when did trump declare virus a hoax?

[gopiscrap]

[elleng]

1. Early and often

[MontanaMama]

2. I dunno but I'm wondering why

no member of the press will ask him about it. “Mr pResident, when you said the virus was a Democratic hoax, what exactly did you mean by that? Do you know the meaning of the word, hoax?”

[sfstaxprep]

3. The Press????

The media in this country is a fucking joke.

They're all out for themselves. They couldn't care less about challenging the Fuhrer.

[sheshe2]

31. Really?

Some are better than others, however if you watched the briefings they aren't even allowed to get three words out of their mouth before he screams over them.

Sorry, I disagree with you. They challenge him all the time. Not sure what news stations you watch, yet CNN is doing a pretty fine job.

Perhaps you should watch 60 minutes as well.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213275811

[sheshe2]

33. Here ya go.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213280150

[sheshe2]

34. Oh!

Found another one from today.

So again, Really?

sfstaxprep
3. The Press????

The media in this country is a fucking joke.

They're all out for themselves. They couldn't care less about challenging the Fuhrer.

The press isn't the joke. The prez is.

I don't get why you denigrate the press and not the prez.

[brewens]

8. I've challenged Trumpers with that and all they can say is, everything the democrats were doing to

take Trump down. I ask for specific examples and they don't have one because Trump never told them. I did that knowing whatever they came up with would be something we are seeing happen, or not happen.

[sheshe2]

32. They have.

Not in those exact words, yet they have.

Trump Tangles with Reporters Asking About Coronavirus ‘Hoax’ Comments, Dr. Fauci Being ‘Muzzled’

President Donald Trump became irritated during the coronavirus press conference over questions about his “hoax” comments and the supposed “muzzling” of NIAID director Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Speaking at a rally in South Carolina on Friday, Trump said that Democrats are “politicizing” the coronavirus and quoted a supporter who called it the “new hoax” to try to beat him.

During Saturday’s presser, Trump was asked about the remarks.
“You were down in Charleston last night using the word hoax when talking about Democrats,” said one reporter. “Somebody now is dead from this, do you regret that kind of talk?”

“No no no, hoax referring to the action that they take to try and pin this on somebody, because we’ve done such a good job, and the hoax is on them,” said Trump. “I’m not talking about what’s happening here, I’m talking what they’re doing, that’s the hoax. That’s just a continuation of the hoax, whether it’s the impeachment hoax or the Russia Russia Russia hoax.”

More:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-tangles-with-reporters-asking-about-coronavirus-hoax-comments-dr-fauci-being-muzzled/

[jmg257]

4. Feb 28th... Refers to Dem response to his response as a hoax..

What's True
During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

[ProfessorGAC]

23. Snopes Is Being Silly

They are playing semantic games with their fact check.
First, he did reference the virus concern as a hoax. This is ipso facto calling the virus a hoax.
Second, a demagogue with no reputation for nuance, used the virus & hoax in the same sentence.
To attribute detailed syntactical skill & nuance to Trump is fallacious & nonsensical.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Has snopes been playing a lot of semantics lately? Is it still run by the same people than

lets say 2 yrs ago?

[ProfessorGAC]

29. I Don't Think So, In General

But, this interpretation is pretty tortured.

[Thomas Hurt]

5. 2-28 Touch Myself Rally...he never said that virus itself was a hoax...

he dismissed the seriousness of the virus and called the Democratic concern a hoax, implying the virus was as well.

Afterward he started squealing fake news and said the virus itself was not a hoax.

[FreeState]

6. Feb 28, 2020 n/t

[handmade34]

7. Feb 28 at rally

he called it hoax

[brewens]

10. He did. The best they can come up with really is that was not what he meant. n/t

[handmade34]

13. always the excuse

"not what he meant"
"only kidding"
"didn't see it"
etc.
they are damn good at trying to gaslight

[Windy City Charlie]

9. That's why

I think what they're going to try and do is re-write history and claim it was the Democrats who were calling it a hoax. At this point, it's all about making sure the Trumpers don't desert him.

[WestCoastYellowDog]

11. At one of the rallies in Late February

Snopes tried to claim he was referring to the Democrats, but if you read the quote in entirety, it sounded like he called the coronavirus a hoax.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

[The Magistrate]

14. Exactly, Sir --- And Welcome To The Forum

Snopes bent over backwards and tied themselves in knots to get that reading of what the cheap thug said. The critter doesn't quite speak English like a native, but the meaning conveyed was clear, and was the meaning the cheap thug intended to convey.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. The Inferred Nuance...

...from a guy who sold himself on a total lack of same.
There are people at Snopes who have friends calling them pretzel.

[The Magistrate]

28. And They Should, Sir

This reading of the statement is bloody-minded bullshit, engaged in to no better purpose than to demonstrate the supreme and purposeless cleverness of the person who contrived it.

[malaise]

18. Hardly matters - neither the virus nor the urgency of dealing with it

was a hoax. He is the one who sat on it.

[jberryhill]

12. It depends on how one interprets the comment

In context, he referred to criticism of his response to the virus as "their new hoax".

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-calls-democrats-coronavirus-criticism-a-new-hoax

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485245-trump-hits-democrats-over-coronavirus-criticism-this-is-their-new-hoax

"The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," he told the crowd in North Charleston.

"One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well," Trump said. "They tried the impeachment hoax."

"This is their new hoax," he said, apparently referring to Democrats' criticism of the official coronavirus response.

[The Magistrate]

17. The Trouble With That Exculpatory Reading, Sir

Is that neither criticism of his response to the spreading infection, nor expressions of concern for its consequences, can be a 'hoax' if the underlying event is not a hoax. If the claim is not that the danger of the virus is a hoax, there is no meaning at all to the statement. For that he was being criticized was true, and that concern over the danger of the contagion was being expressed, are plain facts.

The cheap thug's meaning when he referred to impeachment as a hoax was certainly that the charges underlying his impeachment were false, that they were concocted, made up --- that they were, in a word, a hoax. The meaning intended by branding as a hoax criticism over his response to the contagion, and concern for the danger posed by the contagion, is the same. It is a claim that the criticism is over made up things, and that the concern is over a made up thing.


"Defeat of a hated and dangerous enemy is something to be for!!!"

[VOX]

20. Magistrate, Sir, I struggled for an hour to put into words what you did so swiftly and eloquently.

You have a gift. It is always a pleasure (and a bit humbling) to read your skillfully worded musings.
Good to have you aboard, Sir.

[The Magistrate]

21. Thank You, Sir

Heavens help me, but I like doing it....



"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for!!!"

[jberryhill]

22. The bottom line

Is that it won’t convince a Trump supporter that he is a dangerous fool. It is merely an invitation to another rabbit hole.

Concurrent with that statement, he did not deny the reality of a virus per se.

[ProfessorGAC]

25. Yes & No

It won't change any cult member minds.
But, per se is an unfair standard.
Trump's appeal was a lack of nuance.
Applying nuance, post facto, to a "red meat" statement makes no sense.
He said what he meant, and he meant it was a hoax.

[The Magistrate]

27. Does Anyone Care About Convincing Shit-Heels Who Support The Cheap Thug, Sir?

I certainly do not. They are addicted to rage and racism, and must be written off as so many junkies. They must be overwhelmed by decent folk.

Shit-heels who support the cheap thug believed this a hoax when he said it was, and many still do. There are shit-heels taking pictures of hospitals to claim there are not really throngs of people ill to their deaths with this. There are shit-heels claiming the death figures are greatly overstated, are in fact lies to tarnish the cheap thug they worship. In some, belief the contagion is a hoax coexists easily with belief the cheap thug is energetically and even valiantly defeating the contagion almost single-handed against the obstruction of experts loyal to the 'deep state' who only want to wreck the economy. They would make the 'gangster gramaphones' Mr. Orwell derived the concept of doublethink from observing blush in admiration and shame they had been so outdone by mere half-educated shit-heels. People like this cannot be argued with, or be made to change their minds, by anything short of a club creasing their skulls. They are a lost cause, and no serious campaign to oust this cheap and traitorous thug from the White House can afford to waste the least smidgen of effort in attempts at convincing or courting these vile creatures, who have simply and willingly abdicated their responsibility to be thinking, self-aware, decent human beings.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for!!!"

[VOX]

19. Isn't Trump's characterizing the COVID-19 warnings as a hoax concocted by Democrats...

... tantamount to claiming that those warnings and alerts were fake, false untrue, and in Trump’s inverted “reality,” were actually nothing more than scare-stories to make him look bad? And by implication, those warnings about the virus are not only something to be ignored, but something to be weaponized against Democrats, which they were indeed.

For awhile, social media was overflowing with belligerent garbage spread by bots and 45’s cult members, all centered on the insane idea that the COVID virus warnings and projections were really a “Democrat (sic) hoax” to ruin Trump’s fantastic, greatest-in-history presidency and his “soaring economy.”

Trump may not have specifically said, “the virus is a hoax,” but he drew the dots and connected half of them for his followers. He’s very cagey about directing his cult. It’s the one thing he does well, regrettably.

[heckles65]

15. All the presidential race Democrats were demanding effective action.

Now calling coronavirus itself a hoax and saying the Administration's response was ineffective in the face of a clear danger - what's the difference?? Either way Drumpf is saying "you have nothing to worry about."

[beachbumbob]

16. one of his public statements from a campaign rally in February

During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, Easily googled

[meadowlander]

30. Might be able to work it out from this:

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