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AZ-SEN: Mark Kelly Opens Wide Lead In Arizona (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2020 OP
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #1
Good sign Dem2 Apr 2020 #2
One who will get part of my stimulus money. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #3
be courteous. send thank u note to mf45 NCjack Apr 2020 #7
Me too WVreaper Apr 2020 #9
Here is where my stimulus $$ will go--it'll help Kelly and other key candidates: lastlib Apr 2020 #17
Thanks for your input. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #20
K&R UTUSN Apr 2020 #4
Excellent. This will counter the almost assured loss of Jones' seat in Alabama... SKKY Apr 2020 #5
Good! ananda Apr 2020 #6
steady as he goes. Nov 3 long way aways. riversedge Apr 2020 #8
Indeed, but it is nice to get some good news every so often... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #16
True but McSally has demonstrated an absolute genius for maintaining a grantcart Apr 2020 #22
Those of us who live in McSally's former Congressional District... Sloumeau Apr 2020 #10
This makes me so happy wryter2000 Apr 2020 #11
Good!! PatrickforO Apr 2020 #12
Excellent news. Dems gonna kick some butt in Nov 2020. nt iluvtennis Apr 2020 #13
Cautious optimism, but......... DFW Apr 2020 #14
Nice photo, you keep good company as expected from your posts. saidsimplesimon Apr 2020 #21
Over the years DFW Apr 2020 #26
What a wonder sentiment!!! Raster Apr 2020 #39
Can't wait to vote for him! MLAA Apr 2020 #15
It needs to be bigger than that! Hulk Apr 2020 #18
Mark is fairly middle-of-the-road with a leftward bent DFW Apr 2020 #33
I appreciate your response... Hulk Apr 2020 #45
No sweat DFW Apr 2020 #46
Yay! Looking good! liberalla Apr 2020 #19
More info here ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #23
YAY!!! K&R onetexan Apr 2020 #24
Spent January and February in AZ mountain grammy Apr 2020 #25
The tribes have good reason to get involved this time DFW Apr 2020 #34
So true. In NM they played a big part in electing a Democratic governor in 20018 mountain grammy Apr 2020 #42
Wonderful!! Cha Apr 2020 #27
Yay!!!!!❤ Karadeniz Apr 2020 #28
The last astronaut The Wizard Apr 2020 #29
What about Bill Nelson of Florida? DFW Apr 2020 #35
Yay! TlalocW Apr 2020 #30
Biden is up in AZ too. Let's flip it blue! Qutzupalotl Apr 2020 #31
K&R Blue Owl Apr 2020 #32
love his logo Celerity Apr 2020 #36
Have a couple of t-shirts, hat, buttons... Raster Apr 2020 #38
AZ has had some interesting characters for Senators Celerity Apr 2020 #41
McSally*: SELECTED never Elected. Raster Apr 2020 #37
Arizona is going to Biden Armando Joe Apr 2020 #40
She should get her resume updated. Butterflylady Apr 2020 #43
Go Dems! Nitram Apr 2020 #44

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
17. Here is where my stimulus $$ will go--it'll help Kelly and other key candidates:
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:57 PM
Apr 2020
The Payback Project is targeting eleven(?) vulnerable and/or obnoxious GOPher Senators, including McSilly, McTurdle, SusieQCollins, Ernst, Tillis, Leningrad Lindsey, and others.

And, of course, I'll be donating more to the Biden campaign.

Thank you, tRumpski! I hope that $1200 is what takes you down!

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
20. Thanks for your input.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:10 PM
Apr 2020

Mines a little loose as of now Biden of course. My congressional district. McGrath, anywhere we can gain Senate seats.

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
5. Excellent. This will counter the almost assured loss of Jones' seat in Alabama...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:13 PM
Apr 2020

....I'm telling you, if we can take back the Senate we're good. Even if we lose the WH.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
22. True but McSally has demonstrated an absolute genius for maintaining a
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:11 PM
Apr 2020

Concrete ceiling of 45%.

You would be surprised how many don't realize who Kelly is married to. There is great affection for "Gabby".

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
10. Those of us who live in McSally's former Congressional District...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:13 PM
Apr 2020

would love to see McSally get beaten in *TWO* Senate races 2 years apart. Woohoo!

DFW

(54,370 posts)
14. Cautious optimism, but.........
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

Yeah, I think Mark is going to send McSilly packing. Every Trumpanzee in the Senate is one too many.

Of course, I am not biased, or anything. Nooooooooo.............
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DFW

(54,370 posts)
26. Over the years
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:44 PM
Apr 2020

I have had the good fortune to acquire the friendship of some people who make me feel VERY small, and yet welcome at the same time. These are some very special people. Mark and Gabby are two of them.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
18. It needs to be bigger than that!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:08 PM
Apr 2020

Build the biggest lead possible, because you KNOW they are going to cheat in every way possible.

I don't know anything about Kelly, but I'm hoping have a D after his name means he is in the progressive lane. I seriously doubt it, as his wife was a very right leaning democrat from what I remember.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
33. Mark is fairly middle-of-the-road with a leftward bent
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 06:55 AM
Apr 2020

Gabby was anything but "rightward-leaning." In fact, she got plenty of flak from the local Republicans. They even smashed the glass of her Tucson office when she voted for the ACA. Gabby especially was a wonderfully outgoing, open person before she was shot. She's still the same person inside, but that is now seriously curtailed due to her condition. Had it not been for that, she would be the one running for this Senate seat, and she would have it locked down tight by now. But Mark is no Joe Manchin, far from it. He is no Bernie Sanders, either, of course, but Sanders would never be elected to the Senate from Arizona anyway. Mark is an astronaut. He is used to exploring the near-impossible while sticking to the possible. If you get a chance, talk to him some time, and find out for yourself.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
45. I appreciate your response...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:08 PM
Apr 2020

I am going from memory of what I believed I read some time back, but I'm also finding my memory isn't infallible. I could be totally wrong, but I had the impression Gabby was pretty right leaning. I'm glad to hear she voted for the ACA.

Regardless, NOBODY deserved what happened to her. Another reich wing coward jumps out of the closet and pulls that cowardly crap. I know NOTHING about Mark Kelly, other than what you mentioned about him being an astronaut. A "Joe Manchin" is what scares me. I'll take anyone with a "D" after their name at this point. We NEED the Senate on our side. We NEED to build the majority in the House, and without a doubt, we NEED THE WHITE HOUSE.

My permanent address is Vancouver, Washington. We have the mealy mouse jamie herrera beutler as our a rep...a GOPutin rubber stamp, and nothing more. I can't believe she keeps winning, but maybe my district is more red than I thought. I'm hoping she is one that gets booted this November. I have ALWAYS voted against her, but we haven't had strong candidates until the last election, and I thought sure she was going to lose to her then....but she didn't.

In any case, thanks for your response. Too often responses with opposing views or corrections of information are inflamatory and insulting. Yours was anything but. Much appreciated!!

DFW

(54,370 posts)
46. No sweat
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:23 PM
Apr 2020

It's easier, of course, when I know the parties mentioned personally.

I, my wife, Mark, Gabby and several others rang in the New Year together on Jan.1, 2011. Then I had some work in New York, and visited with my elder daughter and my sister, who live there (my sister out on western NJ). Gabby and I tentatively made plans to have dinner in Washington two weeks later. The next Saturday, I flew down to Dallas on a morning flight. When I got to Dallas, I grabbed a taxi, and booted up the laptop to see what was new in the world, and saw that Gabby had been shot. I couldn't believe it, so I tried to verify it through the friends with whom we had been together a week before. When they confirmed it, I just went into a foul mood for a while, which I rarely do.

I don't have any photos of me and Gabby before she was shot, because it was "I see her all the time, what's the rush?"
"You never know what you've got til it's gone."

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
23. More info here ...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:15 PM
Apr 2020
Kelly expands lead over McSally in Arizona

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213289650#op Wed Apr 15, 2020, 08:21 AM


Retired astronaut Mark Kelly leads Sen. Martha McSally (R) by 9 points in Arizona, one of the states at the heart of the battle for control of the Senate in 2020. A new Arizona Public Opinion Pulse survey conducted by the Phoenix-based nonpartisan polling firm OH Predictive Insights shows Kelly leading McSally by a 51 percent to 42 percent margin.

Kelly, a first-time candidate and the husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), leads McSally by 10 points in Maricopa County, which accounts for the vast majority of Arizona's vote. Only one candidate in recent history, former Superintendent of Public Instruction Diane Douglas (R) in 2015, has won statewide election in Arizona without carrying Maricopa County.

Kelly also leads by a huge margin among independent voters, taking two-thirds among those who side with neither Democrats nor Republicans. McSally, who lost a close race for Arizona's other U.S. Senate seat in 2018 before being appointed to fill two years of the late Sen. John McCain's (R) seat, takes just under a quarter of independent voters.

The same poll found former Vice President Joe Biden leading President Trump among Arizona voters by a 52 percent to 43 percent margin. Biden is hoping to become the first Democratic presidential candidate since Bill Clinton to win Arizona's electoral votes.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492830-kelly-expands-lead-over-mcsally-in-arizona

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
25. Spent January and February in AZ
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:42 PM
Apr 2020

Love that desert! Mark Kelly is popular.. He'll take AZ and so will Biden.

It's good to see the tribes getting involved in AZ politics.. I hope they come through this pandemic in one piece.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
34. The tribes have good reason to get involved this time
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 06:57 AM
Apr 2020

In Mark, they have a chance to have a Senator in Washington who actually considers them to be a part of his constituency.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
42. So true. In NM they played a big part in electing a Democratic governor in 20018
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:07 AM
Apr 2020

We were in NM the first two weeks of March.. Governor Grisham was doing daily press conferences. On the 13th she closed all state parks. We were camping at Elephant Butte and had to skedaddle. Her focus has been on the impact of the virus on Native Americans, who, like most Americans in poverty will bear the brunt of Trump's stupidity.

Qutzupalotl

(14,307 posts)
31. Biden is up in AZ too. Let's flip it blue!
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 12:57 AM
Apr 2020

That’s what happens when you make your state a magnet for cheap labor. The population won’t vote for oligarchs.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
38. Have a couple of t-shirts, hat, buttons...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:23 AM
Apr 2020

...bumpersticker. All In!

Arizona needs a change from the tea baggers and tRumpers* that have infected our State for far too long.

Celerity

(43,340 posts)
41. AZ has had some interesting characters for Senators
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 09:26 AM
Apr 2020
Henry F. Ashurst

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_F._Ashurst

United States Senator
from Arizona (Democratic Party)
In office
March 27, 1912 – January 3, 1941
Preceded by Seat established




Henry Fountain Ashurst (September 13, 1874 – May 31, 1962) was an American Democratic politician and one of the first two Senators from Arizona. Largely self-educated, he served as a district attorney and member of the Arizona Territorial legislature before fulfilling his childhood ambition of joining the United States Senate. During his time in the Senate, Ashurst was chairman of the Committee on Indian Affairs and the Judiciary Committee.

Called "the longest U.S. theatrical engagement on record" by Time, Ashurst's political career was noted for a self-contradictory voting record, the use of a sesquipedalian vocabulary, and for a love of public speaking that earned him a reputation as one of the Senate's greatest orators. Among the sobriquets assigned to him were "the Dean of Inconsistency", "Five-Syllable Henry", and the "Silver-Tongued Sunbeam of the Painted Desert".




Ashurst had an affection for oration, as expressed by his statement, "I simply love speaking – just as one may like maple syrup, Beethoven, Verdi, or Longfellow, Kipling, or Shakespeare – one hardly knows why." This combined with his courtly manners and impeccable attire earned Ashurst a reputation as the Chesterfield of the Senate. The New York Times said "Sheer eloquence is best personified in the present Senate by Ashurst of Arizona – the debonair, balm-tongued chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Without losing one whit of his eloquence, or missing or misquoting a classical phrase, Ashurst can run the range from buffoonery to some of the most challenging remarks heard in Congress."

Ashurst's loquacious nature developed at an early age. After obtaining copies of several speeches by Senator Roscoe Conkling, a prominent 19th-century orator, Ashurst developed his speaking range and ability by thundering the words of other to the plants and rocks of the surrounding countryside. He also read a wide variety of classical and literary sources in an effort to learn as much quotable material as possible. As a result of these early efforts, by the time Ashurst joined Congress he had a well-developed speaker's voice and a wide collection of memorized quotations in both English and Latin. To this was added an interest in etymology that aided his vast vocabulary.

Ashurst's most celebrated address came on June 15, 1935, when on the Senate floor he chastised Huey Long with a harangue which Time called "one of the most devastating speeches the chamber ever heard." Other notable speeches by Ashurst dealt with Hugo Black's nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1937, a proposed tariff on imported copper in 1932, and U.S. entry into World War I in 1917. Senator Barry Goldwater was so fond of Ashurst's speeches that he compiled fourteen into the book Speeches of Henry Fountain Ashurst of Arizona. Ashurst responded to the book with "But, Barry, I made over 5,000 of them."



"Dean of Inconsistency"

Through his legislative career, Ashurst maintained a need to be inconsistent in his political actions. He was also noted for an eccentric and flexible record on a variety of issues. Ashurst's pride in his variable record was such that he appointed himself "Dean of Inconsistency" and awarded Degrees of Inconsistency to other Senators who displayed irregular voting patterns. For his critics, he usually kept a supply of tracts on his person explaining the virtue and necessity of being inconsistent and awarded these to his detractors when he was criticized for his incongruous nature.

An example of Ashurst's inconsistency is his behavior regarding the Judiciary Reorganization Bill of 1937. During the 1936 presidential election Ashurst denounced rumors that Franklin D. Roosevelt planned to reorganize the Supreme Court by "whittling, chiseling, indirection, circumlocution, periphrasis, and house-that-Jack-built tactics." He furthermore labeled the rumored plan to pack the court with six new justices "a prelude to tyranny". Upon Roosevelt's introduction of the plan, Ashurst became the legislation's sponsor and asserted "I'm for it, it's a step in the right direction. It will be enacted into law immediately." After the bill's introduction, Ashurst then delayed hearings in the Judiciary Committee, saying "No haste, no hurry, no waste, no worry – that is the motto of this committee."

As a result of his delaying efforts, the bill was held in committee for 165 days, and opponents of the bill credited Ashurst as instrumental in its defeat. Upon receiving a constituent's congratulatory message for his stand on the bill, Ashurst replied "Dear Madame: Which stand?"

Other examples of Ashurst switching positions include:

Advocacy of Prohibition, followed by a vote to allow 3.2% beer.

Voting both for and against the 18th (Prohibition) Amendment.

His four votes on veteran's bonuses, two for and two against, which generated the comment "What of it? At least I was fifty per cent right, which is a pretty good record for a politician."

Even his speaking skills could contribute to his inconsistency, as was the case on January 21, 1914. Ashurst gave a three-hour speech in support of the Nineteenth Amendment (for women's suffrage), which exhausted the time available to vote on it, and delayed its passage.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
37. McSally*: SELECTED never Elected.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:22 AM
Apr 2020

Arizona can do so much better than #ToxicTrumpHandmaiden McSally*

#MarkKelly4AZ

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