Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:03 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

The King just said he's going to dissolve parliament.

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I’ll go first. Can he do it?

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The King just said he's going to dissolve parliament. (Original post)	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	OP
WTF?	gopiscrap	Apr 2020	#1
I smell Barr.	JohnnyLib2	Apr 2020	#2
Me too. n/t	rzemanfl	Apr 2020	#5
Please elaborate.	milestogo	Apr 2020	#7
He wants to adjourn Congress so he can make recess appointments.	Solomon	Apr 2020	#18
Oh FFS.	milestogo	Apr 2020	#27
+1	crickets	Apr 2020	#35
CRAZY!!!	Mossfern	Apr 2020	#3
This message was self-deleted by its author	gopiscrap	Apr 2020	#4
? n/t	rzemanfl	Apr 2020	#6
oops wrong thread, I will self delete	gopiscrap	Apr 2020	#12
K.	rzemanfl	Apr 2020	#15
Yeah, I'd like to know what he meant by that, too?	Cha	Apr 2020	#17
I was trying to answer a different thread but messed up	gopiscrap	Apr 2020	#23
Oh dear.. I've done that. Thanks for replying.	Cha	Apr 2020	#48
What did he say	Danmel	Apr 2020	#8
He said he was going to adjourn the house and senate by executive order	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#14
Thanks for the clarification! Yeah can the wannabe dictator	Cha	Apr 2020	#28
Apparently he has the power to adjourn according to another poster.	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#31
Yeah, I read that after I posted..	Cha	Apr 2020	#50
No he can't.	dixiegrrrrl	Apr 2020	#64
Any constitutional scholars here?	Proud Liberal Dem	Apr 2020	#46
I'd like to see that argument because I don't think he can.	2naSalit	Apr 2020	#58
What?	SheltieLover	Apr 2020	#9
Wait...I just saw that you are going to financially support a conservative repuke over a Democrat...	demmiblue	Apr 2020	#10
I'm sorry you feel that way.	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#21
...	demmiblue	Apr 2020	#26
...	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#29
Was this part of today's dog and pony show?	Bettie	Apr 2020	#11
He said	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#16
No he didn't	SunsetDreams2	Apr 2020	#22
Sorry i misread your post	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#25
Wonder what Nancy Pelosi has to say about that.	wryter2000	Apr 2020	#36
That's what I don't get	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#37
The president has the power to adjourn Congress.	sop	Apr 2020	#13
adjourn	bdamomma	Apr 2020	#24
It's never been done before, so it's unclear what his powers are.	sop	Apr 2020	#30
But that's not what is at issue.	procon	Apr 2020	#38
+1	crickets	Apr 2020	#40
See link to discussions above. I have no idea what Trump can do under his power to adjourn.	sop	Apr 2020	#42
I am not sure you are correct about his popularity...	pbmus	Apr 2020	#45
Both House and Senate have agreed to reconvene on May 4.	crickets	Apr 2020	#39
Only a special session.	NutmegYankee	Apr 2020	#49
Trump: "phony proforma sessions is a dereliction of duty."	sop	Apr 2020	#54
And the house will take that, divide it up, and excuse themselves for the toilet.	NutmegYankee	Apr 2020	#61
Doesn't That Require A Desire...	ProfessorGAC	Apr 2020	#57
is he trying	bdamomma	Apr 2020	#19
Those were his words?	Cha	Apr 2020	#20
He said that he would	Mossfern	Apr 2020	#32
No, the President doesn't have that power.	earthside	Apr 2020	#41
Since when	Mossfern	Apr 2020	#43
Thanks.	Cha	Apr 2020	#51
Stop the Presses!!!	PCIntern	Apr 2020	#33
Full on...	Newest Reality	Apr 2020	#34
he's actually whining about the judicial appointments?	Takket	Apr 2020	#44
I don't get it either	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#47
Last Days Of Charles I	struggle4progress	Apr 2020	#52
I love the Alec Guinness-Richard Harris film	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#53
It's okay if he's raising funds to fight the Scots.	bluedigger	Apr 2020	#55
Exclusive footage of Trump taking control	HarlanPepper	Apr 2020	#56
You know what WE do if he pulls that shit?	2naSalit	Apr 2020	#59
Eat shit, King Fuckstick	Blue Owl	Apr 2020	#60
Hmm, I remember what happened the last couple of times	haele	Apr 2020	#62
Just saw this with graphic: Flush the Turd, November third	UncleNoel	Apr 2020	#63

Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:04 PM

gopiscrap (23,320 posts)

1. WTF?

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:05 PM

JohnnyLib2 (11,190 posts)

2. I smell Barr.

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Response to JohnnyLib2 (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:06 PM

rzemanfl (29,302 posts)

5. Me too. n/t

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Response to JohnnyLib2 (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:07 PM

milestogo (16,198 posts)

7. Please elaborate.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:10 PM

Solomon (12,229 posts)

18. He wants to adjourn Congress so he can make recess appointments.

In other words, Dictator.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:12 PM

milestogo (16,198 posts)

27. Oh FFS.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:19 PM

crickets (25,625 posts)

35. +1

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:05 PM

Mossfern (1,671 posts)

3. CRAZY!!!

Very very crazy.
Time for the 25th amendment or whatever...

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:07 PM

rzemanfl (29,302 posts)

6. ? n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:08 PM

gopiscrap (23,320 posts)

12. oops wrong thread, I will self delete

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:09 PM

rzemanfl (29,302 posts)

15. K.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:10 PM

Cha (289,579 posts)

17. Yeah, I'd like to know what he meant by that, too?

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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:11 PM

gopiscrap (23,320 posts)

23. I was trying to answer a different thread but messed up

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:33 PM

Cha (289,579 posts)

48. Oh dear.. I've done that. Thanks for replying.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:07 PM

Danmel (4,777 posts)

8. What did he say

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Response to Danmel (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:09 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

14. He said he was going to adjourn the house and senate by executive order

So he can make recess appointments

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:13 PM

Cha (289,579 posts)

28. Thanks for the clarification! Yeah can the wannabe dictator

do that?

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Response to Cha (Reply #28)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:14 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

31. Apparently he has the power to adjourn according to another poster.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:35 PM

Cha (289,579 posts)

50. Yeah, I read that after I posted..

More fresh hell.

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Response to Cha (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:33 PM

dixiegrrrrl (60,007 posts)

64. No he can't.

One of his brainless minions has misled him...again...about the Constitution.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:29 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (24,075 posts)

46. Any constitutional scholars here?

I can't imagine he can do that?

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:47 PM

2naSalit (79,241 posts)

58. I'd like to see that argument because I don't think he can.

That is why they are independent of the Executive.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:07 PM

SheltieLover (57,073 posts)

9. What?

So is he cranked on uppers today or so sedated he can hardly hold head up? Sounds like the former.

Shit show needs to end

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:08 PM

demmiblue (36,198 posts)

10. Wait...I just saw that you are going to financially support a conservative repuke over a Democrat...

in the next election in another thread.

What is your purpose here?

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:11 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

21. I'm sorry you feel that way.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:12 PM

demmiblue (36,198 posts)

26. ...

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #26)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:13 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

29. ...

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:08 PM

Bettie (15,293 posts)

11. Was this part of today's dog and pony show?

I don't watch, so what did he say?

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Response to Bettie (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:09 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

16. He said

he was going to adjourn the house and senate by executive order So he can make recess appointments

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:11 PM

SunsetDreams2 (268 posts)

22. No he didn't

Did he really?

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Response to SunsetDreams2 (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:12 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

25. Sorry i misread your post

Yes, he said he will move to adjourn the house and senate so he can do recess appointments. I’m guessing that’s an executive order thing but I’m sure others here know more.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #25)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:20 PM

wryter2000 (45,686 posts)

36. Wonder what Nancy Pelosi has to say about that.

I can't imagine even McTurtle will like it.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:21 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

37. That's what I don't get

The fucking GOP is in control of the senate! It’s all McTurtle’s decision!

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:08 PM

sop (8,927 posts)

13. The president has the power to adjourn Congress.

"Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 also authorizes the president to adjourn Congress if the House and Senate cannot agree on the time of adjournment; no president has ever had to exercise this administrative power."

https://www.justice.gov/file/20711/download

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Response to sop (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:11 PM

bdamomma (62,443 posts)

24. adjourn

or dissolve?

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:14 PM

sop (8,927 posts)

30. It's never been done before, so it's unclear what his powers are.

https://www.quora.com/Can-the-US-president-dissolve-Congress

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Response to sop (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:22 PM

procon (15,805 posts)

38. But that's not what is at issue.

Congress has no argument "on the time of adjournment", that are all too happy to flee DC.

Trump can try to pull a huge lie out of his ass and claim otherwise, but the court challenges would hit him immediately. The public backlash against Trump for usurping powers he is not entitled to will not make him anymore popular.

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Response to procon (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:23 PM

crickets (25,625 posts)

40. +1

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Response to procon (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:24 PM

sop (8,927 posts)

42. See link to discussions above. I have no idea what Trump can do under his power to adjourn.

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Response to procon (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:28 PM

pbmus (12,397 posts)

45. I am not sure you are correct about his popularity...

His cult would follow him off a cliff if he said go...

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Response to sop (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:23 PM

crickets (25,625 posts)

39. Both House and Senate have agreed to reconvene on May 4.

So far there's no reason for him to butt his nose in. At this point they really do need to figure out a secure way to meet and vote long distance, however, given the situation.

Also, Donny is waving a red flag in Nancy Pelosi's face. Not a wise move on his part.

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Response to sop (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:35 PM

NutmegYankee (15,933 posts)

49. Only a special session.

Technically with proforma sessions, congress is still in session.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #49)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:39 PM

sop (8,927 posts)

54. Trump: "phony proforma sessions is a dereliction of duty."

"If the House will not agree to that adjournment, I will exercise my Constitutional authority to adjourn both chambers of Congress. The current practice of leaving town while conducting phony proforma sessions is a dereliction of duty." - DT 4/15/20 WH Daily Briefing

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Response to sop (Reply #54)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 07:53 PM

NutmegYankee (15,933 posts)

61. And the house will take that, divide it up, and excuse themselves for the toilet.

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Response to sop (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:43 PM

ProfessorGAC (61,087 posts)

57. Doesn't That Require A Desire...

...by Congress to adjourn?
Who in Congress is even broaching the subject of adjournment?
Even the RWNJs in there know it's political suicide to go on break during the crisis.
Well, maybe not Turtle and Randy-boy!

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:10 PM

bdamomma (62,443 posts)

19. is he trying

to show his Putin puppet master he can dissolve Parliament too.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:11 PM

Cha (289,579 posts)

20. Those were his words?

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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:15 PM

Mossfern (1,671 posts)

32. He said that he would

adjourn Congress if his judicial appointments weren't confirmed.
Yes, he said that.

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Response to Mossfern (Reply #32)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:23 PM

earthside (6,960 posts)

41. No, the President doesn't have that power.

Article 2; Section 3; Clause 3

"...he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper;"

There isn't an issue of disagreement between the Senate and House about adjournment.

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Response to earthside (Reply #41)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:25 PM

Mossfern (1,671 posts)

43. Since when

has he paid attention to the intention of the Constitution. He has Barr in his ear.

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Response to Mossfern (Reply #32)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:36 PM

Cha (289,579 posts)

51. Thanks.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:15 PM

PCIntern (24,448 posts)

33. Stop the Presses!!!

That’ll be his next order.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:18 PM

Newest Reality (12,712 posts)

34. Full on...

Full on dictator mode from here on.

We might ask can he do this or that, but so far he has done this and that and nothing has stopped him.

He has stated that he has absolute authority and that's what his definition of the office is. We say, no you don't, that's a dictator's stance. He says, "So what?"

The impeachment was a pivotal point that failed, because that was not about being partisan as much as it was about ending a regime in progress.

We just have to play wait and see and find out what kind of opposition he will get.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:28 PM

Takket (20,349 posts)

44. he's actually whining about the judicial appointments?

First of all... why is the mdia giving him a forum to do this? if he's not talknig about the virus, he shouldn't be getting aitime for policy issues.

Second...... hasn't mcconnell seated about a billion rethug judges? how many more does he want???

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Response to Takket (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:31 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

47. I don't get it either

CNN isn’t covering it at all according to some accounts. It has nothing at all to do with the virus.

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:36 PM

struggle4progress (115,902 posts)

52. Last Days Of Charles I

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #52)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:39 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

53. I love the Alec Guinness-Richard Harris film

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:40 PM

bluedigger (17,010 posts)

55. It's okay if he's raising funds to fight the Scots.

Oh, wait, that's right out as well.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #55)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:41 PM

HarlanPepper (2,042 posts)

56. Exclusive footage of Trump taking control

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Response to HarlanPepper (Original post)

Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:51 PM

2naSalit (79,241 posts)

59. You know what WE do if he pulls that shit?

Stay the fuck home.

He can try and fuck with us but he still can do nothing about the governors' alliance and we the people.

The thing that matters most for him is the economy. If we stay home, we take it away from him. What we have to do is take care of each other, seriously. It will create unity, the hard way but we can defeat him by refusing to cooperate.

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Wed Apr 15, 2020, 07:10 PM

Blue Owl (47,455 posts)