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What states will go into that rabbit hole when Trump says to open the economy? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Apr 2020 OP
20,000 person Red States with no net positive to GDP. uponit7771 Apr 2020 #1
TN Already said opening early May SheltieLover Apr 2020 #2
Aren't there some states leftieNanner Apr 2020 #3
THIS Eliot Rosewater Apr 2020 #7
Details matter. Igel Apr 2020 #8
you know the ones RT Atlanta Apr 2020 #4
Lot's of back room wheelin' & dealin' spanone Apr 2020 #5
Whatever Trump says, they have to do. Kablooie Apr 2020 #6
I think it's rather nuanced. Some areas probably could relax things. If we had good testing. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #9

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. TN Already said opening early May
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 08:57 PM
Apr 2020

Announced just a day or 2 following Vanderbilt Univ released study projecting TN peak mid-June.

Brilliant, hu?

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
7. THIS
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:01 PM
Apr 2020
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/asa-hutchison-arkansas-coronavirus/index.html


(CNN)Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson is one of seven governors -- all Republicans -- who have yet to issue a stay-at-home order to his citizens as a way to limit the spread of coronavirus nationwide.

"We want to take the long-term approach to this and you're not going to win simply by a lockdown," Hutchinson explained to CNN's Jake Tapper on Sunday, adding: "There's a lot of hope and optimism this Easter that our tough time behind and we're going to be getting better."


Murderers...arrest them now.

These are physically violent killers...anyone who does this.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
8. Details matter.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:06 PM
Apr 2020

Arkansas hasn't done badly. It's curve is about like everybody else's.

It does have a bunch of restrictions in place--saying no statewide order often is taken to say nothing's been done, which is a bad inference and shows ill-will on the part of the writer at this point. They know how it's taken and I've come to think intend for that false inference to be made.

There might also be a sense of injustice in there--look at cities where too little was done too late and the death toll there, how dare an entire state not suffer for the same acts. Except that Arkansas isn't NYC. Fewer carriers to start off with, it started later, it's already less crowded, demographics are different. Why it should have the same outcome is the question to be asked at this point, not why is the outcome different.

Might still blow up though. NY's delay in their stay at home order probably killed far, far more than Hutchinson's lack of a statewide order.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
4. you know the ones
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 08:59 PM
Apr 2020

Pretty much anyone in the Southeast with a republican governor is going to (regardless whether it of course makes sense or not). This will likely include brine 'i hate mexicans' kemp (regardless of the fact the fucking CDC is located in Chamblee and less than 8 miles from his governor's mansion on West Paces Ferry Rd).

Kablooie

(18,626 posts)
6. Whatever Trump says, they have to do.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:00 PM
Apr 2020

The Constitution gives Trump the president, absolute total and complete control over all the states.
He said so himself.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
9. I think it's rather nuanced. Some areas probably could relax things. If we had good testing.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:42 PM
Apr 2020

Which we don’t.

I lived in Arkansas for a while. Most parts of that state are not nearly at as much risk as big cities. Unless you have lived in those types of areas you don’t know that most of their lives are socially distant. So you probably don’t have to have a tight a lockdown as NYC, LA or even Orlando

But only if they do common sense things like not gathering in big crowds like church or funerals. The problem is they won’t do common sense things. And we don’t have testing.

And even if they could open up safety, that won’t help the economy. Because cities are where business gets done. Open up all the rural parts of rural states. So what?

A common meme on places like FR is that come a conflict among the stares the cities will starve. Which is BS. You can’t eat a field of soy beans or field corn and all that stuff is bought, sold and processed in the cities.

Until it is safe to open up the economic hubs of America, which is the cities, we are up shit creek. And I live in the Orlando area and my job depends on tourism. I get furloughed Saturday. As does the wife.

We aren’t happy that our plans for early retirement on the gulf coast with our boat in a nearby marina are now probably scrapped. But it beats being dead. So we work till 65 as most people have to. Shit happens. Dad taught me that when I was 13.

It astounds me that the republicans are so open to favoring economics over peoples lives. And it’s gonna cost them big time.





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