license files to determine whether these students likely possessed the proper I.D. to vote. The studies are dated 2014 and 2015, the years before Hofeller helped Republicans in the state redraw its congressional districts in ways that voting-rights groups said discriminated on the basis of race. North Carolina Republicans said that the maps discriminated based on partisanship but not race. Hofeller’s hard drive also retained a map of North Carolina’s 2017 state judicial gerrymander, with an overlay of the black voting-age population by district, suggesting that these maps—which are currently at the center of a protracted legal battle—might also be a racial gerrymander. Other files provide new details about Hofeller’s work for Republicans across the country. Hofeller collected data on the citizen voting-age population in North Carolina, Texas, and Arizona, among other states, as far back as 2011. Hofeller was part of a Republican effort to add a citizenship question to the census, which would have allowed political parties to obtain more precise citizenship data ahead of the 2020 redistricting cycle. State legislative lines could then have been drawn based on the number of citizen voters, which Hofeller believed would make it easier to pack Democrats and minorities into fewer districts, giving an advantage to Republicans.

Other documents show that Hofeller was hired by a Massachusetts Republican who sought to use the Voting Rights Act provision for majority/minority seats to draw a single district containing all of Boston, so that Republicans could make inroads into an otherwise entirely Democratic congressional delegation. Hofeller drew several sets of maps, but the effort went nowhere. Additional files document his work in Mississippi, Alabama, and Virginia, among other states. E-mails also connect Hofeller to redistricting efforts in Florida. Top Republican officials in the state have denied that they played any official role in drawing the state’s legislative and congressional districts in 2011. A 2010 state constitutional amendment barred partisan gerrymandering in Florida. E-mails show that Hofeller communicated with and visited top G.O.P. political operatives in Florida in 2011. The operatives helped organize or draw state legislative and congressional maps that matched the districts that were later enacted. The operatives insisted, at a trial, that drawing the maps was only a hobby. A Florida judge found that argument unconvincing, concluding that the G.O.P. conducted a stealth redistricting operation that snuck partisan maps into the public process and made a “mockery” of the state’s constitutional amendments.

The files mostly pertain to Hofeller’s work in North Carolina, where he drew—and defended in court—the state’s legislative and congressional maps multiple times, after judges ruled them to be either unconstitutionally partisan or racial gerrymanders. The congressional lines that he helped draw in 2016 were struck down by a federal court as a partisan gerrymander; that decision was vacated this past June, in a 5–4 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court. Perhaps one of the clearest and ugliest gerrymanders in North Carolina—or in the entire nation—is the congressional-district line that cuts in half the nation’s largest historically black college, North Carolina A&T State University, in Greensboro. The district line divided this majority minority campus—and the city—so precisely that it all but guarantees it will be represented in Congress by two Republicans for years to come. North Carolina Republicans have long denied that this line, between the state’s Sixth and Thirteenth Congressional Districts, was intentionally drawn to dilute black voting power, which would be a violation of the constitutional prohibition against racial gerrymandering.


A map of Greensboro shows precincts color-coded by race and age.


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barbtries

(28,753 posts)
10. thank you for that.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

it should be a post on its own. though the information has been out for awhile, there are undoubtedly many people who haven't seen it yet.

I cannot overstate how bad the republicans in NC are. it's not possible.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
11. Thank you!
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:23 PM
Apr 2020

I wish we could let Democratic Party leaders know just how many ties Trump has to the NC Republicans. They are some of the most organized and corrupt politicians in our country and are in control of the national level Republican Party as well.

A very eye opening exercise is to look at how many NC Republicans are in the top level of the national Republican Party and just many Republicans Trump has in his admin.

Many of the least qualified people he has in his admin are from NC, including Blackwater leader Erik Prince's sister, Betsy DeVos. Prince is worth 2.4 billion dollars, btw. Think of extremely corrupt Republicans with billions to spend to influence the federal government and think of all of the ties to hate groups and other racist groups that many of these Republicans have.

Many of the Republicans caught trying to cash in on Covid-19 are from NC as well.

It cannot be emphasized enough how much of a threat the NC Republican Party is to civil rights, freedom, and any hope for this country to ever have progressive policies again. They have far too much power.

Last I checked, the gerrymandered District 9, my district, unfortunately, has not been corrected after courts ordered them to correct it. They courts said that this district was gerrymandered using racism with "surgical precision."

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
15. I wish this was an OP as well.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:33 PM
Apr 2020

Thank you for this info. The way the NC Republican Party gerrymandered the districts in NC was extremely racist. The courts said it was gerrymandered using racism with "surgical precision." Last I checked they still haven't fixed District 9 after being told to fix it by the courts. They aren't even doing what the courts say to do now.

This is the district where Mark Harris, the NC Republican running for the congressional seat here, was caught stealing absentee ballots from people and barely got a slap on the wrist for it. His own son testified against him. The Republicans got to change politicians and run a new batch of Republicans to run against McCready in 2018.

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/26/698265649/n-c-republican-at-center-of-election-fraud-case-wont-run-in-special-election

Changing horses mid race method Republicans have used to disenfranchise voters here in NC. The one who won the special election later was Dan Bishop, the leading author of the transphobic, bigoted "bathroom bill" in NC that cost the state millions of dollars in boycotts.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
3. That is beyond sad. America really is embarrassing
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:01 AM
Apr 2020

itself by being the only western country with a healthcare system that is highway robbery for even a simple trip to the ER to get maybe stitches. Even that could cause doctors and hospitals to threaten to take your home to pay for it. This Covid-19 has got to be expensive to treat.

Sadly, I would imagine his wife might end up having to pay for it, depending on how they had their bank accounts and stuff set up.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. Good to see someone with his priorities in order
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:27 PM
Apr 2020

Even on his deathbed, good citizens of capitalism first know that their primary concern is making sure someone gets paid.

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