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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:09 PM Dec 2011

On the Media...

Well OWS should have woken most of us as to how truly CONSERVATIVE the media is. Tea Party shows up with more porta potties than protesters, and even more media...they are there. In fact, it is a very positive coverage.

OWS is uggly and dirty and using the wrong tactics and have no support...never mind they have changed the conversation in radical ways. There is more, if these guys and gals were doing this in Arabic or Farsi they'd be heroes.

So if this does not break this in, pretty much nothing will.

But from now on, I do not watch MSM. That's not the right use of language. When I turn on msnbc for example, I am watching either conservative or elite media. Either is correct. MSM is their frame...no, it's not mainstream, it is conservative and concerned for elite values. In-fact, salaries for talking heads are also elite and conservative.

I invite you to start thinking about these issues beyond the surface, oh and I include NPR in this.

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Hardrada

(10,918 posts)
1. I never listen to NPR. Tuned out since I couldn't stand Cokie or Maria Liason (or whatever her name
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:38 PM
Dec 2011
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. I mentioned them
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:41 PM
Dec 2011

Since most people think they are liberal...and all that. Information wise, slightly better, but they are as conservative as the rest of the elite media.

MedleyMisty

(3,028 posts)
19. I stopped listening to NPR
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:21 PM
Dec 2011

the day I heard a host of a show come right out and say that you didn't want to educate the plebes too much.

The guests were people who were trying to bring back education in the arts, and the host actually said something like "Oh, but of course you don't want to educate them too much." Not a direct quote, because it was years ago, but close enough.

The Genealogist

(4,739 posts)
5. I turned off all but a few select programs on NPR in 2004
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:57 PM
Dec 2011

One too many "crap on Kerry" pieces, one too many "cheerleading for Shrub" pieces.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
6. Cokie. I still chortle when I hear that name.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:04 PM
Dec 2011

It sounds like the 8th Dwarf who couldn't be there.

It sounds like the Muppet they "don't want you to know about."

spanone

(141,648 posts)
3. our media is infected by profits and bias....
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:44 PM
Dec 2011

how long can a democracy last when citizens get tainted news?

we shall see.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. That is why we might be on cusp of something
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:52 PM
Dec 2011

Glenny calling for death of people is one of those dangerous moments. See Rwanda.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
7. Oh dear, another cusp...
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:08 PM
Dec 2011

they are all over the place, like tribbles.



nice soundtrack to that one.

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certainot

(9,090 posts)
10. wall street media starts at the local RW radio station- that's where the heavy lifting is done
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:31 PM
Dec 2011

and as long as the left ignores that fact and there is no effective organized opposition to it they can continue to decide what is and what isn't acceptable in US media and politics.

the RW 1% radio monopoly will take a big hit merely if the left begins shaming the many universities that broadcast sports on those stations and endorse its coordinated repetition fed from the think tanks. the association with limbaugh alone, for the hate and racism and sexism and partisan lying, and the global warming denial especially, when held up against the mission statements of those universities should be a good case for demanding they break those contracts ASAP. the local advertisers will follow and they will be forced onto RW welfare, go broke, or have to balance their programming.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. That's part of it.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:49 PM
Dec 2011

But in reality the "left" whatever passes for it, will need to build alternate media. First tentative step are underway. that actually is what the hard right did after Goldwater, among many other things.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
13. global warming won't wait for a passive approach to beating a dominating media monopoly
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:04 PM
Dec 2011

building an alternative media is a given.

leaving the right's best weapon in place to continue the same media domination of the last 20 years is not a good idea.

the 'right's' samson hair is talk radio and for students of universities that broadcast sports on limbaugh stations to continue to allow that endorsement without complaint on a national level in the time of OWS is an indication that they will win enough to continue this charade where 1% dominates a 'democracy'.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. Oh I agree
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 12:26 AM
Dec 2011

And I suspect technology allows this to go faster. Why we got laws to prevent this.

When 50k tuned in to live stream at 00:00 PST that matters...and it is a huge audience. It took the right almost two generations. This is moving very fast actually.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. alas none of them is elite conservative, corporate controlled, media
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:19 PM
Dec 2011

and add Current and Countdown to your list... which is the closest in the alternate media to Corporate elite media



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